'Maximally transparent' DOGE now tells federal court its records are 'not subject to FOIA'
Summary
Despite Elon Musk’s claims of “maximal transparency,” the Trump administration now argues that records from DOGE are exempt from Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests.
A court filing states DOGE, rebranded from the U.S. Digital Service, is a "free-standing component" of the Executive Office of the President and falls under the Presidential Records Act.
Watchdog groups have sued, arguing that DOGE’s activities, which involve sweeping access to federal agencies, must be publicly accessible.
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And they'd be right. An unelected billionaire gutting the government and hiding their actions is deep state activity
It’s not deep state, it’s a coup.
Deep? Can Musk and DOGE count as deep state with how new they are to government (if you can call DOGE that)? He's not even from the US, he's so far out he's circled back around to deep state.
Then again, foreign actors blatantly controlling the white house seems to be the trend right now
I think deep state here refers to unelected government officials.
I think more its meaning would be shit that goes on behind the scenes where the public cannot see. Aka… things immune to FOIA requests.
Don't worry. The Dems will start calling them out in the same way ...anytime now.
The Republicans would happily let fElon and Bronzo take a dump in their mouths if they thought some Democrat had to smell it.
It's easy to claim transparency when you lie about everything
He claims transparency, but we see right through him.
He's Mr. Cellophane!
Poop, sex, squish, uh oh, sister-o, pants shits
Every right leaning person I've talked with about this claims "unparalleled transparency" with these guys. What, a bunch of self written social media posts? Full transparency would be detailed reporting that would also we'd have the ability to verify via a third party. What these guys are doing is the equivalent of, "trust me, bro."
For some reason the "do you own research" crowd seems to not be doing that.
Of course not, the bias is strong.
/s
I sometimes think of those redcaps as something out of a sci-fi movie where they take over any normal brain function.
You're just being paranoid. You know what would help? A nice relaxing trip to the brain slug planet where you can lay in the sun with no helmet on.
I still wonder if BrainDead was cancelled not only because of low ratings....even if it was showing a bothsiderist lean at some point. It might have been a bit too much on the nose for the oligarchs' tastes.
Freedom of speech maximalist > no freedom of speech on his platform
Transparency maximalist > no transparency in his agency
Who could have seen that coming?
Don’t forget Tesla lying about many things and saying it’s “free speech” to lie to customers, and being very obstructionist when releasing safety data
"Maximally transparent" in the same sense that Musk is a "free speech absolutist".
His feelings about free speech are very absolute. Absolutely authoritarian. Get back in line and have you papers ready!!
This is what dictators do. Grab power and place it under their control.
Trump will whittle away at the other branches of government until there's nothing left, and then he will say we don't need those other branches since they don't do anything and dissolve them.
This has been played out many times.
No, no, no. You lefties always calling everything fascism. Musk is weeding out government waste and corruption. Trump is donating his entire presidential salary, he's doing this out of the kindness of his heart. You liberals are all so gullible and reactionary. Just calm your pants down, once the taffis go through and we remove the evil migrant criminals it will be infinite money for everyone. Except you commies because you're all too dumb to realize.
I could go on but the McDonalds employee is eyeballing me. They hate it when I use their wifi. It's going to be great when I don't have to do my laundry in their bathroom anymore because I'll have my own 24k gold mansion.
BTW any cuties out there dm me. Just be aware, I want 10 kids so better have a good set of birthing hips.
This could actually be serious until the second paragraph.
Ha! Birthing hips.
🎵It's all in the hips🎵
DOGE’s FOIA exemption is a direct assault on accountability and public trust.
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It's so transparent that you can't even see it.
The corruption is just in your face. I bet "maga" is eating it right the fuck up, too, the idiots, because....libs:owned. Or something.
Some perhaps, but if you look at the videos from recent repug town halls, even maga is pissed. I’m talking reps can’t complete statements due to being drowned out by boos in +30 red districts. There are opportunities here for a real populist party to form if people are able to seize it.
They're still trying to blame it on "bussed in Democrat paid agitators".
Yeah, maybe. The oligarchs have proven themselves quite capable (in the past, anyway) of directing that anger anywhere else but where it should be directed, so I guess we will see.
I'll never get over the pretentious way the Orange Menace poses for the camera. And it makes me want to punch him every time.
He looks like a corpse with poorly done casket makeup
Are we certain this isn't a Weekend at Bernie's situation?
He looks to me like Biff Tannen just got another face-full of manure.
Every picture looks like he’s focusing not shitting himself
Words and law don't work with them.
DOGE isn't breaking the law here, they're abusing loopholes. We have to acknowledge the law isn't working for us and shut the loopholes.
It's not even loopholes, it's just farce. Substitute in fascist for anti-Semite. The only difference here is that the judges that matter are going to play along with the wordplay.
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past." -Jean Paul Sartre
You can dislike what they're saying, that doesn't mean it isn't true.
"Your honor I'm not subject to that law under the clause I said so." Judges love hearing that.
Judges also love not flying out of windows.
Name one judge that has flown out of a window
uint8_t transparency = 255;...
transparency++;Prolly can't figure out where and how the shit is stored.
I've seen a setup once, involving airflow, pgsql with a few different databases for different systems, a few CSV and Excel files stored on webdav shares, a few ETL scripts, some not working, in a weird graph, and a Microstrategy instance used to view a report or two resulting from that.
That was probably a job safety mechanism of the leaving data analyst, though. I'm not sure how such chaos could have been created on purpose and other things he did seemed very clean.
Or they just don't want to and are arguing the definition of "agency"
Kafka couldn't even think something like this up.
Normally I'd say "that's not how it works" but given the shit we've seen it might in fact work
That photo is perfect, they both look completely ridiculous (well, more so than usual).
Isn't that for the courts to decide?
The ones he ignores and the ones overriden by a higher court with the reasoning "we'll get around to looking at what the courts already said was illegal.". The Supreme Court basically just kneecapped the entire Judicial branch by implying the courts rulings don't matter unless they come from the SC.
Well, yes, this was a court filling. DOGE attorneys make their case, opposing council makes their case, and the judge/jury decides. It's just that DOGE attorneys filed a statement that directly contradicts public statements (to the surprise of no one).
Does Elon Musk even own a suit?
I was so sad to hear that Zelensky said the Ukrainian word for suit, costume sounded like such a great jab at that pompous ass "reporter"
Yeah, one made from Dalmatian puppies.
He's afraid we will kill him but he keeps doing that kind of shit
What gives you the impression that he’s afraid of that? Pretty sure he thinks he’s a god or something.
His
human meat shieldchildGods can bleed.