Spyke
comfydecalreply
infosec.pub

Right? And why not just boycott all pubkically traded companies forever? 40 days doesn't do much

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Voroxpetereply
sh.itjust.works

Because if you propose that, no one is actually going to do it.

Doing something is always more impactful than shooting for everything and ending up doing nothing. This is a great example of a smartly thought out mass movement; it has a specific goal, and a clearly defined set of terms. Remember, you can always expand or extend. It's far better to get a small thing moving than try to build a big thing that you never finish.

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Further, a lot of dirt poor people literally rely on Walmart because Walmart was successful at gutting every other business out of their already dirt poor areas. That was literally Walmart's business model to undersell the competition until they were the only game in town, it's how they got so huge so fast. Large swathes of the South are like that. There's a reason they teach their employees how to sign up for food stamps.

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lemmy.myserv.one

Also, 40 days is long enough that some people are going to change their shopping habits on a more permanent basis. Creating even a longer impact on Target.

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Voroxpetereply
sh.itjust.works

I don't get why anyone complains about fixed term boycotts anyway. You can just add another 40 days if Target doesn't get the message. It's not like you're signing a contract or something. Boycotts are a negotiation, and in negotiation you always leave yourself wiggle room.

People love to get into this "Only the biggest possible action and nothing else" mindset, and then never actually take any action at all.

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The one day ones are fairly pointless, but 40 is good. Give it a month and if nothing changes then you have a bit more time to try to extend it.

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comfydecalreply
infosec.pub

100%, perfect is the enemy of good. But it makes little logical sense to give any of these corporations any money or data

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Voroxpetereply
sh.itjust.works

If you're on the highway, need a coffee, and Starbucks is the only thing around, buy the Starbucks.

If Amazon is the only place you can buy that thing you need, buy it from Amazon.

There are plenty of times when the bad option is the only good option. If we teach people that boycotts have to be all or nothing - if we get into this mindset that a single latte means you're an evil monster who supports genocide - we just engineer a state of despair.

But if we encourage people to reduce rather than cut out, we set an easily achievable goal. And that means it's a goal that a lot more people will strive for.

If you want to cut out every big corporation entirely from your life, that's an admirable personal goal, but not one that seems easy or achievable to most people.

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lemmy.world

I'm definitely with you on that in spirit. I would starve if I actually practiced that across the board. I figure if we start from the top down, maybe we can get the co-ops to come back. Our neighborhood co-op grocery closed down not too long ago, and all that's left are national chains.

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errerreply
lemmy.world

I think it’s fair to commit to reducing your purchasing from these large entities significantly. By design, these companies have made it basically impossible to get certain products except from them, so do what you need to do in those cases. But you can get a lot still from alternatives.

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I'm a huge advocate of what I call "soft boycotting." You don't have to all or nothing this stuff. If a million people reduce their spending on a company by only ten percent, that's just as much damage as ten thousand people dropping them entirely. And it's a lot easier to get a million people to reduce their spending by a little than it is to get ten thousand people to go cold turkey.

Remember, perfect is the enemy of good. A small action taken is worth far more than a big action only imagined.

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Yeah co-ops are amazing, I'm always astounded when I find cities that don't have any

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Better than these one day protests that LITERALLY do nothing. At least a 40 day boycott would hit a fiscal month, vs a single day outlier protest.

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Azalreply
pawb.social

That is the part that pisses me off so much about this. Yes. Target capitulated. Yes, Target needs to be told that's not good.

BUT WALTONS FUND THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION!

This can't be said enough, yet we can't get a days boycott on them for fucks sake!

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fact-check-project-2025s-heritage-foundation-donors-have-included-coors-walmart-and-exxonmobil/ar-BB1pPBTC

Looks like the Federalist Society is connected, too. It's like the Who's Who of Homogeny, Exclusion, and Inequity. Somebody give me an L-word so we can call them what they are.

