Man, this is depressing. While I wasn’t “raised online” since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.
I still remember when google was the new kid on the block and the general feeling about them across early Internet forums.
Microsoft was evil because they copied everybody else’s stuff and wanted to charge for it. Apple was clueless making expensive junk. Sun was a darling for a while at least until they started pulling shit.
Enter mother-fucking-Google. Ethical. Honest. Not evil. Smart. Supporting open source. And on top of all that, FREE to use. Like Microsoft wants to charge you for hotmail if you want an inbox > 2MB? Fucking EVIL!!! Google is ethical because they are completely free!!! And I hear they are working on an email service too. Google just wants to shepherd the internet and protect it from companies like Microsoft, Apple, and AOL.
Any company that becomes publicly traded gets turned to the dark side. That's the factor that does it because they have a legal requirement to do everything they can to maximize profits.
Trying to sustain perpetual growth will always lead to companies fucking over their customers and employees.
I live Valve, but there's always that nagging bit in the back of my mind reminding me that they can always turn evil in the span of a few years. And the recent debacle with Dolphin doesn't help
No, Dolphin was their fault. Valve reached out to Nintendo before Dolphin was added to the store. If Valve hadn't asked Nintendo for permission first, Nintendo probably would have said nothing
It makes sense though. People can already install Dolphin wherever they want, including the Steam Deck. But Valve probably thinks they can get Nintendo to publish on Steam. It wasn't so long ago that Sony and Microsoft maintained exclusivility on their platforms. Valve doesn't win anything allowing Dolphin on Steam, but it can potentially anger Nintendo.
No. That is not at all what happened. No DMCA takedown notice was ever sent in this.
What happened is that Dolphin applied to go on Steam and announced that. Then Valve emailed Nintendo asking for permission. Nintendo said they didn't want it on the store, pointed to parts of the DMCA which were not actually valid for a theoretical case, and Valve blocked Dolphin from going on Steam
Valve is already evil: they locked down their steam client (unacceptable in the times of GOG, and Epic Games) and allow developers to put DRM in their games. Outside of that they were the pioneers of digital gambling with CS:GO and TF2 and using anti-features as a way to entice people to purchase micro-transactions.
There is also the B Corp designation (short for Public Benefit Corporation) which allows a company to balance its responsibility towards the share holders with some other benefit it aims to provide where the share holders aren't the (only) beneficiaries.
It's why I think worker-owned coops should be more common. Research shows that they're a more resilient business model than hierarchical businesses. I think it's because they can largely avoid the principle-agent problem, wherein executives and investors act on behalf of the company, but their personal incentives do not necessarily align with the company's. For example, a CEO has a vested interest in pumping up profitability in the short term, even if it's by slashing R&D funding and alienating customers long-term, so they can get nice numbers to pad their resumé. Likewise, investors just want their investment back.
With a coop, overall control of the company's decisions is guided more by the long-term health of the company, as that's what is best for the workers. It aligns incentives, avoiding the perverse incentives that cause hierarchical businesses to make unsustainable, short-term business decisions.
Google also had, realistically, no competition in the online ads business for most of that time. Microsoft tried so hard but never broke into that market. No other online ad company could even come close to google 2000-2010 in terms of scale, technical chops, etc.
It’s easy to have principals, it’s hard to live up to them. The first real competitor to Google’s online ads dominance was Facebook and has caused Google to completely shit the bed (from practices and policy, they’re obviously doing well money wise)
I miss the old days, browsing internet forums and discovering for the first time that there exist people out there who like the same nerdy things that I do!
All of this led to me ditching all of those (except YouTube, this is without a real alternative due to the content exclusively hosted there) and starting to self-host my stuff and joining the Fediverse.
you can use invidious or piped on PC and newpipe on a phone. just be careful cause i heard google removed newpipe from the playstore and someone put something malicious with the same name, but im not sure how that situation is going
I use the NewPipe fork with Sponsorblock as an optional feature.
You can get NewPipe on F-Droid here and the fork with Sponsorblock here.
As a rule of thumb, I always check their respective GitHub pages for links, I don't really trust the Google Store. There are too many spam duplicates of various apps, especially FOSS ones.
