I just leave you with my favorite quote of Ljdawson, made during the reddit api war:
"I don't know. I don't track shit."
He has crashlytics. That's about it.
Tbh, I don't care for open or closed source, I don't even care for free or payed. (19 bucks per year.. That's like what, a coffee and a donut at a Starbuck?)
Stuff must just work and to be honest... All available clients all work sort of.
This one does this good but sucks at multi instances. That one screws up gifs from that and this site. Made an error typing your user name!/password during setup? Tough shit. You can't edit it so redo from start, remove it and type well this time.
Sync just seems to work.
That's not to shit on anyone hard work: I can't do it, I can't make them, I'm glad these clients exist. I don't expect free tools to be perfect.
But I'm also superglad Sync for lemmy is a thing. And I will pay for it when it's out of beta.
Sync not only works. It's the smoothest App I have on my phone. The animations and transitions are just beautiful, well timed and do not stutter even a tiny bit. I wish all android apps were like Sync. I'll gladly pay whatever he charges.
Didn't I read the current version does not allow you to post? I feel its pretty weird to release an app in that state and still keep ads in it.
But if you are happy paying and using that, more power to you! Meanwhile I save that money and use one of the many open source clients that actually work.
Sync is fantastic, and I've used it for years. But I'll be sticking with Thunder. Its UI is close, and I'm able to contribute the things I want to change.
I wonder if it was because of the backlash from being subscription only? I was surprised by how many angry posts there were. I gotta admit even I was disappointed. I don't mind paying for a pro version. But a subscriptions a bit of an ask, as I don't need the features offered by it, but I do like sync and Lawrence is a good guy.
They are talking about the remove ads option. It's a one time purchase just to remove ads with none of the additional features of the subscription. As I understand it.
I say this as someone who is probably one of the biggest supporters of software-freedom around here, but bullying or shaming people for preferring non-free apps does nothing but incite resentment towards the movement. I value the four freedoms because I think I deserve control of my computing, not because I think it's my place to dictate what others should value.
I don't understand the bitching about it, we users were asking for this, it is the good thing about Lemmy/Fediverse, you have tons of options, and probably will have more, heck even the PWA are awesome, no need to download anything at all.
You have to accept to being tracked by Google, having an advertising id, all the data Firebase collects. Their ToS is large.
Users were asking for it, that's true. I guess users don't really care about being tracked, allowing google into their phone and indirectly supporting them controlling the web, thus enabling them to do things like manifest v3 or the web integrity API.
Ads? understandable, the dev has bills to pay. Not open source? Purists may hate it, but not the end of the world. Tracking? Google? No thanks, the beautiful design is not worth it.
Sync is a perfectly fine app for me. I tried all other apps and nowhere near to sync. I don't even have ads on the free version as I am using dns ad blocker. The moment one time payment for removing ads is out(it is coming), I will buy it. Or I will donate to dev in some other way as I am not a fan of subscriptions.
What client I use doesn't affect your experience. I and lots of others are reddit refugees and I used sync for years. I'm ecstatic to have the interface back.
Bullshit gatekeeping and bickering over ideological purity doesn't help anyone. At the end of the day, lemmy is confusing for someone accustomed to reddit. There is a learning curve. Most of us just want to exchange info and converse. I don't give a fuck to learn about FOSS and all that other bullshit any more than any of you want to learn the specialized minutiae I have to sift through at my day job.
Shut the fuck up already. This sort of discourse lands like a bunch of shitty kids meeting at a half empty bar all criticizing how one another got there
what's the point of judging? Sync is the only app so far that has full, thoughtful support for foldable phones and the dev genuinely has been putting in a lot of work into it. I bought the No Ads IAP and I'm perfectly happy with it, but there are so many good options now for those that want something completely free.
Because the open source community has been full of a bunch of people who built whole personalities on shitting on anything not FOSS. And even though they now have an opportunity to bring a lot more people into the community than before they'd rather play these stupid arrogant superiority games instead of just letting people enjoy things how they want to enjoy them.
Cause FOSS people are worse than vegans. It's like Linux users but infinitely worse.
FOSS ≠ better or good. Most of the FOSS Lemmy apps are usability nightmares right now. The only reason I was using jerboa for so long is because sync wasn't out yet
FOSS apps often suffer from mediocre UX/UI since the expected audience are power users, but it alienates users that aren't. They're functional for those who need it, yes, but is the GUI high quality? More often than not, they aren't.
I'm not saying FOSS can't have bad UI, like Blender for example, but those are the exception, not the rule.