I'm not doing the whole "Everyone I don't agree with is a Nazi." I mean, very specifically, this is the strategy used by unaccountable, ultrawealthy people to wield their power recklessly for an extremist movement that they're going to lose control of. It just happens to be the best-known, contemporary archetypal, right-wing-flavor of the revolutionary bait-and-switch.

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Salehreply
feddit.org

People need awareness, motivation and organization. If you can help with that, go for it.

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I've been outcyring that Walmart has been the one of the major architects of the downfall of the working class my entire life.

But people who have choices just respond it's cheaper...

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Amonveritereply
lemmy.ca

Exactly why Walmart should be PERMANENTLY BOYCOTTED!

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Greatest thing of moving out of its hometown is actually having choices.

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dan1101reply
lemm.ee

There is supposed to be a weeklong boycott of Amazon this month, I forget the exact date.

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It couldn’t come at a worse time for the company

Neither could their capitulation to Trumps bigoted rhetoric.

I got a lot of flak and eye rolls from my liberal friends a few years ago when I, as a queer woman, would criticize their Rainbow Capitalism. But Target is not an ally, they never were. They are simply a corporation that got some easy publicity in liberal spaces by showing the bare minimum decency.

Fair weather allies, aren't.

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lemmy.world

Just to build on this. No publicly traded company is an ally to any group but its shareholders.

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boolyreply
sh.itjust.works

That's why it's our responsibility as consumers to align their shareholder interests to doing the right fucking thing. Boycotts and other consumer action are part of their calculations on what the shareholder interests are, so a large population of informed consumers who vote their conscience with their wallet will provide pressure to do the right thing.

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Target is under more pressure than companies like Walmart, John Deere or Tractor Supply, because Target went further in its DEI efforts, and it has a more progressive base of customers than those competitors.

This is wild move for a company on its arse anyway.

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There's a boycott? I just don't shop there because it's the same crap as everywhere else for more money and a worse experience.

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kylereply
lemm.ee

I know right I can just buy it on Amazon /s

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Nah Amazon is cheaper and a better experience. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of reasons not to shop at Amazon, but price and shopping experience are above Target.

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Unsarcastically but sadly, yes. It's the same items, with the same supply chain and the same issues. But it's at a lower cost to me. Frankly, as things get tight, we'll all need to make decisions between our ideals and our bank accounts. I assume that most of us will lean toward preserving the bank account and reckon with our ideals later.

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kylereply

Yeah unfortunately I know exactly what you mean. You do what you have to do to make it.

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lemm.ee

My wife told me we are boycotting, so lets do this!

I have 3 trans friends and as a super straight middle aged privileged all to hell white dad, fuck these corporate assholes.

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SippyCupreply
feddit.nl

My wife lives at Target. She's already found other places to get the essentials.

40 days.

Fill a target online shopping cart with every day items, stuff you would buy every week or every month, and abandon it. Nothing big or expensive, standard shit.

Do that a few times.

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You just happened to remind me of Career Opportunities, a movie about being trapped inside a Target overnight.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Dear capitalist media... Target is being boycotted for being racist. And no, Target is not the victim.

These headlines ffs...

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They canceled their black creator products and rolled back DEI because the government said to.

Some people can argue that's not racism, but they're likely the same people that argue that Elon wasn't giving a Nazi salute.

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Putting a time limit on a boycott undermines the boycott.

Saw this with the Loblaw’s boycott here in Canada, it was very ineffective because they can just wait it out.

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lemm.ee

From the point of view of the boycotter, having a time limit helps mentally.

I think more people are ready to think "just buy somewhere else for a bit". If it becomes "forever" might seem daunting.

My two cents, not sure if this is the real reason.

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That's my thought as well. A one day boycott like the "no shopping day" does literally nothing, but 40 days can reform habits. To the extent practicable, I'm doing all my shopping at Costco now. I generally eat a lot of the same things, so bulk quantities aren't that big of a deal to manage.