To have some sort of viable fediverse alternative to YouTube, the developers of it would have to abandon some of the free software principles that current fediverse platforms uphold. There needs to be a way to monetize to attract creators and get people to host the servers
If it were possible, I'd like to continually donate a given sum of money to an account that split the proceeds between the content creators and the people hosting. Granted, while I'm unemployed, the best I can do currently would be to donate hosting directly
You know, you can be into furry stuff without being into all the porn...they ARE separable. It's not any more harmful than anime fans or trekkies, really. There's tons of crossover, actually.
Yeah but...ordinary people were not dialing into BBS forums back then. We weren't "raised" online like kids now are, we were able to log off anytime and not ever need it to function in society. That started changing in the early 2000s. All my kid's school assignments are now done on a laptop on a district-owned cloud system. He hasn't needed a pencil and paper in...I forgot how long.
If you're around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.
If you're around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.
This is why I always insist that the cutoff between millenial and Gen Z is 1995. There's a pretty obvious generational split along this topic and 1995 seems to be the birth year of the divide
Most districts don't own a cloud system. They subscribe to one from a big vendor, and that vendor is scraping that sweet sweet data (aggregated and anonymity of course, because, kids), but still.
I think it's fair to say that those in their late teens now are the first generation raised online. Sure, previous generations where raised alongside the internet, but the current generation is raised with a much larger presence of the internet.
Nah, the zoomers are IMO the second generation to grow up with the internet. Sure it's even more present for them and gen alpha, but I'd argue us millennials are the ones who first really grew up with the net. While we weren't on the net all the time back then, we were the generation that grew up with the net as it became what it is today, for better or for worse.
Yeah I’m 28 and was consuming memes in middle school. I was not aware at any point where the default solution to a question was anything other than to look it up on the internet when you get home. I quit Facebook in high school.
But not a massive social media presence, not a massive streaming presence, little to no influencers. We didn't grow up online like kids today, even if we played some Runescape on dial-up.
It is just mindless pursuit of the forbidden for algorithm cheering reasons. And then you need to have had hot sisters to lust after growing up. With so many one children families you end up with a relatively small proportion of the population that could even care.
On the other hand, adding one incest adjacent keywords to the title, if it means 3% more clicks they'll do it
Those click could be superstition about algorithm. I often click on them, it's not because the word "step" but the word is there anyway. Porn sites aren't sophisticated enough by and large to do proper a/b testing and find out if the word step make want difference. Especially when the actual content doesn't even play with the incest concept itself.
I don't know, for me it feels chasing the forbidden for forbiddenness' sake. The biggest clue to that is how the actual content does really do anything with what the title promises. It doesn't change what's on screen
Not "could", you very likely are or have been porn to somebody. Like really very likely. Chances are just that they will never tell you and you will never find out.
Youtube taught you to be yourself? The site where basically everyone fakes a striking and cheerful personality because of how difficult it is to build an audience if you don't?
It's clear the original was made before all those sites enshittified into their current forms. That's why it mentions Vine instead of TikTok, which is notable for having been enshittified from day 1.
We recently had trouble with the voicemail on a phone, and when we were talking to apple support over the phone, they mentioned that our phone had recently overheated but that wouldn’t have caused the problem. It was in the sun on our dashboard for a few minutes a week or 2 before.
I wonder if that type of data could also be going into your interest rates if you apply for an Apple Card. Same with battery levels and drop events. I know that Chinese loan apps mine that data when approving loans, but don’t know if apple would use that data.
Honestly agreed. I hate that we don't have a good open alternative to YT, but as long as you can afford it buying premium seems like a decent alternative.
@normalmighty@RagingRobot, well, you can use front-ends like CloudTube, Invidious instances, Piped or an Desktop client like FreeTube.
You can also watch YouTube sandboxed searching the video with Andisearch and viewing it in the search results.
Sure I could but I could also just pay $8 or whatever it is and the creators that I watch get a small portion of the money. I like them tracking the videos I watch so that I can look back and find the ones I liked.
I'd love to subscribe to premium, but in my country they have disabled it. It is basically not possible to remove ads even when I want to pay, lmao. So, duck them, give me my vanced/revanced
@RagingRobot, sure you can also pay to be able to see the menu of a restaurant, to see what you might like or not. Why do you think why more and more artists put a video of theirs on YT for free and the rest move to Bandcamp to sell there?
It's because of the ads and what YT charges for the premium account, they see pennies.
If YT would pay them fairly, artists wouldn't need to undergo the beating of a concert-to-concert tour to earn their money from ticket and direct sales of their records.