For me, Connect and Thunder are getting there, but they don't have the same level of quality and finesse as Sync. Though to be fair, Sync has a decade of work put into it.
do you really have a hard time understanding how different people have different preferences and how familiarity works or do you just like being smug?
as for "trackers" and ads you will find that unless they are intrusive about 99% of the population doesn't give a fuck, even on a fairly niche site like lemmy the majority won't give a fuck.
I love FOSS but I got pretty used to the official reddit app, and Sync is the only app that feels like if the reddit app wasn't buggy and laggy. The paid aspect doesn't bother me because I would have donated to whatever app I use anyway, at $5/mo the $20 one time ad removal option makes sense if I use it for more than 4 months so it's worth it to me.
I just installed Sync after browsing with Jerboa for the past month. Sync has such a clean, smooth look that if it functions even remotely consistently it'll be my new replacement.
I'm soooo happy to be done with Jerboa... Haven't uninstalled it yet but it's such a buggy piece of crap compared to Sync so it's only a matter of time til I do.
I used sync for reddit for years, I had no ads in the free version and the pro version. I've tried a half dozen apps for Lemmy since my Reddexit. Sync for Lemmy is far and away the best. I really missed its design. I was happy to toss $20 to you for no ads on Sync for Lemmy. Thanks for all the hard work.
Look, I feel bad for what happened to you (I stood up against the whole ‘pop up’ thing from the start btw, even as a Lifetime Ultra sub) but that doesn’t negate how good Apollo was.
Voyager, as good as it is, just doesn’t cut it for me.
Why can't I just use the service that has a design I like?
I wouldn't have used reddit if it wasn't for sync and that same logic applies to lemmy. Adoption is critical for lemmy to succeed so please tone it down a bit, unless having the same 2 dozen people in your community was your personal appealing feature of lemmy.
Anyone can choose to install whatever software they choose on their device, but the "free" in free software specifically refers to the freedom to read and modify the source code.
Under the philosophy of the FOSS movement, all proprietary software are by definition unethical.
Since Lemmy and the larger fediverse is the choice for many free software advocates, it's natural that you see this kind of backlash when fundamentally unethical software to interact with it is released.
I have always preferred Infinity when I was using Reddit. But right now Infinity for Lemmy seems to be not in a usable state. I have been using Thunder For Lemmy as of recently, not sure if I will switch from it to Infinity for Lemmy once its in a more usable state.
Edit: I can't even use Sync for Lemmy as on the Play Store it says its unavailable on my device. I have a Samsung Galaxy s23 Ultra. One would think that it would be available considering its pretty much this years flagship of the largest Android brand.
Edit 2: It seems to not be because of the device itself @[email protected] seems to have been able to download it on their s23 Ultra.
Edit 3: It was because of Age Verification. I can now download it fine.
I like how the Fediverse doesn't pull that bullshit. I've been on the internet since the days of dialup and the "appification" of websites is such obvious garbage. Like sure, I want to run a program coded by McDonalds on my pocket computer, that sounds legit.
Speak for yourself, but Infinity really isn't as well made as Sync. I'd rather pay one time for a quality experience and support the developer. Also, no ads in the paid version.
I've been jumping around trying 4-5 clients since the Reddit Exodus and all of them had some really anything bug.
Voyager is the one that in my opinion is the best one feature and stability wise.
However, voyager if giving me one big headache in the form of going totally black if I swap over to fx read an email. I don't care if you're my Firefox needing things up. I'm not going to opt in even more in Google Surveillance just because Voyager is open source.
Sync for Reddit was my whole Reddit experience for the last 7-8 years. I think I tried a majority of the clients and Sync totally wiped the floor with the other clients in my opinion. Both in new features and stability.
I use Windows and several dists on a daily basis. I have an Android phone and I truly like the philosophy behind open source... With that said.... Competition is great. We'll see what Sync for Lemmy can bring to the table.
If it is as good as sync for Reddit was the other clients have to shape up and it's us, the users, that will benefit.
I bought Sync Pro for Reddit, and I'll do the same for Lemmy. Open-source can suck a butt, I'm willing to pay for a well made app
Edit: lmao the replies! To be clear, I am not talking shit on open source software, the "open source can go suck a butt" comment was in reference to taking the time to get used to a new app when I don't have to 😝 Go touch grass. Sync treated me well, I'm willing to pay the creator to have that same experience on Lemmy. That's it. Stop being defensive, go for a walk.