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Wilcoreply

Yes, just don't shop at Target.
It's strange that people forget that businesses like Target getting rid of DEI also gets rid of many disability act initiatives. There should be more outrage than just a boycott.

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null_dotreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

My partner and I had our first children (twins) about a year ago. They're great.

Before then, I rarely if ever went to this type of store. We don't have a local Target but we have K-Mart which I think is comparable in Australia.

Honestly I think we've done pretty well at buying most of what we need second hand, and then selling it on once it's no longer required. We also get toys from a local toy library which is amazing.

That said, I've sadly become a semi-regular K-Mart shopper because I require some of the cheap plastic junk they sell. A good example is shoes, I can buy a pair of shoes for the kids for less than the cost of a cup of coffee.

The thing is, everything about the store is repulsive. It's basically a plastic shop. They sell plastic. Even the clothing and shoes is polyester and nylon and plasticised rubber. Also, since we're here, if I'm really honest about it I would have to assume that the person who made my kids shoes is probably being exploited. That sucks.

Anyhow, I don't really have a point, just having a whinge and acknowledging that target / kmart is definitely the worst part of having a child.

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Similar here. We used to be great at avoiding the corporate stores until we had a kid. Convenience and selection wins when you're overstressed and sleep deprived.

I think we've done great at rolling back to local-only shopping this year. No Amazon, no target. Costco still gets out visits, but overall we're being much more thoughtful about who gets our money and we're spending significantly less also.

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lemmy.world

Remember there are bots even on Lemmy to push the narrative that we have no power. Billionaires aren't scared of a couple less dollars, but they are TERRIFIED of us figuring out we can organize. Let's not fight each other let's fight the oligarchy!

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Also, I've heard a rumor about Target trying to stuff as much as they can into their warehouses and stock rooms in advance of Trump's tariffs.

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the_qreply
lemm.ee

We only have power when a large enough group of us does something. Anything else is publicity.

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the_qreply

I quit eating meat because I care about animals, I limit my driving to as little as possible to lessen my impact, I use open source software exclusively, I only buy repairable tech... I'm doing what I can to lessen the suffering I, an individual, inflicts and it's made no difference. Animals still being killed, Earth still dying, corpos still raking in record profits, people still losing their homes, jobs, lives... I understand the need to feel like you and your choices matter. That's how people cope with all this. I'm m not like that. I see things as they are and not as I hope they might be one day if we can just not shop at Target.

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I urge you to see beyond that. Of course there are people (influencers likely?) you're thinking about that jump on band wagons, but every movement does and they play an important part even if you don't like them. Free advertising!

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Using gift cards is OK if you're boycotting a place, right? I mean, Target already has the money and you'd just be helping them out if you didn't buy anything with them.

I'm a school bus driver and I always get a lot of tips (Christmas and end of year) in the form of Target gift cards. BTW yes, I agree that tipping school bus drivers is fucking weird. We already get paid and it's not like we're going to drive the kids into a tree if we don't get tipped.

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SkyezOpenreply
lemmy.world

Those are Christmas gifts. The parents are just showing appreciation for you already not driving their kids into a tree, not bribing you lol.

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null_dotreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Not really. The explanation is somewhat complex.

Although target already has the money once a gift card has been purchased, they will not recognise the money as revenue until you use the card.

Suppose my lawn mowing guy charges $50 each time he mows my lawn, and he comes 12 times a year. In January I just transfer him $600 because I don't want to muck around with smaller payments all the time.

When he calculates his "revenue" for January, should he include the whole $600? It would be more accurate to set aside the $550 he hadn't really earned yet, and recognise that once he actually does the work.

There's more geaky accounting stuff I could say, but in summary if you want to send a message to Target management, refrain from using gift cards during the boycott.

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They don't get to record it as revenue, but they do get to sit on the cash, earning interest etc on it. Companies loooove gift cards. It's free money.

