Spyke
Kichaereply
lemmy.ca

That's the point. Opposition bills in the US are often put forth to force members of the majority party to publicly vote against it, so that there is public record of their position on things.

It's an easy system to game, too, since it's trivially easy to include a poisoned pill in the bill that will push the members to reject it.

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xmunkreply
sh.itjust.works

It's like how up here in BC we got 3 conservative MPs to vote against opposing tariffs. Sometimes you just float a clear "no-brainer" bill to make the assholes clearly proclaim their assholeitude.

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It's important to never let the monsters hide behind their masks. They want passive compliance; never give it to them.

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lemmy.ca

Last I looked, any vote in Congress was foreordained unless a few Republicans were suddenly to come down with the measles, and even then, they'd probably drag themselves through DC, infecting everyone they passed, to prove their loyalty to their God Emperor.

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60dreply
lemmy.ca

It's bread and circus friend. Forcing congressmen to go public with their stance on the issue.

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lemmy.ca

While I would agree with you and Voroxpete under the old rules of US politics, they no longer apply. Seems to me the average Representative either lies through his/her teeth (assuming they have any), or votes performatively, and then does something completely different, or nothing at all. I have come to really, really dislike this kind of performative vote, seeing my fellow Canadians mislead into believing it actually means that there are folks in the House, outside of two or three, who would actually do diddly-squat to prevent their country from overrunning its neighbours to achieve hegemony. Please don't tell me how your system works, because it stopped working somewhere around Mission Accomplished.

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60dreply

Well it's Dems that brought it, so it's a way for them to raise awareness at least.

It was referred to committee, so ya, a nothingburger

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adarzareply
lemmy.ca

and take that money from its rightful owners (the rich)?

nah, it's deficit spending all the way down (including for a lot of those tax breaks the rich are getting)

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lemmy.world

Only congress can declare "war", but as far as I know, that hasn't happened since WW2. The president just does what they want.

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sbvreply
sh.itjust.works

Why doesn't Congress, the larger institution, simply eat the president?

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Tm12reply

This is how you end up with a brain worm.

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Backbone? The majority are Trunp sycophants, cravenly fawning over Trump, suggesting bills to put his orange face on Mount Rushmore and the $100 dollar bill. Voting down this bill will show that they have military intention on one, some, or all of those countries and will show them for who they really are.

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Declaring war is not the same as committing an act of war. There are not any checks in place to prevent Trump from just invading any country. It is just not formally a 'war' in whatever meaningless definition Congress has.

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60dreply
lemmy.ca

Then we know who gets helicopter rides when the rides turn. Never forget!

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I think point is to put on record for the history books who the turncoats are that supported this fascist takeover.

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Then they need to be voted out. No one voted to start wars with our own allies, especially not a fucking Democrat.

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You reached the end