Tried Sync today, it's fancy in terms of design and customization; I can see the appeal. But I think I'll stick with Connect because it's straight forward and easy to use out of the box.
I think for me, I've used sync for reddit since like '15. So coming to lemmy with sync... Its like coming home. I've tried connect and liftoff though, and like both.
After using Sync for so long and having it set up just so other apps feel janky, through no fault of their own. I have it set up very information dense with amoled dark theme and colorful comment indents. I could kind of look over theme issues, but the interaction just felt off.
Connect was what I was using, though, and I preferred it over wefwef/Voyager which had a less wasteful feeling UI to me.
I'm sure it is, but until the live version has single payment, I won't consider the switch. Even then, I don't use Lemmy half as much as I used Reddit, so I won't pay the same amount I paid for Reddit.
Just updated, not seeing the option anywhere. Would you mind saying where it is, I still just see an option for Ultra subscription for payment. I may be blind.
I am looking forward to the lifetime payment, yeah. Is Sync made by a single dev? I don't know anything about this app aside from everyone clamoring for the team to make a Lemmy-compatible version.
I also find myself using Lemmy less than Reddit but I'm hoping as we discover and tailor our feeds with more fitting communities then it'll naturally become a healthy replacement. It took me like 10 years to curate my reddit algorithm.
Well it's pretty damn cool for a single dev then, I'm impressed. I like the idea of giving money to a talented dev and not to reddit, too, so that feels nice.
For me sadly Jerboa stability has gotten worse since the contributions 🥲
There's been lots of nice new features introduced, however one persistent bug where the UI doesn't know what I'm tapping occurs after a couple mins of use, and only an app restart fixes it.
I want to like the other apps, but so far I like my broken Jerboa more
Yeah, tried sync since that was my reddit app of choice but the ads and tracking just forced me to uninstall it. Trying thunder now and it seems pretty good
Infinity won't let me log in. So far I'm really liking Sync. And I'm completely fine with a subscription at it's current price. I'm happy to support devs. 8 don't like working for free. Not sure why they should have to. And so it's either ads or subscriptions. Pick your poison.
One time payments would be great, but the devs make a lot more from subscriptions. You don't see services like Netflix or Hulu offering one time payments options. As a consumer, I love it, but the devs might not be able to sustain the app from that model. I'd be interested if you have any other ideas though.
I’m happy to support devs. 8 don’t like working for free. Not sure why they should have to. And so it’s either ads or subscriptions.
In other words, if you don't pay a subscription or see ads, the developer gets no money at all. You're using the app "for free."
Now you're saying that it's not "for free," just not enough to make a living. And what's more, you're using a mere suspicion to justify your very confident insistence that we need to "pick our poison," and that a one-time purchase is just not an option.
Basically, my point is that you need to choose what point you want to make and stick with it, because your argument has changed dramatically in the course of just two comments.
Navigate to the Releases tab. You'll find every app versions released by the dev. In the bottom of each version there is a Download section, click the file with .apk and install it manually on your phone
I am liking most apps in some way. I keep switching between many. And also each of the apps are in active development.
Currenly using: Summit, Thunder, Liftoff, Sync, Voyager.
I guess Voyager is also planning for a native app for both Android and iOS
I'm using Connect, Sync and Infinity. Sync is the most polished but Connect is very close. Connect let's you post as well as reply whereas Sync and Infinity only let you reply.
you know, you can block ads on Android. add as many trackers as you want, NextDNS will just sinkhole them 🤷♂️ it works just like PiHole. Adguard is good too. no need for any subscription.
I've tried all the clients that I could get my hands on and Voyager (vger.app) is what I've settled on. Awesome UI, lightweight web app, frequent updates.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: ![email protected]
Thank you! Just installed the APK. I was a sync pro user but the way the dev is handling Lemmy is disappointing with the ads, tracking and subscription only.
I just leave you with my favorite quote of Ljdawson, made during the reddit api war:
"I don't know. I don't track shit."
He has crashlytics. That's about it.
Tbh, I don't care for open or closed source, I don't even care for free or payed. (19 bucks per year.. That's like what, a coffee and a donut at a Starbuck?)
Stuff must just work and to be honest... All available clients all work sort of.
This one does this good but sucks at multi instances. That one screws up gifs from that and this site. Made an error typing your user name!/password during setup? Tough shit. You can't edit it so redo from start, remove it and type well this time.
Sync just seems to work.
That's not to shit on anyone hard work: I can't do it, I can't make them, I'm glad these clients exist. I don't expect free tools to be perfect.