For a company health perspective, it's better to use it so they're at least put the cost-of-goods. Best option would be to sell the gift cards to someone who was going to shop there anyways.

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In my old community the bus driver was part of our community, we knew her and she was amazing. She knew the kids, she welcomed them by name every morning and she made sure they got to school safe AND ok.

The last bit is the most important part. She deserved a “tip” but in reality as someone who was part of my extended “raise my kid family” she “earned” her card and Starbucks gift card (mostly cuz she drank 7-11 coffee and I liked razzing her)

Our current bus driver is a contractor who couldn’t give a fuck about anything except when he has to be at the stop and when he is allowed to leave, exactly where the “nah you’re too far away from the bus stop fuck you’d kid” line is.”

It’s not always weird, but can be.

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We already get paid and it’s not like we’re going to drive the kids into a tree if we don’t get tipped.

You might not do it, I however am always looking for revenue streams. If it’s for profit, it can’t be illegal.

Looks at the health insurance industry

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I used to pretty regularly shop at target. When they rolled back DEI proactively for trump, I stopped.

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Target near me made their employees stay inside/keep working while it was evacuated for a bomb threat during that period of stochastic terrorism.

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bitjunkiereply
lemmy.world

I had heard about the boycott, but didn't realize this was the reason. Target's on the other side of town from me so I don't shop there anyway, but yeah definitely not going there at all now. Fuck them.

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It's "funny" how capitalist media will talk about the boycott and cry agonized tears for Target...

But never mention the "why", especially not in headlines.

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I work at the Target warehouse that supplies the northwest, should be interesting to see if this actually noticeably changes our daily product volume. Gonna hazard a guess at no probably not. I should have some idea within 24 hours thanks to just in time logistics but seasonal product could fuzz the numbers a bit.

Works for me though, I'm mostly here for the tuition benefit and I don't lose benefits eligibility unless I dip below 20/hr/week average which I can't imagine happening.

Update: Maybe, actually. Today was the lowest volume so far this week but we're just sorta back to the volume we were running last week. We'll see if it sticks.

Update 2: lol, today's volume is even higher than last week. It's just volatile right now I guess, no discernible impact.

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Been boycotting them since my local one let ICE use their back parking lot to stage up and detain folks

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lemmy.ml

A species of humanoid from DND that vaguely resemble devils. Think horns, tails, and red or blue skin.

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Weltreply
lazysoci.al

Tief is German for deep, and -ling is used similarly to English, meaning a creature, often in a diminutive sense but not always. I didn't know what a tiefling was but maybe this extra info helps.

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lemmy.world

Every one of these idiot companies pivoting to cowboy capitalism from rainbow capitalism are clueless about who actually has money in this country.

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aestheletereply
lemmy.world

Sorry, money they're actually willing to spend at a store.

Billionaires can't buy anything at stores, after all "IT's NOt LIQuID". 😜

PS: I know that they can buy shit at stores with their lifetime loans while keeping their assets 100% intact, but what billionaire is going to shop regularly at Target?

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Warren Buffett?

Nah, that would require Target to actually sell quality products, and Walmart has them beat on quality and price, somehow.

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sopuli.xyz

Every time I've gone into a target in the last 5 years, they legit looked like they were closing down. Idk why people are boycotting them in particular when Walmart and Amazon are way worse.

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Meowskersreply
dubvee.org

Every Target I go to is nicer than Walmart and has a more curated feel of products. I agree on the last part but it's because Target was advertising itself as being more in touch with things such as DEI and then backtracked, where Walmart and Amazon never positioned themselves as much.

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gamerreply
lemm.ee

Target's thing has always been to be "Walmart but fancy". Fun fact, the last "T" is actually silent, and you're supposed the pronounce it "Tar-jay"

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fedia.io

you're supposed the pronounce it "Tar-jay"

Lmao, no you're not, that's just something people started doing to literally make fun of the "Walmart but fancy" image they cultivated for themselves.

