Is this the end of USPS?
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No. It’s in our Constitution. It can’t be whisked away unless it is approved through Congress.
You have more confidence than I in the Constitution at this point.
Who said I had confidence?
You said "no", like the constitution would prevent the end of USPS.
It does, unless Congress changes law in our current system.
I think the states would have to agree to it first, wouldn’t they? Congress can’t unilaterally modify the Constitution (thank Christ).
I think there needs to be a senate & congress vote AND a majority of states need to ratify the amendment after which the Supreme court does a review.
Elon Musk and Donald Trump are so out of touch with the basic American citizen today that I’m sure they think the Postal Service is the organization that puts up road signs and highway barriers or something
I’m not sure a Supreme Court review is an official part of the process—the SC can review the constitutionality of ordinary laws, but amendments are constitutional by definition.
Wouldn’t the Supreme Court need to review to make sure 1 new amendment doesn’t include wording that conflicts with other amendments thought? Just asking, not sure about any of these, in fact I cannot even remember any amendment ratified after the Women’s right to vote in the 1920s.
No, by definition a Constitutional Amendment would be part of the Constitution. All branches of government derive their authority from the Constitution. Simply put, the Constitution is above SCOTUS.
The Supreme Court can intercede if the process for ratification is not followed, but as long as the agreed upon process is followed there is literally nothing a judge could do.
Don't challenge him, he will EO it and nobody will challenge it so it will become real.
You're right about it not going anywhere, but its because Amazon uses USPS as a subcontractor to deliver packages that they can't deliver reliably. Not because any of the current administration give a shit about the Constitution or what it has to say about the USPS.
It can be systematically deconstructed and defunded until it no longer works and is non-functional and frustrating to use and then that used as an excuse to eliminate it.
It can't be defunded as it's not funded in the first place.
Brother, than can always drain it even more.
THis is why they need to recognize it's not a business but a service; like highways and criminal courts.
I agree that it's a service and should be recognized as such, but why is that why?
If anything the fact that they have to earn their own revenue makes them more like a business than any other part of the Goverment. In fact that has long been part of the legal argument keeping them seperated from other entities and related laws.
Where in our law does it say they can’t? I don’t like our situation and that it is possible.
Look, we get it: felons CAN run for president because it would otherwise be a way to prevent one's opponents from winning elections. It's a rule that protects us against a cheap tactic.
And then it was weaponized.
That's what Aeternum is - I think - trying to say. I think it's the opinion that convicted felons shouldn't get to lead the country; but those still on trial may. Still, for some, this isn't good enough, and for me this is already too much.
Maybe carve out a rule that bars FUCKING TRAITORS stealing secrets, hiding secrets, and frustrating criminal investigation with co-conspirator help - hey, ma, look: a clear conspiracy to contravene national security! - from ever holding office. That's so specific it'll probably only affect Don2 and other swamp people.
Yes they can. There's no law saying that. Nobody ever thought it would need to become a law.
Fire all the Trump supporters first. There are a lot of them.
Yeah… their team won. The idea that Trump voters will be ousted first is more fantastical than an actual day dream.
That's like rebuilding a forest with a match.
You
I don't recommend it if things have to live there during the process.
Told my republican dad that Trump is gonna cut the USPS. He was basically like "no way jose, there's no way he will do that"
It feels like the only silver lining to all of this bullshit is the amount of I Told You So's that are piling up on the table.
No it'll be the re-privatization of mail.
Do you think that's a good thing?
I feel like plebs who like the idea of privatizing the USPS (for the sake of “saving money” and therefore not having to pay for a service they “don’t need”) are the same folk who by definition of supporting the orange turd also like the idea of raising taxes for themselves and the majority of the US population to then give to the rich (but of course if they’re in the tax bracket where they make so much to get the tax break then fuck them).
It’s fine if they want to flaunt their brand of crazy but at least make it make sense.
People like you never cease to amaze me with the sheer volume of exudate that comes out of your mouths.
I'm sorry friend. I urge you to continue to support the USPS and not give the capitalists your money.
I'm in the opposite situation, FedEx is fucking inept here.
Damn. UPS doesn't even bother getting the package to the right street for me.
Thank DeJoy. Slowing down and degrading service was by design.
I was talking about UPS, not USPS. Although there has been a noticeable slowdown in mail delivery since that particular scumbag was given control.