Lemmy is great but the majority of you guys have a, r/notlikeothergirls vibe.
Like you know something about the world and by saying, "I am not mainstream I am alternative," you are making yourselves inclusive in some way. You don't know anything the rest of the world doesn't already have some idea about. Some sort of secret knowledge. I think my favorite thing I have seen on here is people thinking they are private and secure on the Fediverse. Despite the fact you are on a self hosted instance of someone's hardware and handing your privacy and security to someone random or an entity at random.
Being inclusive is not how you educate people. It's how you isolate your knowledge and make people think you are a jerk.
Lemmy attracts this FOSS/linux/firefox/self-hosted or die mentality because the biggest jump in Lemmy users came from a corporation messing with a product they liked
Without "die hard" FOSS people we wouldn't have Lemmy, Linux, Apache, Firefox etc etc etc. I mean, dont shit where you eat I guess I what I want to say.
People like me are the black sheep among thousands of white sheeps, between lefties and boomers. I could only be in an eco chamber if I was literally schizophrenic. Right-wing people have to deal with woke every day it's just impossible to ignore it.
Why's everything gotta be about money? Good things happen without it. Rain falls, feeds a fruit tree, makes a fruit, I eat it, poop out the seeds, new fruit tree grows. Money doesn't fall from trees, but I can't eat money.
The whole system is poorly prioritized to protect people's things instead of people. Even then it does a poor job and only protects the things that belong to those with the most things. It's not even about those people, just their wealth, because if somebody else got their wealth no one would care about them anymore.
I don't care about communists or capitalists or any ists you can name. To hell with Mao and Thatcher and Lenin and Reagan and Trump and Biden. Fuck em. My question is why can we always find money for war, and for rich people to do stupid shit, but never enough for health care, or food for hungry children, or anything like that. Fuck anybody okay with hungry babies.
Eating and apple and pooping out the seeds might grow new trees, but none of those trees are likely to make apples like you ate.
Money is a convenient way to trade your work or skills for someone else’s. Like the guy who grafts apple tree scions together to make the apples that taste good grow in their orchard.
Now when the guy who knows how to grow hood apple trees decides he doesn’t want to compete against anybody else’s apples and squashes them, we have problems, and need rules to keep that from happening.
Right liberalism is about individual rights, economic freedom and freedom in general.
Left-wing countries will give big tech more power cause they'll have advantages over other companies and groups cause they have the money to pay for unnecessary laws that the left likes and they'll be friends with the government. In countries even more on the left the problem will be the same but added that you won't have any economic freedom and individual rights, small groups and companies will most likely not exist or die in the minute they're created and you won't be able to support them cause you basically doesn't own your own money and the money will he spent on useless taxes that you supported.
Your ideas give big tech power, you're not the resistance but the perpetrator. Big techs have grown more and more as the world has become more leftist and you insist in not noticing the base of your mentality is helping big tech.
People are so quick to forget.
Back when Netflix came out it's appeal was offering movies for viewing online. People scoffed at it because TV was king and Netflix wasn't on TV yet, smart TVs weren't a thing and Roku had to be built as a middleman. "Why would I pay for that". No one believed in the products in the way that people believe in Netflix and YouTube or Google or even twitter today.
Today every tv is smart, YouTube has a YouTube TV app, all these media companies have their own apps like paramount and ESPN, and people are willing to pay.
Are you high? Netflix wasn't online, it was DVDs through the mail that you kept until you were ready for new ones. After its online became far more popular than the legacy service, people were still pissed when they announced they were going to stop the DVD mail, even when they stopped using that original service.
I had a mythtv box with 1000 movies, 10s of thousands of TV episodes just so much stuff and a computer in every tv in the house. You could rewind live tv and skip ads. Most family members never switched the tv input to the mythtv box. The two that used it asked after two weeks, is there anything new?
Tumblr, too, once upon a time.
Started out as a side project built by a guy and a programmer from his company he paid to help him. He hated social media sites like Facebook and wanted to build a social media site that he would enjoy using. Someplace where he could post his photos and follow people he liked so he could see their content, and that was it.
I dunno if I'd call it a massive corporation now. Data grabbing? Most likely, it's got ads at the very least, so it's got ad metrics. But it's owned by the same people who own WordPress now.