But I'm also superglad Sync for lemmy is a thing. And I will pay for it when it's out of beta.
Sync not only works. It's the smoothest App I have on my phone. The animations and transitions are just beautiful, well timed and do not stutter even a tiny bit. I wish all android apps were like Sync. I'll gladly pay whatever he charges.
And that is why I've used it for all these years. There are no weird quirks, it just does exactly what I need it to do.
I noticed that, this happens when I set comment sort to Top. Works fine when set to Hot. Still in beta, they'll hopefully fix it.
Had that one as well. Makes reading posts with many comments almost impossible. Let's hope it gets fixed soon.
I think they meant the old Sync. This one is in beta and bugs are still expected.
This was fixed in the latest update.
Yeah I assumed the ad tracking was mostly Google's own doing, or whatever ad provider that hes using for injected ads.
Didn't I read the current version does not allow you to post? I feel its pretty weird to release an app in that state and still keep ads in it.
But if you are happy paying and using that, more power to you! Meanwhile I save that money and use one of the many open source clients that actually work.
I'm posting from it right now. The ads don't seem to work through. I'm not blocking any but I've not seen one yet.
That sounds better then, thanks for clearing that up.
Sync is fantastic, and I've used it for years. But I'll be sticking with Thunder. Its UI is close, and I'm able to contribute the things I want to change.
You do you, but for me personally, the only honest software in existence is software willing to disclose it's source code.
Sync is fucking fantastic, just how I remember. I don't mind at all paying for a great app by a talented dev.
The pro version is supposed to be out later, and will just be a one-time payment unlike ultra's subscription
The lifetime purchase to remove ads is up. It's a bit pricey but I can understand why, Lemmy has a smaller userbase. Totally worth it.
I wonder if it was because of the backlash from being subscription only? I was surprised by how many angry posts there were. I gotta admit even I was disappointed. I don't mind paying for a pro version. But a subscriptions a bit of an ask, as I don't need the features offered by it, but I do like sync and Lawrence is a good guy.
No ads for 20 bucks isn't bad as an alternative if you don't need the features
Yeah, he didnt have that option when I first installed it. Went ahead and grabbed that.
Are you talking about sync ultra or is there another ad free purchase? Ultra life time costs 120 usd, which is too much for me
There's the remove ads option, which is not a subscription to anything. It's $20.
They are talking about the remove ads option. It's a one time purchase just to remove ads with none of the additional features of the subscription. As I understand it.
Yeah if you just click 'remove ads' on the sidebar it's $20 for lifetime I believe
Same here. The latest update has the "remove ads" option added for a one time 12.99 fee.
15€ here.
Wtf why does mine say €21.99???
Same here in France 21.99€
€22.99 here 🙃
It feels so random.
About 20 EUR for me.
There are just as good apps that do not track for shit.
Plus not accounting for a previous purchase is a final nail in the coffin for me. Most likely impossible to implement, but still stings.
$34 dollarydoos here 🦘
Are you sure that's not the lifetime for ultra? There's a new one time "remove ads" option.
Yes I'm sure. Ultra is only available annually or monthly. Annually it's $28 here
Edit: I stand corrected. Just got the new update with ultra lifetime as an option. That's $170 though.
Wow. I hope that's some sort of mistake.
It's $99 USD, think you all are seeing a bug.
Edit: I misunderstood which option was being discussed.
Wrong country?
Not seeing it, I just see an Ultra subscription, where is the one time no ad option?
Make sure you update the app. It just showed up for me about an hour ago.
I just found it, scroll to the top and click the Lemmy logo top left, under account switcher and above sync ultra
20 bucks here
Same, I'm paying for the ultra subscription. But I understand if someone is using another app, Connect is pretty good. I'm just an old dog
Its not about the money but about the software freedom and source transparency
I say this as someone who is probably one of the biggest supporters of software-freedom around here, but bullying or shaming people for preferring non-free apps does nothing but incite resentment towards the movement. I value the four freedoms because I think I deserve control of my computing, not because I think it's my place to dictate what others should value.
I used Sync for almost the full 11 years on Reddit and will gladly support the dev on Lemmy.
Same. Sync was the only way I accessed Reddit since 2012.
You understand the feeling I have today using it. Feels so good.
I don't understand the bitching about it, we users were asking for this, it is the good thing about Lemmy/Fediverse, you have tons of options, and probably will have more, heck even the PWA are awesome, no need to download anything at all.
