Hey, do americans just want to take a break from normal politics for a bit and focus all our efforts solely on the wild boar problem?
Most American thing I can think of.
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I say we cede the country to the pigs. They might do a better job.
I for one welcome our new hog overlords
Those are ones in captivity, for food.
Pig walking into a full congress, "these animals are disgusting"
"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which,"
Some animals are more equal than others!
Too late!
If you've read Orwell, then you know we have.
Hogwash! Capitalist pigs will end us. I for one advocate for roo committees.
I’d rather do that than arm people with assault rifles so they can live in remote rural areas where herds of feral pigs are an issue. Yes this is an actual argument people make in favor of keeping assault rifles legal. “What if I need to stop a stampede of 80 feral hogs? This is a weekly occurrence on my property.”
Frankly, if feral hogs have you running scared, it’s not your property, it’s theirs.
Would you like to be a moderate? I'll propose giving the hogs the assault rifles and you'll instantly become a moderate.
humans have assault rifles <--- no one has assault rifles ---> hogs have assault rifles
Edit: would arming both humans and hogs also be a good compromise?
“Legit question for rural Americans – How do I kill the 30-50 feral hogs that run into my yard within 3-5 mins while my small kids play?"
Give the kids guns too.
That was intended to sound sarcastic, but most kids I knew in rural America have been around guns since they were big enough to carry them. I personally started shooting a .22 when I was in kindergarten and was just hardly big enough to shoot a 30-06 when I was about 10 or so. (I am very much the liberal gun owner type, btw.)
While I can't change the past, I do find myself questioning the logic of my experience at times. For yet another direction shift, my girls are both trained in gun safety, but that started years before I let them even touch a gun.
I’ve been shooting since I was about 5 too.
I haven’t in many years, but I think I was 10 or 11 when my dad got me a 20 gauge.
A 14yo was the first to fire at Marshalls at Ruby Ridge.
Yeah. I grew up around guns. I was shooting 22s early like you, had a compact shotgun by the age of 10, etc.
We didn't live in the country, so while we had guns in the house, we did NOT have ammunition in the house until I was 15 or so, just in case me or my sister ever decided to play with a gun. We bought ammo on the way to the range or the hunt, and anything we didn't shoot was given to a family member.
Shit, reply all lives on.
I miss that show. PJ is good on Search Engine, but I miss Alex. Both of them.
Alex has a new show as well! Hyperfixed
Omg thank you! I like PJ but I still can't forgive him completely
Forgive him for what? I recall there was drama around this show but I legit couldn’t understand what actually happened.
Woke killed the show. It's the only casualty of woke that I really can't process.
Wasn’t it a sexual harassment thing?
Edit: I guess I don’t know the story at all. I thought I remembered one of the guys being involved in a sexual harassment suit. It appears I was mistaken.
I thought it was a discrimination thing
And the anti-union shit.
Put the kids in a fenced garden
You actually have to lure the hogs into a pen with multiple exits, drop the gates, and gun them down before they can manage an escape. You also should be very vigilant and listen well for any nearby hogs, the adult females tend to be smarter and more cautious but they're the targets you NEED to kill.
Failure to catch all of the hogs will allow the others to learn and adapt to the traps, and failure to kill the females will result in their population continuing to grow.
Other effective methods are clap traps and spike pits but those don't work well when you have children or other animals. There is also the M44 cyanide pill shooting trap made for Coyotes but idk if it works on Hogs.
I went hog hunting a few times back in my redneck days. There’s virtually no regulations and we had no idea what to do. Me and my friends went out with a full arsenal. I had a 9mm, SKS, and a 30-06.
I used every gun. It was crazy.
A 9mm would just piss them off.
Possibly not even that. A mere irritation.
It’s still gonna fuck you up- they’re just ornery like that.
Oh, ornery! Hah! Imagine someone thinking you said horny. Totally not me.
Why the hell wasn't this an answer to my question a while back about RPG quests in real life? I can kill wild pigs. They're only level 1 so it should be easy to grind.
These aren't. Most animals that you get to hunt in the US will run away if you take a shot and miss. Hogs just might decide to turn around and fucking disembowel you.
Ever play as a level 1 adventurer in a tabletop game?
Getting gored by a pig is just how the game goes sometimes.
I'm not seeing anything said here that doesn't differ from how wild hogs in video games work.
It's not like they're big, or on fire, like in a Fromsoft game.
Just pick a warrior class that can wear mail/plate then.
Just make sure you pack a very good gun and are up a sturdy tree. Barring that get a spear with a pole as thick as your arm and a tip with a wide guard on it. The guard is important, because a boar will impale itself to get to you and there's a good chance it will succeed before expiring.
Side quest time. I mean we are getting closer to the final boss.
Considering any feral pig has a few kills under its belt and sleeps outside, it’s more likely that you’re level1 and it’s level 8 or 9.
