The police is always there to protect the status quo. And if the status quo means people and the world are being bled dry by a few psychopaths, then the police are a tool of these oppressors.
The problem is not they’re protecting a Tesla showroom. They should stop any and all possibilities of violence. That’s their job. The problem is that they wouldn’t show up for you or your neighborhood small business if they faced the same possibility of threat.
I also doubt that a dealership nested in an urban center is going to be targeted by arsons. They're just there to stop vandalism, something the dealership could do themselves by hiring night guards. Instead, the tax payers are paying.
I'd rather have them being useless guarding a nazi store then out amongt the public causing trouble and abusing citizens whilst utterly failing to do their jobs with any level of professionalism.
Indeed. Clearly these idiots are badly in need of some military gear. Maybe some armored vehicles. Look how ill equipped they are for the heavy burden of guarding that sidewalk.
I'm curious how destroying Tesla dealerships hurts them. They have insurance, and are reimbursed after a claim. I get it shows how upset and discontent people are with the company. Am I missing something more?
This wouldn’t be a problem if showrooms for direct to consumer car buying was illegal too.
EDIT: In case you aren’t aware (not sure if this has changed in the last decade), in a handful of states, approximately 17 (maybe less) do not allow direct to consumer dealerships. This means in states that have laws against this, the manufacturers can not operate a dealership which they sell the vehicle. So effectively Tesla must conduct their sales entirely online. Since laws very from state to state, so much as discussing pricing can be illegal. If states are gonna ban the dealerships then why not just make the showrooms illegal too?
I’m as anti-fascist as the next person, but protecting a company from vandalism isn’t as fascist as you seem to want to think it is. Vandalism is illegal. They are law enforcement. That’s how that relationship works.
Would you say the same thing if they stood in front of a business that was under threat of being vandalized by MAGA clowns because they are publicly pro-diversity? At best I’d say the argument lies in the fact that they probably don’t need that many people, but we don’t really know what the reason was to load up that many stooges to protect that particular location.
Maybe some dumbass called in a threat?
Either way… go on and downvote away. I’m fully aware this isn’t the place for nuanced discussion.
Would you say the same thing if they stood in front of a business that was under threat of being vandalized by MAGA clowns because they are publicly pro-diversity?
Show me that news article.
At best I’d say the argument lies in the fact that they probably don’t need that many people, but we don’t really know what the reason was to load up that many stooges to protect that particular location.
It’s a hypothetical. Look around. Communities like this use hypotheticals as the entire basis of their arguments seemingly ALL the time.
Show of fascist force.
By account of excessive use of persons? I’d agree. It’s wasteful. But stepping aside and allowing people to vandalize property just because it aligns with your personal belief is now how things work. This opens the gates for others to justify destroying your shit because they disagree with it.
Oh, and it doesn’t take being “Elon” to think it takes a dumbass to threaten physical damage to a person or place because they disagree with the owner’s politics-
It just takes being a mature adult that understands how nuance works.
lol! There it is! I was wondering how long it would take before one of you broke out the “you’re a Nazi because you think it’s okay for police to stop vandalism!”
I’ll go ahead and tag you as a waste of time to avoid further discussions that devolve into bullshit false-accusations.
“you’re a Nazi because you think it’s okay for police to stop vandalism!”
Obviously I was talking about Elon Musk throwing Nazi salutes and welcome Nazis onto his online platform, and obviously you were waiting for someone to bring up how Elon Musk is a Nazi, because you are fully aware Elon Musk is a Nazi.
If you decide to die on the hill protecting a Nazi, you'll be known as the guy who died on the hill protecting a Nazi.
lol….
Nothing I said was protecting a Nazi. I’m simply stating that vandalism and destruction of property is illegal- regardless of one’s beliefs.
Would I shed a tear for him if he lost this entire company to a fucking sinkhole? Nope. But I won’t applaud people violating someone’s property because they don’t agree with it.
But… YOU took what I said to mean it’s protecting a Nazi. Because using bad faith to overcome nuance in a discussion is the only way you can argue.
I guess I’m just saying it’s fascism because they always seem to protect the same side. Big business and the rich and powerful. We’re still missing the main parts of it being a dictator controlling who’s targeted, so we’re using the word hyperbolically.
American tax payers dollars being diverted to support private organizations while its social services are being gutted.
Musk is a Nazi, and the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
Yep. Only way to end fascism is to end fascists.
But a whole lot better than when alive.
yup
and far less capable of doing destructive things, as Nazis tend to do.
Yeah but they're at least on a self improvement plan.
As much as your comment is the truth. It'll get buried in the circle jerk of ACAB and the ignorance of your tax dollars at work crowd.
The police is always there to protect the status quo. And if the status quo means people and the world are being bled dry by a few psychopaths, then the police are a tool of these oppressors.
It's so nice of the police to form a barrier to keep unsuspecting people from shopping at a Nazi store
Or from returning their
EVsbombs to theEVbomb store.The function of the police is social control and protection of property.
to be fair they also do this for people who get threatened with rape or other forms of violence.
oh wait no they don't.
To serve and protect rich Nazis.
The question would be if they would deploy so many police troops to your local, small business or if this is just a benefit of being an oligarch.
I haven't seen evidence of police troops deployed like this to a small business so it's logical to conclude it's a benefit exclusive to oligarchs.
Yup. As seen in NYC.
https://files.catbox.moe/hlpqi5.mp4
Acab
There are good cops and there are old cops. There are no good, old cops.
My God that was a depressing read. Just evil triumphant
I wish someone would run them over with a truck, GTA style
Gouranga
We need a new 2D GTA game
This is actually legal in some States now
This makes no sense other than politics...
If you ignore politics, why would there ever need to be that many cops there like that?
