This is why it's really important for white, cis men to be allies.
If you are a white, cis man and you are inspired by this man, please speak up. Those of us that are minorities can only push the boulder so far and we need voices that Republican (and unfortunately some Democrat) politicians will hear.
And things like this do way more than just the immediate apparent impact. Every time a white cis guy speaks out like this, it helps to break down the lie that this bigoted way of thinking is the majority.
It also (hopefully) makes them consider why they only agreed with them before they said murdering women and children was bad. At least, we can hope that some are that self-aware.
It’s not an attack on you, I say as a straight cis white guy. It’s for people that are othered to not be excluded. It’s saying that every person is uniquely themself as well. How someone identifies is their identity after all. I have friends that are gay, straight, trans, and queer. If I can do little things like acknowledging my friends for who they are, then I am helping make their lives just a little bit better in an often cold and uncaring world.
Hey man, cis doesn't mean anything besides you identify with your given gender at birth. Just like male/female are useful terms for communication, we have a term for that. In fact, cis isn't even just for that. It's just Latin meaning you're in the same side of something. For example: cisalpine, meaning on this side of the alps (the side of Italy). No reasonable person would be offended by the term. It's been used for over 100 years in this way. The only reason to be offended is if you're told to be offended.
You’ll be downvoted but people would do well to reflect on why. This is a large part of why white men didn’t vote, it’s why the “she’s for they/them he’s for you” was massively successful. I know in a just world we’d all be on the same page with this. But we’re not. You’re going to have to roll with this guy not wanting to be called cis if you want an ally and not an enemy.
No one makes enemies pointlessly better than the LGBT crowd. FFS, I want to be friends, but I feel pushed around and told I'm not...enough...whatever. I guess I don't feel accepted and being called cis is alienating to me. But god for-fucking-bid they get called anything that makes them uncomfy.
See the downvotes OP's collecting for a perfect example.
That’s sort of the funny thing. They were disapproving of him, not because they understood he was making a caricature of them, but that he was saying the quiet part out loud.
because that doesn't make any sort of sense in german; it's nonsense ;)
ETA: "waffenspiel" is the only actually german part of that. and the translation for that is accurate (weapons' game), but also kinda nonsensical, especially without proper context.
There probably a little more fire for this because the USA is directly responsible for the genocide. As a matter of fact if we did nothing the world would be a better place, and even better if we did something else.
I don’t recall the human rights abuses in North Korea being a direct result of us intervention.
Everything happens because someone somewhere did something, and sometimes it's bad, sometimes it's good. The US does have a lot of questionable involvement in other countries historically, but so does every other large country, like china, and russia. So i'm not sure how unique that is.
I mean hell, look at japanese history during the second world war.
evidently not, but then again, if there was no sin in the world, sin couldn't possibly exist could it? There would be no bad, or good, only things. But it does exist, so evidently, people must be doing it.
Seems like it must be a constant of life. Especially when you look at other species of animals. Morality and ethics is an arbitrarily defined human scope. It's nothing more, nothing less.
I was talking about the US leveling 95% of the buildings in what is now the DPRK. That put the North at a pretty big disadvantage economically, and hard economic times often lead to despots.
i mean yeah, but if we're going to root cause, it would necessarily be japan im certain. They were the ones invading china/korea at the time. The US wasn't even involved until the end of the war.
they abuse human rights whether or not people give them money.
This has been demonstrated since the beginning of north korea. Giving them western money might prevent them from spending western money on shit like nukes. But they will still abuse human rights.
That dude is a bad ass
He had 'em in the first half
This is why it's really important for white, cis men to be allies.
If you are a white, cis man and you are inspired by this man, please speak up. Those of us that are minorities can only push the boulder so far and we need voices that Republican (and unfortunately some Democrat) politicians will hear.
And things like this do way more than just the immediate apparent impact. Every time a white cis guy speaks out like this, it helps to break down the lie that this bigoted way of thinking is the majority.
It also (hopefully) makes them consider why they only agreed with them before they said murdering women and children was bad. At least, we can hope that some are that self-aware.
Not if you call me 'cis'.
if you aren't cis then there's nothing to worry about
if you are, there's also nothing to worry about
Just call me a normal normal normal normal because I'm tired of being called a straight cis white man.
It’s not an attack on you, I say as a straight cis white guy. It’s for people that are othered to not be excluded. It’s saying that every person is uniquely themself as well. How someone identifies is their identity after all. I have friends that are gay, straight, trans, and queer. If I can do little things like acknowledging my friends for who they are, then I am helping make their lives just a little bit better in an often cold and uncaring world.
That was sarcasm.
It’s harder to tell when people in this very chain are saying similar without any sarcasm.
Edit: Sorry, missed the sarcasm
Hey man, cis doesn't mean anything besides you identify with your given gender at birth. Just like male/female are useful terms for communication, we have a term for that. In fact, cis isn't even just for that. It's just Latin meaning you're in the same side of something. For example: cisalpine, meaning on this side of the alps (the side of Italy). No reasonable person would be offended by the term. It's been used for over 100 years in this way. The only reason to be offended is if you're told to be offended.
-sincerely: a cis-gendered man
How do you identify? What should we call you?
How I identify isn't anyone's business.
That word, like 'moist', I find offensive.
Confirm whether I'm allowed to dislike things.
Oh, ok. Like how I hate the word female. But I'm still a female.
Copy that.
People can react to your post however they want but you can also dislike whatever you want /shrug
It’s offensive because phonetically it’s similar if not identical to sis.