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lemmy.world

Same, I get major K-Mart in its final days vibes: lots of empty shelves, stuff in dented and torn packaging, hostile and surly employees etc. etc.

Browsing through the Target grocery section has always mystified me. Not great selection and everything costs about 50% more than the local grocery stores. I have never understood why anybody would shop there for groceries.

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Yeah, Kmart vibes is accurate.

There was a time when Target had a middle class demo they...targeted. But that demo is too small now. They're either going to need to shrink and market to the top 10%, competing with Whole Foods, or lower their standards and compete with Amazon. Oof, gotta love monopolies. Starting to think this boycott was Bezos' idea.

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lemm.ee

The Rite Aid near us actually was 3/4 empty all through the pandemic. They put up a sign saying they were remodeling, but closed a few months ago.

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lemmy.world

Drug stores are so fucking weird. It's a business model that apparently supports a store on every corner, yet they often go out of business too. And it's always Rite Aids going out of business, although I couldn't say what the difference is between those and the other chains.

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there's only a couple of companies that run every drug store in the us. both cvs and walgreens each own over a dozen other names that they operate as depending on where in the country you are.

same thing with grocery stores. Kroger and Safeway also both own over a dozen names that they operate under.

I believe rite aid is owned by walgreens.

A long time ago, i woked at a savers (thrift store), which also operated as a dozen other names depending on region. Makes me think that maybe someone could make a bot that could identify a person's geographic location based on the brands mentioned in their comments.

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i can tell you why - because it's easy. this is slacktivism. it changes nothing about policy. it exists exclusively to make people feel better about capitulating and doing nothing to prevent their country from becoming a fascist dictatorship

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"Hey! That store you don't shop at? Make sure you continue to not shop there for the next 40 days! That'll show the elites!"

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I go in the store to browse. But I'm also NT so it doesn't stress me out to be in a store. My wife is ND and has to psych herself up for in-store things.

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I mean besides the time that doesn't seem much different from the other 2. Walmart I'll place my grocery pickup order, select a time (usually right when I'm coming home from work so I know I won't be doing anything else) and they'll bring it out to me. Amazon obviously delivers right to my front door. Walmart means I need to order maybe 12 hours in advance and Amazon a couple days, but otherwise is there a difference?

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lemmy.world

I had no idea either. But I also haven't been to target in about 6 months and I've been boycotting pretty much everywhere else since last year. I haven't even done online shopping since October and it's been kinda nice going to actual stores again. Was gonna get a Costco membership next so I don't have to use Kroger. Unfortunately, the nearest Costco to me is about an hour away. Fortunately, I like driving.

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This reads like an Improv exercise and I LOVE IT! Unfortunately I can only get so hard.

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I was boycotting them from the point where I quit the job in logistics. That job was awful.

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I used to do nearly all my shopping there because of the policies they got rid of. Cancelled my 360 membership, getting used to buying flour 25# at a time from Costco ...

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Is that when they dropped DEI?

Because that's when I stopped shopping there. Didn't need to wait to be told and have no plans to end the boycott after 40 days or anytime. Not sure if bringing back DEI would change my mind. They played us.

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lemmy.zip

Please stop with the time bound protests. You're telling the companies to just wait you out. 🤦‍♀️

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Yes, stop protesting if you aren't willing to protest the right way. There are no steps to be taken in the right direction, you're either perfect or worthless.

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lemmy.world

Easiest. Boycott. Ever.

Target sells cheaply manufactured goods at high prices. I haven't shopped there in years already for that reason.

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I like to go there to buy thermos. They have a clearance section that sells them for like $5. Big good ones too.

Oh and their cheap $1 aisle that sells seasonal stuff. I like going there for Christmas time and buying cheap Christmas decorations for the workplace lol.

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lemm.ee

Why do we hate Target again? No really I'm out of the loop and I'm not reading an article written by a company owned by the Far Right

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Raiderkevreply
lemmy.world

Rolled back DEI initiatives, also caved to conservative pressure about the tuck friendly swimsuit thing and whatever else they were outraged about.