People like to bitch
Remind me of that meme where the person is complaining about the thing, gets the thing and then has the frowny face.
You have to accept to being tracked by Google, having an advertising id, all the data Firebase collects. Their ToS is large.
Users were asking for it, that's true. I guess users don't really care about being tracked, allowing google into their phone and indirectly supporting them controlling the web, thus enabling them to do things like manifest v3 or the web integrity API.
Ads? understandable, the dev has bills to pay. Not open source? Purists may hate it, but not the end of the world. Tracking? Google? No thanks, the beautiful design is not worth it.
Many of us were sync users who came over because of the api changes. Don't care about tracking.
One time payment is there. Someone confirmed that there is no connection to Google after paying the one time payment.
I will admit I never knew any of this
Sync is a perfectly fine app for me. I tried all other apps and nowhere near to sync. I don't even have ads on the free version as I am using dns ad blocker. The moment one time payment for removing ads is out(it is coming), I will buy it. Or I will donate to dev in some other way as I am not a fan of subscriptions.
I have the option to remove ads in Sync right now. =)
Yeah, this shit is getting old really quickly.
What client I use doesn't affect your experience. I and lots of others are reddit refugees and I used sync for years. I'm ecstatic to have the interface back.
Bullshit gatekeeping and bickering over ideological purity doesn't help anyone. At the end of the day, lemmy is confusing for someone accustomed to reddit. There is a learning curve. Most of us just want to exchange info and converse. I don't give a fuck to learn about FOSS and all that other bullshit any more than any of you want to learn the specialized minutiae I have to sift through at my day job.
Shut the fuck up already. This sort of discourse lands like a bunch of shitty kids meeting at a half empty bar all criticizing how one another got there
what's the point of judging? Sync is the only app so far that has full, thoughtful support for foldable phones and the dev genuinely has been putting in a lot of work into it. I bought the No Ads IAP and I'm perfectly happy with it, but there are so many good options now for those that want something completely free.
Because the open source community has been full of a bunch of people who built whole personalities on shitting on anything not FOSS. And even though they now have an opportunity to bring a lot more people into the community than before they'd rather play these stupid arrogant superiority games instead of just letting people enjoy things how they want to enjoy them.
Right? No need for the smugposting
Cause FOSS people are worse than vegans. It's like Linux users but infinitely worse.
FOSS ≠ better or good. Most of the FOSS Lemmy apps are usability nightmares right now. The only reason I was using jerboa for so long is because sync wasn't out yet
FOSS apps often suffer from mediocre UX/UI since the expected audience are power users, but it alienates users that aren't. They're functional for those who need it, yes, but is the GUI high quality? More often than not, they aren't.
I'm not saying FOSS can't have bad UI, like Blender for example, but those are the exception, not the rule.
For me, Connect and Thunder are getting there, but they don't have the same level of quality and finesse as Sync. Though to be fair, Sync has a decade of work put into it.
Bro you're smugposting rn
Hahaha with you 100% there
Saying something at the end of your rant doesn't preclude anyone from responding to you.
Your post? Your comment?
Congrats on being insufferable, bud.
Please, stop, don't.
do you really have a hard time understanding how different people have different preferences and how familiarity works or do you just like being smug?
as for "trackers" and ads you will find that unless they are intrusive about 99% of the population doesn't give a fuck, even on a fairly niche site like lemmy the majority won't give a fuck.
And you're absolutely right. I'm here to stand with you on that.
Teenagers are the worst
I love FOSS but I got pretty used to the official reddit app, and Sync is the only app that feels like if the reddit app wasn't buggy and laggy. The paid aspect doesn't bother me because I would have donated to whatever app I use anyway, at $5/mo the $20 one time ad removal option makes sense if I use it for more than 4 months so it's worth it to me.
I just installed Sync after browsing with Jerboa for the past month. Sync has such a clean, smooth look that if it functions even remotely consistently it'll be my new replacement.
I'm soooo happy to be done with Jerboa... Haven't uninstalled it yet but it's such a buggy piece of crap compared to Sync so it's only a matter of time til I do.
Check out all the UI options. The customization is really awesome, even if it's a little confusing at times. The search box in options helps.
I lasted half a day with Jerboa, it really didn't work for me. Connect has kept me happy since though.
Just tried Sync. It's like a better Connect.
I'm waiting for Infinity, but I'll try sync in the mean time.