Short for sister Short for sissy, a transgender person
Being called a man, and being a man, in this cozy patriarchy it is incredibly bizarre to give that up.
I’m not justifying the I’m not doing it if you call me cis dude, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the phonetics have something to do with it.
Turns me off as well, can't say why, but I can accept it.
It’s offensive because phonetically it’s similar if not identical to sis.
Short for sister Short for sissy, a transgender person
Being called a man, and being a man, in this cozy patriarchy it is incredibly bizarre to give that up.
I’m not justifying the I’m not doing it if you call me cis dude, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the phonetics have something to do with it.
You’ll be downvoted but people would do well to reflect on why. This is a large part of why white men didn’t vote, it’s why the “she’s for they/them he’s for you” was massively successful. I know in a just world we’d all be on the same page with this. But we’re not. You’re going to have to roll with this guy not wanting to be called cis if you want an ally and not an enemy.
No one makes enemies pointlessly better than the LGBT crowd. FFS, I want to be friends, but I feel pushed around and told I'm not...enough...whatever. I guess I don't feel accepted and being called cis is alienating to me. But god for-fucking-bid they get called anything that makes them uncomfy.
See the downvotes OP's collecting for a perfect example.
cis (as the prefix in cisgender) is literally just the Latin term for "on this side of", opposite of trans = "on the other side of".
It's the exact same thing as heterosexual & homosexual, both from Greek, standing for hetero (from heteros) = different, and homo (from homos) = same.
Is the term "straight" also not ok, just gay people and "normal" people? And same for homosexual and "normal" people, and trans and "normal" people?
Mad Respect for this man.
The execution was 😙👌
I feel like a good portion of the audience was still confused at the end. And you know exactly which portion
It's like when you use your talking-to-pets voice to tell your dog he's an idiot
The portion that doesn't care about children with skin that isn't white.
That’s sort of the funny thing. They were disapproving of him, not because they understood he was making a caricature of them, but that he was saying the quiet part out loud.
This guy's absolute masterclass rhetoric trolling be like:
Wtf is that from? Is that Resident Alien?
From this show pretty sure. It's very hit and miss on the sketches for me, but the hits are worth sitting through the misses, goddamn hilarious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Think_You_Should_Leave_with_Tim_Robinson
Has this ever happened to you!
this guy fucking gets it
Want to steal this man's look and do the same shit
“How dare you say out loud the exact thing that I’m thinking quietly.”
Is there a name for the trope where someone gets upset so they stop listening, even if you're right?
Republican.
I think Conservative might be a better word for this
Ah, I agree.
Most humans, tbh.
There's probably a German word for it
Gersprekenstufflewaffenspiel
Translate has failed us.
because that doesn't make any sort of sense in german; it's nonsense ;)
ETA: "waffenspiel" is the only actually german part of that. and the translation for that is accurate (weapons' game), but also kinda nonsensical, especially without proper context.
the rest is just straight up not a word...
Narcissism.
Masterful trolling here lmfao
Fetch
Stop trying to make fetch happen, it's never gonna happen.
Don't you disrespectful my boy Ruff Ruffman!
so like, should we do something about north korea? They have a lot of human rights abuses?
Just trying to be complete here, since the meme here is that they're brown people we don't have to care about them.
yes, you can start by not funding north korea. oh look, mission accomplished! now do Israel, you disingenuous ass.
funding them would only cause more human rights abuse though wouldn't it?
That's the whole argument that north korea uses. Their population will starve and famine if nobody gives them aid money.
is this AI, what the hell are you even arguing right now
u wish
I'll take that as a yes
There probably a little more fire for this because the USA is directly responsible for the genocide. As a matter of fact if we did nothing the world would be a better place, and even better if we did something else.
I don’t recall the human rights abuses in North Korea being a direct result of us intervention.
that's pretty much a history of the world though.
Everything happens because someone somewhere did something, and sometimes it's bad, sometimes it's good. The US does have a lot of questionable involvement in other countries historically, but so does every other large country, like china, and russia. So i'm not sure how unique that is.
I mean hell, look at japanese history during the second world war.
Just because others do something evil, it does not absolve you of your sins.
evidently not, but then again, if there was no sin in the world, sin couldn't possibly exist could it? There would be no bad, or good, only things. But it does exist, so evidently, people must be doing it.
Seems like it must be a constant of life. Especially when you look at other species of animals. Morality and ethics is an arbitrarily defined human scope. It's nothing more, nothing less.
I wouldn't say that the US had nothing to do with it, though. The Korean Civil War was brutal for the south, but it was even more so for the north.
the US was involved but i think strictly in support of the south korean side?
From what i can remember it was basically japan that ended up putting korea into the position where was to form north korea.
I was talking about the US leveling 95% of the buildings in what is now the DPRK. That put the North at a pretty big disadvantage economically, and hard economic times often lead to despots.
this would've been due to the japanese invasion though right?
Even then, still doesnt excuse human rights violations, to the level that NK does.
I never said it excused them, but it does to some degree explain them.
i mean yeah, but if we're going to root cause, it would necessarily be japan im certain. They were the ones invading china/korea at the time. The US wasn't even involved until the end of the war.
Probably should stop providing them the means to abuse human rights
they abuse human rights whether or not people give them money.
This has been demonstrated since the beginning of north korea. Giving them western money might prevent them from spending western money on shit like nukes. But they will still abuse human rights.
Yes and one of America's main things we're protesting against wrt Israel is that we're funding their crimes against humanity