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lemm.ee

Why are people boycotting a company that tried and took a step back due to backlash instead of supporting them when they tried?

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kautaureply
lemmy.world

The article certainly outlines a few reasons:

  1. Target “embraced” the idea of rolling back DEI policies more than many companies, furthering its weird cultish “belonging to the bullseye” internal culture.
  2. Target’s customers are more progressive than Walmart, John Deere, or Ford, so more of them actually care about what the company is doing.
  3. Target previous embraced DEI more than other companies. Them previously doing so and then promptly shedding it seems that their corporate culture is one of quarterly gains rather than giving a shit about anybody. While that’s true for pretty much all publicly traded corporations, see point 2.
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Target throwing themselves at Rainbow Capitalism is one pile of evidence that points at their movement being on the whim of the dollar as opposed to strong corporate ethics

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eestileibreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

I shopped there nearly exclusively because of what they had been doing. Now that they're embracing fascism, I'm not.

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TechAnonreply
lemm.ee

Source on embracing fascism? I jumped from Amazon to Target because Bezos and friends were sitting together at the inauguration.

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They dropped their DEI policies and their initiative to buy from black owned businesses the instant trump was elected.

You're right to boycott Amazon too, obviously, but Target is also complicit.

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lemmynsfw.com

Hive mind, why are we mad at you target? Did a rich asshole make a shitty decision?

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Headlines from capitalist media won't answer these questions. They're too busy crying for Target. Gotta look it up.

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feddit.uk

I suspect you're missing the wood for the trees there - are there any local vendors or farmers markets?

Yes, they are undeniably more expensive, but it is satisfying as fuck paying slightly over the going rate to poke some big company in the eye, even if it is barely felt at the individual level.

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tonylowereply
lemmy.sdf.org

Without sounding accusatory or negative in any way, it’s important to remember that this may be coming from a position of privilege. There are folks who won’t be able to participate in this boycott. It’s for those with the means to do so.

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No I appreciate being checked. It's always good to be given multiple views on things and I appreciate your view. Thank you.

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Well, I wouldn't assume that the local vendors and farmers are less likely to be supporting Trump.

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lemmy.world

Shop at Aldi if you have one locally or Costco.

Aldi is not US based and Costco has been the least evil of the big chains. But definitely Aldi first.

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boycotts dont work, guys. keep trying, though! maybe try something a bit more proactive?

just an idea, maybe you could try recording a video of minecraft gameplay where a 1:1 scale recreation of the white house is destroyed in a fire?

edit: please read my other comment replies before replying, thanks!

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lemmy.world

If you truly believed this, you'd not be here. You'd come here in 40 days to poke fun, but you'd not bother with us because you know that the effect will be zero. That you're here tells me that you, or much more likely your masters because you don't have an original thought in your mind, are afraid that this will actually get momentum and affect Target's stock price and sales figures. Thanks for the vote of confidence! Let's get boycotting!

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here's a question - if you had a friend who was making a mistake, would you try to encourage them to reconsider?

if you think I would poke fun at you, you have absolutely the wrong idea about my motivations. i don't want you to fail, i want you to succeed. i just know that this boycott won't achieve anything, and all of the time and energy put into it will be completely wasted.

i want people to take all of that time and energy and put it towards something that will actually achieve something meaningful. i want people to join a union and find a local activist group, and start actually making connections, building solidarity, and taking collective action that actually will accomplish something!

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bitjunkiereply
lemmy.world

Or maybe you could try having someone proofread your post ideas

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pawb.social

do you genuinely think that i'm wrong? do you truly believe in your heart that a 40 day boycott of a single big box store will help people?

we're literally watching the united states become a fascist dictatorship and you believe that this is an appropriate response?

people are suffering and dying because of us, and we're congratulating ourselves for buying stuff on amazon instead of target for 40 days? seriously?

i don't need a proofreader. i need people to wake up and actually do something, not waste everyone's time and energy with performative bullshit that achieves nothing other than making us feel like we're not doing nothing.