Fun fact, me and Clarkson are both from Donny:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doncaster
I used sync for reddit for years, I had no ads in the free version and the pro version. I've tried a half dozen apps for Lemmy since my Reddexit. Sync for Lemmy is far and away the best. I really missed its design. I was happy to toss $20 to you for no ads on Sync for Lemmy. Thanks for all the hard work.
I drove through it once, looked rough as shit.
Good job you didn't stop
Nice, I have family in Nottinghamshire.
Also, is your .ml or .world your main instance? The .world seems to have the biggest audience
.world is
Imagine Apollo for Lemmy 😮💨
i'm using memmy (iOs) ! works very good, and it feels nostalgic since they tried their best to... be inspired by apollo 😄
They have added the blue jump button. It makes it hard to upvote comments at the bottom, but love that it is there.
You can hide it in settings—>appearance
You can hide the button, but my favourite way to upvote comments/posts is by swiping a bit to the right!
And if you deep-swipe to the right it will downvote.
I love Memmy for Lemmy!
My gf installed that one yesterday, but I think it does not have an option to mark as read posts while you scroll, hide read posts?
I couldn't even see if the read posts were dimmed.
It does in TestFlight. In fact, it has several options for marking read and works great.
Wait, so the App store version is just a dumbed one version?
No, it’s just behind the dev builds. Lots of new features have been delivered lately and will be pushed to the App Store soon.
Good to know, thanks.
All "hide read posts" options are here!
In Settings -> Content -> Hide Read Posts .
edit: to clarify, i have the 0.5 version. i'll update to 0.5.1 now.
That's Voyager.
Which is also coming for Android!
💪
i’d love a native version since brave keeps resetting voyager every 2 or 3 days
Just keep waiting mate!
Yeah no, Apollo was native, Vogager isn't
Native already incoming and PWA works awesome.
except it's not, because Voyager is React and comes with all the baggage that using React brings.
Native clients all the way.
Works great as PWA, and Voyager is already coming native.
Hopefully the dev changes his mind about not creating an app for lemmy
Voyager isn’t as good as Apollo though.
Well I had Ultra, so it was just straight-up better for me 🤷
Look, I feel bad for what happened to you (I stood up against the whole ‘pop up’ thing from the start btw, even as a Lifetime Ultra sub) but that doesn’t negate how good Apollo was.
Voyager, as good as it is, just doesn’t cut it for me.
Oh. Well, I never got a Tildes invite so it doesn’t matter to me lul
Why can't I just use the service that has a design I like?
I wouldn't have used reddit if it wasn't for sync and that same logic applies to lemmy. Adoption is critical for lemmy to succeed so please tone it down a bit, unless having the same 2 dozen people in your community was your personal appealing feature of lemmy.
How about instead we respect everyone's decisions and preferences? Free as in freedom, is that not what the Open Source community is about?
That's how I've always read this meme format. It literally says the non-preferred option is still brilliant.
Sure, but when people are excited about something, they're going to trash-talk. It's healthy to have the freedom of debate these choices.
Anyone can choose to install whatever software they choose on their device, but the "free" in free software specifically refers to the freedom to read and modify the source code.
Under the philosophy of the FOSS movement, all proprietary software are by definition unethical.
Since Lemmy and the larger fediverse is the choice for many free software advocates, it's natural that you see this kind of backlash when fundamentally unethical software to interact with it is released.
Does this meme make you feel disrespected? Why?
Y'all gotta stop shitting on non-FOSS Lemmy apps.
Lemmy is Lemmy, let people access the platform how they want to. It doesn't affect you. Don't use Sync if you don't want to.
I have always preferred Infinity when I was using Reddit. But right now Infinity for Lemmy seems to be not in a usable state. I have been using Thunder For Lemmy as of recently, not sure if I will switch from it to Infinity for Lemmy once its in a more usable state.
Edit: I can't even use Sync for Lemmy as on the Play Store it says its unavailable on my device. I have a Samsung Galaxy s23 Ultra. One would think that it would be available considering its pretty much this years flagship of the largest Android brand.
Edit 2: It seems to not be because of the device itself @[email protected] seems to have been able to download it on their s23 Ultra.
Edit 3: It was because of Age Verification. I can now download it fine.
Lemmy is fun is what I want
Upvoted on infinity
Liftoff is where its at
Amen.
I like connect too, so far it is the only that property display gif avatars and gif in comments
I mean, Sync does show gifs in comments properly.
Takeoff does it too
Is connect open source?
You guys are using apps?
-posted from my browser
Posted from my browser which is technically an app...