When? Where have you made this question? Any hunting, foraging and gathering activity can be translated as an RPG quest
Cody warned us 6 years ago:
https://youtu.be/H9MTMCo8JbQ
Is it finally time for Some Boar News again? It’s been awhile.
You think you've got a problem? Ours are stealing laptops!
I can understand ruining the entire harvest crops... But not stealing the laptops! D:
Are they delicious?
I've only have wild boar jerky before and it was pretty tasty, but you gotta get the meat tested first bc they can carry some serious diseases.
Sorta fun fact from my organizmal bio teacher: the reason you never hear about pork being cooking medium rare is that we are fairly closely related to pigs and so we are susceptible to many of the diseases that can infect pigs.
Meh, no, unless you trap them. Youve got to feed them a better diet than what they get in the wild. Also, this opinion resides heavily on the fact that industrially grown, bred and genetically manipulated pigs are damn delicious.
I disagree, my grandpa used to hunt wild boars and I have eaten them a couple times. They're delicious, good meat.
Gotta cook them right. Sounds like your grandpa knew how to cook them.
You should go hunt a bunch too! Have a bbq party and invite a bunch of poeple to get them with the idea there are delicious 400 pound hogs running wild in your backyard causing massive crop damage. Your granpa would love that
Hogs are big business here in Texas, where you can pay a couple thousand bucks to shoot them with a machine gun from a helicopter all day, so.. what's the problem? :P
The problem is that there are not nearly enough people that hunt to even keep the population stable through hunting. The fact that hog hunting has become a business is the reason that real solutions to wiping out feral populations aren't making headway.
Oh I know, I was being sarcastic, doing the typical redneck 'lol we shootin' 'em fer fun, what's the problem?!' type thing.
When I moved out of Texas in 2016, some friends told me there was a $5 bounty for hog tails from the state. So, you could do it for more than fun; less than a dollar a round for .308, then 5 dollars per tail... that's a decent profit.
Assuming you're a good shot and can hit a moving target. More than a couple-three rounds per hog and you start getting into marginal territory.
Man, I wish good .308 ammo was only $1/round... Even if I'm loading it myself, good 6.5CM ammo (defined as sub-MOA performance) costs about $1/ea. with Hornady 147gr ELD-M bullets, and that's only if I ignore how much I've sunk into a press and case prep.
Yeah, this was before the industry decided on their panic price increaes. It's weird how post panic prices never corrected. Going shooting is almost painful now on the wallet.
A lot of the prices have corrected, just not all the way down to pre-pandemic level. I remember that primers were flat-out unavailable for a long time, then they were breaking $.10/ea for really cheap SPPs. 9mm ammo was >50cpr for a while, too. Both are down now, but not down to the $.03 for primers, or 20cpr for 9mm. Some of it is inflation in general. Some of it is that there are more people buying guns and ammo now, and there's a pretty sharp lag between demand and production, since no one wants to build new factories for temporary demand spikes; increased demand is driving up prices. Also, fun fact, a lot of companies that make AR-15s are getting very close to insolvency right now. Each person only needs so many AR-15 variants, and the market is super-saturated. That's less of an issue with ammo, since it's a consumable, but it still worries the companies that would be building new plants.
Yeah, I still wish ammo was a lot cheaper, but it is what it is. Instead of high-volume shooting, it means more time dry-firing.
This right here. I fell down the "wild boar problem" rabbit hole a couple years ago. I was curious about what controls have been tried and what could be done to bring things back into balance. The statistic I read said that 75000 boars must be killed per year in Texas just to keep their numbers stable there. Holy hell. That's a lot of dangerous game hunting.
If I was going to guess, the actual numbers killed are far, far lower than that. Especially since there are a lot of very large private hunting preserves that intentionally try to keep their feral pig population high so that they can attract paying hunters.
That's my favorite kind of conservation.
Bring back predators...the good kind. Wolves have a purpose.
Wild hogs would destroy a wolf. These creatures are no joke.
That's probably why wolves prefer to live in packs. Just to be more evenly matched.
Wild hogs live in "packs" ("sounders", actually. Lulz.) as well. On all fronts, the hogs should win. Some of the bigger hogs could easily outweigh a wolf 5:1.
These creatures are what nightmares are made of and I wish I could say I was joking or being sarcastic.
Could a pack of wolves separate a hog from its pack and kill it? Sure. Not all hogs are hell-spawn. Regardless, we are also talking about mother nature's true version of Medusa.
Lulz, I think I just found a collective noun for Republicans
Wild boars are an invasive species, they don't have natural predators.
Good point... Panther? Mountain lion?
Where are they not invasive?
Wolves eat what ever is easiest to kill like endagered species that cant get away.
They are the same picture
But how will Americans justify their private arsenals if they don't have 30-50 feral hogs running into their yards while their small kids play?
"This is merica it's mah glawd given ripe!
Cute piggy friends 🥰🐷🐖🐖🐖🐖
Bruh they'll fuck you up. They're vicious.
Don't be an ass to wildlife and wildlife will respect you.