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lemmy.world

Are you saying that boycotts are necessarily performative, or just in certain cases?

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i wouldn't say they're always performative, because there's always nuance. but i would say that they're probably #2 on my list of pointless bullshit that almost never actually achieves anything, right after petitions.

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Jyekreply
sh.itjust.works

Why don't you wake up and do something then if you feel so impassioned? Instead, I see you're wasting your time complaining on an obscure reddit alternative.

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pawb.social

i'm a union officer and rep, and i'm engaged with activism efforts in my area. sometimes i get bored at work and comment on lemmy.

it was easier for you to lash out at me than it was for you to actually seriously engage with what i wrote - that kind of reaction serves the ruling class, and sows division between the working class.

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Jyekreply
sh.itjust.works

You're a union rep discouraging boycott protests? Then you're a bad union rep.

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i'm encouraging people to find an alternative to this boycott, because it will not be effective, and it will take away energy and oxygen from other forms of activism which are much more effective. boycotts and petitions almost universally achieve nothing, and they discourage people from getting involved with real activism.

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pawb.social

yes, it does literally nothing. even if nobody shopped at target ever again it would change absolutely nothing. they'd go into administration, get bought by some other corporation, and possibly rebrand. wealthy people would likely profit from short selling the stock.

target isn't the problem. the problem is the system. you can't change the system by boycotting some random business. i am begging you to do literally any other form of activism. because this aint it.

luigi, now there's a guy with bolder ideas.

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galaxiareply
lemmy.zip

But then why is Canada's whole absolute boycott of everything American gaining traction around the world? Could it be that... when we ALL participate, it actually starts to make them worry?

...nah, couldn't be.

Honestly I used to think like you did, but this time I think if we apply this boycott as a broad stroke to capitalism in general and ONLY shop small or legitimately supportive companies, then it'll STACK with the other actions people take. One thing doesn't happen in a vacuum, and while it may seem small on its own, it adds up.

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firstly, thank you so much for the thoughtful message. reading insightful comments like yours, where it's clear that you're genuinely trying your best to make the world a better place, and you actually think about what i wrote, makes all of the hate i get totally worthwhile.

in my opinion, it's more the unity of the working class, that's what scares them - when we work together, and when we're organized.

that's the biggest flaw with petitions and boycotts, they are all focused on individual action. You don't get together and organize a picket line, you don't get to meet like-minded people, you don't learn about how capitalism affects anyone other than yourself.

i've been involved in activism efforts for a long time now and if we could get just 5% of people who signed a petition to instead get involved with a local activist group, we would have won this fight by now.

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Go do something about it then bitch

If impacting the bottom line if a corporation no longer has any effect then we should just resign ourselves to extinction

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“Yes daddy lick those boots. Go buy $11 eggs and a $40 hdmi cable from target. Mmmm the leather tastes so good”

  • you probably
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Just curious as to why you would want to shop there now because of this boycott? Not judging just curious.

Like it seems you didn’t shop there but now it’s contrarian to do you want to.

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Bremmyreply
lemmy.ml

Conservatives are literally only contrarians. If the left does anything, the right only wants to do the opposite no matter what it is. There is nothing the right will ever do to say "that's a great idea!" Because that's considered losing to them.

"Hey let's give kids free school lunch!" "NO! That makes them only want handouts and the children should work".

They have the mental capacity of a child and it's hurting everyone.

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I wouldn’t want to generalise everybody but I honestly can’t comprehend how anybody would want to act like that.

Like my views are based on what I believe is right and what a society should be based on my morals and not just the opposite of some other people. I find it odd.

I don’t even know if I believe conservatives to be bad people and more I assume they’ve been lied to and it’s hard to get them to see the truth.

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Wilcoreply

He is just trolling. It's a MAGA thing.

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