I like how the Fediverse doesn't pull that bullshit. I've been on the internet since the days of dialup and the "appification" of websites is such obvious garbage. Like sure, I want to run a program coded by McDonalds on my pocket computer, that sounds legit.
Speak for yourself, but Infinity really isn't as well made as Sync. I'd rather pay one time for a quality experience and support the developer. Also, no ads in the paid version.
Fuck yeah baby. Infinity ftw!
Sauce if you don't have it: https://codeberg.org/Bazsalanszky/Infinity-For-Lemmy
Am I blind or is there no APK? I need to get on the computer and build this?
You can download an apk from the releases page.
Thanks I found the defect. That bar where releases resides is a horizontal scrolling bar. Viewing on mobile this wasn't obvious.
Oh my fucking God, thank you! I feel like home again
I've been jumping around trying 4-5 clients since the Reddit Exodus and all of them had some really anything bug. Voyager is the one that in my opinion is the best one feature and stability wise. However, voyager if giving me one big headache in the form of going totally black if I swap over to fx read an email. I don't care if you're my Firefox needing things up. I'm not going to opt in even more in Google Surveillance just because Voyager is open source.
Sync for Reddit was my whole Reddit experience for the last 7-8 years. I think I tried a majority of the clients and Sync totally wiped the floor with the other clients in my opinion. Both in new features and stability.
I use Windows and several dists on a daily basis. I have an Android phone and I truly like the philosophy behind open source... With that said.... Competition is great. We'll see what Sync for Lemmy can bring to the table. If it is as good as sync for Reddit was the other clients have to shape up and it's us, the users, that will benefit.
This message was created with Sync for Lemmy.
I bought Sync Pro for Reddit, and I'll do the same for Lemmy. Open-source can suck a butt, I'm willing to pay for a well made app
Edit: lmao the replies! To be clear, I am not talking shit on open source software, the "open source can go suck a butt" comment was in reference to taking the time to get used to a new app when I don't have to 😝 Go touch grass. Sync treated me well, I'm willing to pay the creator to have that same experience on Lemmy. That's it. Stop being defensive, go for a walk.
Infinity was my fav for Reddit, def would love to try a Lemmy alternative
https://codeberg.org/Bazsalanszky/Infinity-For-Lemmy/releases
Ok now I see the reason for the post, why I didn't see this before?
The only one thing that I missed from reddit was Infinity, now I feel complete.
Thanks! I'll prob wait till a non-early access version releases, pretty happy with Voyager for now
Apologies in advance for the dumb question, but it's not yet ready for download right? Or am I missing something?
Go to releases. This is in the bar where you also find the issues
Or use Obtainium to automatically install and update it.
Edit: Updates the link
Oh my God, thank you so much!! Responding on Infinity now.
I'm github illiterate but I loved Infinity so this is huge for me!
Just realized it's not even github so I may be illiterate in more ways than I thought.
Tried Sync today, it's fancy in terms of design and customization; I can see the appeal. But I think I'll stick with Connect because it's straight forward and easy to use out of the box.
I think for me, I've used sync for reddit since like '15. So coming to lemmy with sync... Its like coming home. I've tried connect and liftoff though, and like both.
After using Sync for so long and having it set up just so other apps feel janky, through no fault of their own. I have it set up very information dense with amoled dark theme and colorful comment indents. I could kind of look over theme issues, but the interaction just felt off.
Connect was what I was using, though, and I preferred it over wefwef/Voyager which had a less wasteful feeling UI to me.
doesn't seem like I can get it on the playstore (infinity for lemmy, I mean)
Liftoff is pretty good!
It's in pre release testing. You can find links in comments
You have to side load infinity.
Is Infinity fully compatible with foldables and tablets? Sync even has tabs for open posts (like a browser) when it's opened in tablet mode
I am using both, Sync feels more polished for now.
im on infinity for the first time rn and this is the second post i see lol
i had been using infinity for reddit for a few years before... the incident... it is absolutely the best
I loved Infinity for reddit, too, but I'm kind of squeamish about installing pre-release code on my phone. I'll wait until it's out of beta.
Wait, infinity if coming to Lemmy?
inofficially, yes someone started porting it to lemmy
That's amazing, thanks for mentioning it.
Liftoff is opensource
Picked up Jerboa when I made the switch to Lemmy. Now I won't be returning to Sync. No way in hell I'm paying a subscription.
As a Jerboa user who just started using Sync, I can honestly say it's really fucking slick. Like really slick.