Like why isn't 3 or 4 enough, or even 1 or 2?
A presence to deter a problem makes sense, this is like a comedy sketch.
Class traitors.
Please let this picture be in grade-school history books for this section of history.
Imagine risking your life to protect a cybertruck
That's an overkill way to promote "Don't buy a Tesla".
The problem is not they’re protecting a Tesla showroom. They should stop any and all possibilities of violence. That’s their job. The problem is that they wouldn’t show up for you or your neighborhood small business if they faced the same possibility of threat.
I also doubt that a dealership nested in an urban center is going to be targeted by arsons. They're just there to stop vandalism, something the dealership could do themselves by hiring night guards. Instead, the tax payers are paying.
This is more effective and less risky than actual vandalism. Stand out there and be our protest. Good work, cops.
Fuck the police that put companies over people. If you’re one of those cops… fuck you.
Cops are employed to protect rich people's property, nothing else.
Those cops have more important places to be.
there's a black person in the area to shoot?
A job hunting workshop?
Was there a threat made against that location? Or did they decide to waste the time of every police officer putting them there as a precaution?
Fair point. Police aren't hassling people and this is an effective way to discourage people from going to the dealership. I approve.
Wait till you see how much money they’re getting paid (at taxpayer expense)!
I'd rather have them being useless guarding a nazi store then out amongt the public causing trouble and abusing citizens whilst utterly failing to do their jobs with any level of professionalism.
That is an excellent use of police resources.
Indeed. Clearly these idiots are badly in need of some military gear. Maybe some armored vehicles. Look how ill equipped they are for the heavy burden of guarding that sidewalk.
It's easier for those cops to stand around than doing anything useful for society.
They get paid either way.
But with all the cops in one place, how are they going to get their quotas in?
Can they do the same at every Tesla dealer 24/7??
I'm curious how destroying Tesla dealerships hurts them. They have insurance, and are reimbursed after a claim. I get it shows how upset and discontent people are with the company. Am I missing something more?
Several ways, although it’s not enough:
It's always so damn obvious who they protect and serve. Some people just refuse to see it.
Might as well do a nazi salute while they're at it.
The SS la
Just remember, cops are only there to protect capital. They are not your friends and do not work for us.
Support the oligarchs
So sad to see What Poland and other former communist countries saw 40 years ago…
This wouldn’t be a problem if showrooms for direct to consumer car buying was illegal too.
EDIT: In case you aren’t aware (not sure if this has changed in the last decade), in a handful of states, approximately 17 (maybe less) do not allow direct to consumer dealerships. This means in states that have laws against this, the manufacturers can not operate a dealership which they sell the vehicle. So effectively Tesla must conduct their sales entirely online. Since laws very from state to state, so much as discussing pricing can be illegal. If states are gonna ban the dealerships then why not just make the showrooms illegal too?
Shilling for us all to go through useless lying middlemen for car buying? Yeah no thanks pal.
I’m not saying you’ll want it, just that it could stop these Tesla showrooms from existing.
they're protecting the building and people working there?
I’m as anti-fascist as the next person, but protecting a company from vandalism isn’t as fascist as you seem to want to think it is. Vandalism is illegal. They are law enforcement. That’s how that relationship works.
Would you say the same thing if they stood in front of a business that was under threat of being vandalized by MAGA clowns because they are publicly pro-diversity? At best I’d say the argument lies in the fact that they probably don’t need that many people, but we don’t really know what the reason was to load up that many stooges to protect that particular location.
Maybe some dumbass called in a threat?
Either way… go on and downvote away. I’m fully aware this isn’t the place for nuanced discussion.
Show me that news article.
Show of fascist force.
Yeah, Elon.
It’s a hypothetical. Look around. Communities like this use hypotheticals as the entire basis of their arguments seemingly ALL the time.
By account of excessive use of persons? I’d agree. It’s wasteful. But stepping aside and allowing people to vandalize property just because it aligns with your personal belief is now how things work. This opens the gates for others to justify destroying your shit because they disagree with it.
Oh, and it doesn’t take being “Elon” to think it takes a dumbass to threaten physical damage to a person or place because they disagree with the owner’s politics-
It just takes being a mature adult that understands how nuance works.
Your hypothetical that never applies to the real world is not "nuance".
"The owners politics" is Nazism.
If you decide to die on the hill protecting a Nazi, you'll be known as the guy who died on the hill protecting a Nazi.
lol! There it is! I was wondering how long it would take before one of you broke out the “you’re a Nazi because you think it’s okay for police to stop vandalism!”
I’ll go ahead and tag you as a waste of time to avoid further discussions that devolve into bullshit false-accusations.
Obviously I was talking about Elon Musk throwing Nazi salutes and welcome Nazis onto his online platform, and obviously you were waiting for someone to bring up how Elon Musk is a Nazi, because you are fully aware Elon Musk is a Nazi.
lol….
Nothing I said was protecting a Nazi. I’m simply stating that vandalism and destruction of property is illegal- regardless of one’s beliefs.
Would I shed a tear for him if he lost this entire company to a fucking sinkhole? Nope. But I won’t applaud people violating someone’s property because they don’t agree with it.
But… YOU took what I said to mean it’s protecting a Nazi. Because using bad faith to overcome nuance in a discussion is the only way you can argue.
I didn't say you were doing that, I said if you were doing that.
Sure, once upon a time, freeing slaves was illegal - regardless of one's beliefs.
I guess I’m just saying it’s fascism because they always seem to protect the same side. Big business and the rich and powerful. We’re still missing the main parts of it being a dictator controlling who’s targeted, so we’re using the word hyperbolically.
That’s not what fascism is.
I swear, that definition seems to change per-topic to cover whatever the popular opinion needs it to.
That "if" carries a heavy load.
But it doesn’t.