Honestly, the best part of modern Tumblr is that the creator sold it to Yahoo for just over $1 billion, and then Verizon sold it for less than $3 million 6 years later. They tried to monetize it, royally screwed themselves in the process, and ended up selling it for less than .3% of what Yahoo bought it for in the first place.
The original owner took his money from the sale, disappeared from public life, and only pops up occasionally when he makes a donation to some charity or another. All while Verizon gave themselves hemorrhoids trying to make it into another data-grabbing social media blackhole like Twitter X or Facebook.
Man, this is depressing. While I wasn’t “raised online” since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.
I still remember when google was the new kid on the block and the general feeling about them across early Internet forums.
Microsoft was evil because they copied everybody else’s stuff and wanted to charge for it. Apple was clueless making expensive junk. Sun was a darling for a while at least until they started pulling shit.
Enter mother-fucking-Google. Ethical. Honest. Not evil. Smart. Supporting open source. And on top of all that, FREE to use. Like Microsoft wants to charge you for hotmail if you want an inbox > 2MB? Fucking EVIL!!! Google is ethical because they are completely free!!! And I hear they are working on an email service too. Google just wants to shepherd the internet and protect it from companies like Microsoft, Apple, and AOL.
Oh Google.
A company that survives long enough eventually gets turned to the dark $ide. Greedy asshats will always ruin a good thing for their own benefit
Any company that becomes publicly traded gets turned to the dark side. That's the factor that does it because they have a legal requirement to do everything they can to maximize profits.
Trying to sustain perpetual growth will always lead to companies fucking over their customers and employees.
While I feel this is true there are so few privately owned companies that prove this as fact. Holds breath that steam never fucks over its customers
I live Valve, but there's always that nagging bit in the back of my mind reminding me that they can always turn evil in the span of a few years. And the recent debacle with Dolphin doesn't help
No, Dolphin was their fault. Valve reached out to Nintendo before Dolphin was added to the store. If Valve hadn't asked Nintendo for permission first, Nintendo probably would have said nothing
Nintendo is required by law to do something or else they run the risk of losing their trademarks.
It makes sense though. People can already install Dolphin wherever they want, including the Steam Deck. But Valve probably thinks they can get Nintendo to publish on Steam. It wasn't so long ago that Sony and Microsoft maintained exclusivility on their platforms. Valve doesn't win anything allowing Dolphin on Steam, but it can potentially anger Nintendo.
Nintendo sent them a DMCA takedown request for the Dolphin Steam page. So I don't think we can blame Steam for wanting to stay out of legal trouble
No. That is not at all what happened. No DMCA takedown notice was ever sent in this.
What happened is that Dolphin applied to go on Steam and announced that. Then Valve emailed Nintendo asking for permission. Nintendo said they didn't want it on the store, pointed to parts of the DMCA which were not actually valid for a theoretical case, and Valve blocked Dolphin from going on Steam
You're right.
Sorry, I just heard somewhere Nintendo sent a DMCA notice and assumed it was right because that seems like a Nintendo thing to do.
Valve is already evil: they locked down their steam client (unacceptable in the times of GOG, and Epic Games) and allow developers to put DRM in their games. Outside of that they were the pioneers of digital gambling with CS:GO and TF2 and using anti-features as a way to entice people to purchase micro-transactions.
That's likely in part due to the fact that they'd really like to he publicly traded.
There is also the B Corp designation (short for Public Benefit Corporation) which allows a company to balance its responsibility towards the share holders with some other benefit it aims to provide where the share holders aren't the (only) beneficiaries.
It's why I think worker-owned coops should be more common. Research shows that they're a more resilient business model than hierarchical businesses. I think it's because they can largely avoid the principle-agent problem, wherein executives and investors act on behalf of the company, but their personal incentives do not necessarily align with the company's. For example, a CEO has a vested interest in pumping up profitability in the short term, even if it's by slashing R&D funding and alienating customers long-term, so they can get nice numbers to pad their resumé. Likewise, investors just want their investment back.
With a coop, overall control of the company's decisions is guided more by the long-term health of the company, as that's what is best for the workers. It aligns incentives, avoiding the perverse incentives that cause hierarchical businesses to make unsustainable, short-term business decisions.
catabolic stage of capitalism
'You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
Being good is good for growth, but investors eventually want that payout.