This is not true. There are squirrels who relentlessly mock me and I have done nothing to deserve it.
Delicious*
Die 🤗
(Edit) Apologies, this was needlessly abrupt. I will amend my statement to:
I wish the same fate on you that you wish on other sentient beings.
About the only thing they are good for is shooting.
How's their aim?
🥰🥰🥰 friends
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_boar
That is not what we have here.
We have these
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_pig
Again, Japanese boars are much much smaller than the boar we have here. Think game of thrones dangerous. They get to 400-600lbs and they're practically solid muscle and have pretty much no natural predators, the ones in Japan are tiny compared to the ones here in the usa and parts of South America.
"Without provocation"? We've fucked wildlife over so much they probably think they're defending themselves.
I wouldn't feed them. Same as alligators or bears. Feeding them is how you get them killed.
Just watch from a very far distance until they leave. Have respect.
"Each state is lined with an impenetrable wall of swine. We are trapped."
Probably not the same animals that need to be controlled, but boar is delicious!
Only the babies. The testosterone makes them nasty af as they get older.
Wild boar problem? Baby, humans are the problem.
Pigs run this country.
Just launch all the nukes and make them all detonate to equally cover the entire continental US with fire and radiation .... BOOM! ... no more wild pigs!
I've got some really bad news for you...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/world/asia/radioactive-boars-in-fukushima-thwart-residents-plans-to-return-home.html
I admire your creativity, I seriously doubt that would help. You would only get really pissed off mutant hogs after the dust cleared.
How rad would it be if they had unicorn horns like a narwhal
I’m all for some barbecue
Two words: Helicopter Chaingun
We're having a problem with deer in ireland.
Wait till the chronic wasting disease shows up. Until then enjoy the venison.
Funnily enough, I tried some venison the other day and it tasted awful.
Not sure how you had it but it's not very good in steak form. Much better in a stew or made into jerky or sausage.
It was a sausage.
Step 1 rank all of your problems.
step 2, all problems above rank 99th, ain't one.
Mmm free bacon 🥓
The parties in control are not the type to regulate or fund programs, so no, not really.
Progressives should support a boar hunting program, along with offering assistance for moving, dismantling, and inspecting game. People who learn how to hunt, know how to shoot. That might be a very valuable skill in the times ahead.
We kill two boars with one bullet.
Is "wild boar" a euphemism for MAGA cultists and politicians?
If I’m correct, this is a reference from Some More News. I think you could say it’s a metaphor for any issue that affects the populace. For example, if wild boars killing people happened as frequently as people shooting up schools, we would do something about the boars.
Dude, come on. This is a real problem we're facing quit with the maga bs.
Do you actually believe that a fascist wannabe dictator in the White House, an abjectly corrupt activist Supreme Court, and bought a sold oligarchs as the heads of departments are more of a problem than wild boar? Seriously?
Listen dude, I've made a least two showerthought posts about cheese pizza Lunchables. You're not talking with joe biden.
Are you sure you're not Joe Biden?
... no...
Yea.... please don't get the two mixed up and spread harmful info online. The wild boars here are dangerous, if you are out walking in the woods and stumble upon one, they won't always run. They will try and hurt you and the tusk on these guys are dangerously sharp and can punch through skin like it's butter.
On top of the danger part. They're also super destructive to the environment, and we're not talking just about crop loss either.
They won't try to hurt you if you keep distance. Have respect for wildlife
Yea...yea they will. You're comment is the equivalent of telling people in Australia not to worry about spiders. They are dangerous animals here in the USA and will charge you even if you're keeping your distance.
It's fairly easy to keep them in check though.
It's really not, boars can breed multiple times per year, have litters between 2 and 12, and can breed as early as 6 months old.
It takes lots of effort to keep a population stable, actually eliminating them is very difficult.
In Hungary hunters love them. You get money for every boar shot and they make an okay stew.
Wild boars tear up large swaths of forest floor in search of food. They wipe out native tubers and disrupt the carbon cycle, ultimately degrading the land into scrub.
They are also predators, they can weigh over half a ton, and they are violent when threatened.
They kill people and pets here in the US
There have only been like 5 human wild boar deaths in the US in the past 200 years: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/26/us/texas-woman-killed-feral-hogs.html
the problem isnt the boar itself but the damage an outside threat poses to a delicate ecosystem
i think controlling domestic pets is also an issue and im a huge advocate for indoor only, but boars will not integrate in forests here the same way they would in japan. im not an advocate for killing nor do i think it would work, but TNR efforts may help the same way it does with stray cat populations
Wildlife not being extinguished by humans is a good thing.
Feral pigs are an invasive species that wreak havoc here
You should see the damage a single pig can do. I have. And I like pigs, have a pet pot belly.
They are the only animals I will shoot on sight, no questions asked. And I wouldn't shoot a squirrel.
Pigs aren't trying to eat you. I would shoot a polar bear on sight. They are one of few animals that will intentionally hunt humans for food.