Google also had, realistically, no competition in the online ads business for most of that time. Microsoft tried so hard but never broke into that market. No other online ad company could even come close to google 2000-2010 in terms of scale, technical chops, etc.
It’s easy to have principals, it’s hard to live up to them. The first real competitor to Google’s online ads dominance was Facebook and has caused Google to completely shit the bed (from practices and policy, they’re obviously doing well money wise)
Google was so exciting. Gmail especially.
We were so keen to ditch yahoo messenger and msn as soon as facebook messenger came out too.
Now it all sucks.
This made me really nostalgic for times when the internet still felt new and promising...
I miss the old days, browsing internet forums and discovering for the first time that there exist people out there who like the same nerdy things that I do!
Google didn't have a plan to keep from becoming evil. They just had a cute motto.
That bit reminded me that my mom had a desktop application that takes messages for you when we were using the dial up.
Shoutout to Deviantart, they a real one
Shame you need an account now to download the old cursor packs and stuff
Sadly even with furry porn, still a product. They forced everyone to be in some art AI dataset, it's quite the downfall
All of this led to me ditching all of those (except YouTube, this is without a real alternative due to the content exclusively hosted there) and starting to self-host my stuff and joining the Fediverse.
you can use invidious or piped on PC and newpipe on a phone. just be careful cause i heard google removed newpipe from the playstore and someone put something malicious with the same name, but im not sure how that situation is going
I use the NewPipe fork with Sponsorblock as an optional feature. You can get NewPipe on F-Droid here and the fork with Sponsorblock here.
As a rule of thumb, I always check their respective GitHub pages for links, I don't really trust the Google Store. There are too many spam duplicates of various apps, especially FOSS ones.
You can still get NewPipe on F-Droid.
I just disabled play store and sideload everything anyways.
How's newpipe compared to youtube revanced?
As far as I'm aware: No login capability, does not require Play Services, supports a few other sites like SoundCloud.
Both don't show YT ads.
For NewPipe there's a fork that includes SponsorBlock and Return YouTube Dislike (both of which are in Revanced IIRC?)
There's also dentex YouTube downloader. (android).
To have some sort of viable fediverse alternative to YouTube, the developers of it would have to abandon some of the free software principles that current fediverse platforms uphold. There needs to be a way to monetize to attract creators and get people to host the servers
If it were possible, I'd like to continually donate a given sum of money to an account that split the proceeds between the content creators and the people hosting. Granted, while I'm unemployed, the best I can do currently would be to donate hosting directly
While I'm not into furry porn, I love the community around it. I've actually had random encounters with a few furies and they are awesome peeps.
You know, you can be into furry stuff without being into all the porn...they ARE separable. It's not any more harmful than anime fans or trekkies, really. There's tons of crossover, actually.
Same, and they're usually some of the best engineers out there.
They even helped develop the COVID vaccines.
Furries need high paying jobs to be able to afford all those commissions and fursuits, after all.
Listen I didn't choose the life, the life chose me.
OwO
Memes. Memes everywhere
I feel the same. To each their own, I just don't get it, but, I'm glad those that do have a place to be themselves!
Someone's underestimating the age of the internet.
Yeah but...ordinary people were not dialing into BBS forums back then. We weren't "raised" online like kids now are, we were able to log off anytime and not ever need it to function in society. That started changing in the early 2000s. All my kid's school assignments are now done on a laptop on a district-owned cloud system. He hasn't needed a pencil and paper in...I forgot how long.
If you're around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.
This is why I always insist that the cutoff between millenial and Gen Z is 1995. There's a pretty obvious generational split along this topic and 1995 seems to be the birth year of the divide
Most districts don't own a cloud system. They subscribe to one from a big vendor, and that vendor is scraping that sweet sweet data (aggregated and anonymity of course, because, kids), but still.
Seriously, Eternal September was like 30 years ago.
I think it's fair to say that those in their late teens now are the first generation raised online. Sure, previous generations where raised alongside the internet, but the current generation is raised with a much larger presence of the internet.
Nah, the zoomers are IMO the second generation to grow up with the internet. Sure it's even more present for them and gen alpha, but I'd argue us millennials are the ones who first really grew up with the net. While we weren't on the net all the time back then, we were the generation that grew up with the net as it became what it is today, for better or for worse.
Yeah I’m 28 and was consuming memes in middle school. I was not aware at any point where the default solution to a question was anything other than to look it up on the internet when you get home. I quit Facebook in high school.
Grew up with it, but weren't raised by it.
I say I grew up online. I was a gamer/geek, and there was a massive gaming social presence online in the 90s.
But not a massive social media presence, not a massive streaming presence, little to no influencers. We didn't grow up online like kids today, even if we played some Runescape on dial-up.
But it certainly wasn't the internet listed there at least not until the very tail-end of "growing up".
Pornhub taught me I'm picky af
Pornhub taught me people like incest. Maybe it's related to game of thrones?
It is just mindless pursuit of the forbidden for algorithm cheering reasons. And then you need to have had hot sisters to lust after growing up. With so many one children families you end up with a relatively small proportion of the population that could even care.
On the other hand, adding one incest adjacent keywords to the title, if it means 3% more clicks they'll do it
Those click could be superstition about algorithm. I often click on them, it's not because the word "step" but the word is there anyway. Porn sites aren't sophisticated enough by and large to do proper a/b testing and find out if the word step make want difference. Especially when the actual content doesn't even play with the incest concept itself.
I don't know, for me it feels chasing the forbidden for forbiddenness' sake. The biggest clue to that is how the actual content does really do anything with what the title promises. It doesn't change what's on screen
Pornhub prob made you picky. Be less picky it's great.
If it's not underwater trans midget porn, I'm not interested
Indeed, indeed.
Picky is a weird way of saying normal. Just because you're straight doesn't mean you're picky if you don't like trans or gay stuff.
rule34 sites taught me I could be porn
Not "could", you very likely are or have been porn to somebody. Like really very likely. Chances are just that they will never tell you and you will never find out.
Oh, I know I was for sure. I wish I'd still be lol
what the fuck are you talking about
Oh, I know I was for sure. I wish I'd still be lol
Jesus what was the original version of this?
Cringe. The original version is cringe.
Gotchu fam!
Youtube taught you to be yourself? The site where basically everyone fakes a striking and cheerful personality because of how difficult it is to build an audience if you don't?
To be fair, old YouTube wasn't always like this, and the picture has all old logos in it.
It's clear the original was made before all those sites enshittified into their current forms. That's why it mentions Vine instead of TikTok, which is notable for having been enshittified from day 1.
The sweet release of death cannot come soon enough
No you didn't, that's a Google search to a cropped image
This is an image, and the original
Holy yikes, batman
Huh, I say "gotchu fam" too. Anyway, thanks! And yeah, that's cringe.
I found a Reddit link to an original
Good fucking god. Whatever moron created this... I hope they are as happy as they are stupid.
Thank you. I'll save it in case I ever have to induce vomiting with that HailCorporate nonsense...
One of these things is not like the other...
DeviantArt really caught me off guard... lol
Vine taught me you're worthless unless you're making someone else money.
Sounds like it prepared you for the world economy
It hurts because it's true... ;_;
Which generation? Im 36 and i was definitely raised online.
Gen Z (most likely)
Let vine rest easy
I need to log into my old deviantArt account again. Those were fun times.
Don't bother. Everything has a watermark on it now.
One of these things is not like the others.
Even if its extremely pricey mmmhhmm apple
They only* use it against you when your phone stops working.
*that I we know of.
We recently had trouble with the voicemail on a phone, and when we were talking to apple support over the phone, they mentioned that our phone had recently overheated but that wouldn’t have caused the problem. It was in the sun on our dashboard for a few minutes a week or 2 before.
I wonder if that type of data could also be going into your interest rates if you apply for an Apple Card. Same with battery levels and drop events. I know that Chinese loan apps mine that data when approving loans, but don’t know if apple would use that data.
i cannot escape YouTube at all for sure and i do want to use instagram sometimes + GIB VINE
Use YouTube.com in firefox with u-block origin. Works well enough while not giving them ad revenue.
OR you can use piped to watch youtube videos
Or Invidious.
i do use newpipe and clipious from time to time
on computers sure on mobile well it works
Android, Firefox, uBlock Origin and Background Play Fix. Never going back.
You can install desktop extensions on Kiwi browser.
eat shit bitch nobody was talking about chromium
Adblock extension + saferi.
Even works in the background and with locked screen
WHY THE HECK IS NOBODY TAKING NOTE OF ME SAYING I USE REVANCED
Yes it is fucking cool and stuff, but iPhone users can’t use revanced or do they?
Because I sure as heck’d use it!
if I'd have a ipad id use it as a drawing tablet if i had an apple pencil too otherwise to the bin
Jokes aside, revanced is cool AF. It has sponsorblock, dislikes and additional share buttons. Such an amazing app.
I used to do that but I realized content creators don't get paid if I do that so I subscribed to Premium.
Just pay to remove the ads
That makes the privacy issues with YouTube worse. They can link your YouTube watch history with your identity
They can already do that without paying
Not if you use anonymizing software
Honestly agreed. I hate that we don't have a good open alternative to YT, but as long as you can afford it buying premium seems like a decent alternative.
@normalmighty @RagingRobot, well, you can use front-ends like CloudTube, Invidious instances, Piped or an Desktop client like FreeTube.
You can also watch YouTube sandboxed searching the video with Andisearch and viewing it in the search results.
https://andisearch.com
Sure I could but I could also just pay $8 or whatever it is and the creators that I watch get a small portion of the money. I like them tracking the videos I watch so that I can look back and find the ones I liked.
I'd love to subscribe to premium, but in my country they have disabled it. It is basically not possible to remove ads even when I want to pay, lmao. So, duck them, give me my vanced/revanced
@RagingRobot, sure you can also pay to be able to see the menu of a restaurant, to see what you might like or not. Why do you think why more and more artists put a video of theirs on YT for free and the rest move to Bandcamp to sell there?
It's because of the ads and what YT charges for the premium account, they see pennies.
If YT would pay them fairly, artists wouldn't need to undergo the beating of a concert-to-concert tour to earn their money from ticket and direct sales of their records.
revanced
Lemmy is great but the majority of you guys have a, r/notlikeothergirls vibe.
Like you know something about the world and by saying, "I am not mainstream I am alternative," you are making yourselves inclusive in some way. You don't know anything the rest of the world doesn't already have some idea about. Some sort of secret knowledge. I think my favorite thing I have seen on here is people thinking they are private and secure on the Fediverse. Despite the fact you are on a self hosted instance of someone's hardware and handing your privacy and security to someone random or an entity at random.
Being inclusive is not how you educate people. It's how you isolate your knowledge and make people think you are a jerk.
Lemmy attracts this FOSS/linux/firefox/self-hosted or die mentality because the biggest jump in Lemmy users came from a corporation messing with a product they liked
Which is good.
Without "die hard" FOSS people we wouldn't have Lemmy, Linux, Apache, Firefox etc etc etc. I mean, dont shit where you eat I guess I what I want to say.
You're a real man, could you check my profile?
I reviewed your profile. Personal opinion. You have some personal growing to do.
It feels like you are a 14 yo edgy person watching too much right wing echo chambers.
It's just a big mess.
People like me are the black sheep among thousands of white sheeps, between lefties and boomers. I could only be in an eco chamber if I was literally schizophrenic. Right-wing people have to deal with woke every day it's just impossible to ignore it.
Lol sure buddy, you're all different from ... checks notes ... 2 whole groups of people.
You sure should get out and around a bit.
The "bAd wOkE" is literally made up by the far right, and I see you identify with them, so much for the lone rebel lol.
Yes, anyone who doesn't agree with you is a far right extremist.
You're really taking the discussion to seventh heaven.
This is what neoliberalism does. It privatizes everything, including the individual. Everyone is a product. Everyone has a "brand".
Why's everything gotta be about money? Good things happen without it. Rain falls, feeds a fruit tree, makes a fruit, I eat it, poop out the seeds, new fruit tree grows. Money doesn't fall from trees, but I can't eat money.
The whole system is poorly prioritized to protect people's things instead of people. Even then it does a poor job and only protects the things that belong to those with the most things. It's not even about those people, just their wealth, because if somebody else got their wealth no one would care about them anymore.
I don't care about communists or capitalists or any ists you can name. To hell with Mao and Thatcher and Lenin and Reagan and Trump and Biden. Fuck em. My question is why can we always find money for war, and for rich people to do stupid shit, but never enough for health care, or food for hungry children, or anything like that. Fuck anybody okay with hungry babies.
Eating and apple and pooping out the seeds might grow new trees, but none of those trees are likely to make apples like you ate.
Money is a convenient way to trade your work or skills for someone else’s. Like the guy who grafts apple tree scions together to make the apples that taste good grow in their orchard.
Now when the guy who knows how to grow hood apple trees decides he doesn’t want to compete against anybody else’s apples and squashes them, we have problems, and need rules to keep that from happening.
I like how you equated money as a goal to money as a tool and that because the latter is a good idea then the first one must also be a good idea.
I found this list of true-to-seed fruits and vegetables I thought you might find interesting. I found it on The Spruce.
Certain heirloom apples, such as Antonovka
Polyembryonic mango seeds
Lemon
Lime
Orange
Peach
Papaya
Apricot
Nectarine
Heirloom tomatoes
There are tons of other heirloom vegetables, I don't know why they only mentioned tomatoes on their list but yeah.
haha silly commie. if there's no money, where you gonna get your money?
Right liberalism is about individual rights, economic freedom and freedom in general. Left-wing countries will give big tech more power cause they'll have advantages over other companies and groups cause they have the money to pay for unnecessary laws that the left likes and they'll be friends with the government. In countries even more on the left the problem will be the same but added that you won't have any economic freedom and individual rights, small groups and companies will most likely not exist or die in the minute they're created and you won't be able to support them cause you basically doesn't own your own money and the money will he spent on useless taxes that you supported. Your ideas give big tech power, you're not the resistance but the perpetrator. Big techs have grown more and more as the world has become more leftist and you insist in not noticing the base of your mentality is helping big tech.
Wow man, bet you think it's the LGBTs fault too and that the EU is some leftist place with less freedom than the US.
Travel a bit, helps heaps for people like you, I mean if your freedom includes stuff like holidays...
ouch, right in the freedom 😁
People are so quick to forget. Back when Netflix came out it's appeal was offering movies for viewing online. People scoffed at it because TV was king and Netflix wasn't on TV yet, smart TVs weren't a thing and Roku had to be built as a middleman. "Why would I pay for that". No one believed in the products in the way that people believe in Netflix and YouTube or Google or even twitter today.
Today every tv is smart, YouTube has a YouTube TV app, all these media companies have their own apps like paramount and ESPN, and people are willing to pay.
Are you high? Netflix wasn't online, it was DVDs through the mail that you kept until you were ready for new ones. After its online became far more popular than the legacy service, people were still pissed when they announced they were going to stop the DVD mail, even when they stopped using that original service.
I think it's sort of implied that the time period I'm referring to is when Netflix shifted it's attention to the online service.
And what I'm saying is still valid. I remember my father scoffing at Netflix because he didn't think it could compete with traditional TV.
I had a mythtv box with 1000 movies, 10s of thousands of TV episodes just so much stuff and a computer in every tv in the house. You could rewind live tv and skip ads. Most family members never switched the tv input to the mythtv box. The two that used it asked after two weeks, is there anything new?
What about 4chan and 8kun? Asking for a friend 😐
Taught me to be racist :(
Man, vines. That's a blast from the past.
That's like, last week for us old fucks.
I still call all the short videos vines. I refuse to learn all their pointless terminology for the same shameless dark pattern.
but would you do it for the vine?
I haven't heard that phrase in yeeeeeaaarsssss
😳
DA, the one half way decent platform. XD
Tumblr, too, once upon a time. Started out as a side project built by a guy and a programmer from his company he paid to help him. He hated social media sites like Facebook and wanted to build a social media site that he would enjoy using. Someplace where he could post his photos and follow people he liked so he could see their content, and that was it.
And now its a massive data-grabbing corpo. What an inspiring story.
I dunno if I'd call it a massive corporation now. Data grabbing? Most likely, it's got ads at the very least, so it's got ad metrics. But it's owned by the same people who own WordPress now.
Honestly, the best part of modern Tumblr is that the creator sold it to Yahoo for just over $1 billion, and then Verizon sold it for less than $3 million 6 years later. They tried to monetize it, royally screwed themselves in the process, and ended up selling it for less than .3% of what Yahoo bought it for in the first place.
The original owner took his money from the sale, disappeared from public life, and only pops up occasionally when he makes a donation to some charity or another. All while Verizon gave themselves hemorrhoids trying to make it into another data-grabbing social media blackhole like
TwitterX or Facebook.One of these things is not like the others
they're gonna make a movie about this
They did. It called "Wall Street" (1987), where they told us that, "greed is good."
I want to see the original too.
Edit: Nevermind, it's posted below. It's really cringey.