I'm sure it is, but until the live version has single payment, I won't consider the switch. Even then, I don't use Lemmy half as much as I used Reddit, so I won't pay the same amount I paid for Reddit.
They already added the one-time payment to remove ads
One time payment option was just added.
Just updated, not seeing the option anywhere. Would you mind saying where it is, I still just see an option for Ultra subscription for payment. I may be blind.
Tap the Lemmy mouse icon at the top left, should be there.
I am looking forward to the lifetime payment, yeah. Is Sync made by a single dev? I don't know anything about this app aside from everyone clamoring for the team to make a Lemmy-compatible version.
I also find myself using Lemmy less than Reddit but I'm hoping as we discover and tailor our feeds with more fitting communities then it'll naturally become a healthy replacement. It took me like 10 years to curate my reddit algorithm.
Yes Sync is developed by a single Dev.
Well it's pretty damn cool for a single dev then, I'm impressed. I like the idea of giving money to a talented dev and not to reddit, too, so that feels nice.
It does have single payment. You can pay once to remove the ads. The subscription is for a bunch of bonus features.
He's said there's plans for a lifetime option in the future. So just be the same as having Sync Pro.
Sync already feels far more polished than jerboa or connect in my opinion.
Jerboa is useless crap in comparison. Also Sync is free if you're on with ads.
Not the same kind of free. Jerboa is free w/ no strings. Which makes ads "crap by comparison"
Jerboa strings are piss poor quality.
Jerboa is also open source, meaning anyone can help improve it.
For me sadly Jerboa stability has gotten worse since the contributions 🥲
There's been lots of nice new features introduced, however one persistent bug where the UI doesn't know what I'm tapping occurs after a couple mins of use, and only an app restart fixes it.
I want to like the other apps, but so far I like my broken Jerboa more
Go on, improve it!
Well, enjoy poor experience!
It literally doesn't work, lol.
Good for you.
The one time pay to remove ads was released on the recent beta
Felt the the same, but now with the one time pay to remove ads I am back using Sync
Try Connect for lemmy or voyager. imho both opretty good, better than jeroba
Connect is way better than Jerboa.
Lmao the scrolling in Jerboa is so fucking disgusting
sad /kbin noises
The API will come soon! (seriously its being worked on if you don't know lol)
Whether we'll be using Sync when time comes is another thing lol.
Hang in there 🤞
I love Sync's theming and looks but Infinity for Lemmy is also looking promising.
Yeah, tried sync since that was my reddit app of choice but the ads and tracking just forced me to uninstall it. Trying thunder now and it seems pretty good
Sync's ads can be turned off by paying a small fee.
There's no tracking in Sync
Oh, my bad. I just saw this on the play store and figured it did.
Thunder is the best one that's open-source
No that would be Infinity for Lemmy
https://codeberg.org/Bazsalanszky/Infinity-For-Lemmy
This isn't showing up in F-Droid or the Play store. Has it not been released yet?
No. Only on Codeberg for now. Click on releases or use this link: https://codeberg.org/Bazsalanszky/Infinity-For-Lemmy/releases
You can use obtainium to update it
I like jerboa, but I love infinity.
Infinty supports Lemmy now?
Boost supremacy
Is it available?
Currently in development. Using Voyager until it's released
Infinity won't let me log in. So far I'm really liking Sync. And I'm completely fine with a subscription at it's current price. I'm happy to support devs. 8 don't like working for free. Not sure why they should have to. And so it's either ads or subscriptions. Pick your poison.
Please think really hard for a moment and try to consider whether there are more ways to purchase something than by subscription or ad support.
There would be a lifetime one time payment option coming up.
He's talking about tiping
Okay. But I feel one time purchase is a good option
That is actually what I was referring to, yes. It is a much better option than a subscription.
No I wasn't. I was talking about a one-time purchase, which is the default option for most products in existence.
OK.
One time payments would be great, but the devs make a lot more from subscriptions. You don't see services like Netflix or Hulu offering one time payments options. As a consumer, I love it, but the devs might not be able to sustain the app from that model. I'd be interested if you have any other ideas though.
You've moved the goalposts. First, you said this:
In other words, if you don't pay a subscription or see ads, the developer gets no money at all. You're using the app "for free."
Now you're saying that it's not "for free," just not enough to make a living. And what's more, you're using a mere suspicion to justify your very confident insistence that we need to "pick our poison," and that a one-time purchase is just not an option.
Basically, my point is that you need to choose what point you want to make and stick with it, because your argument has changed dramatically in the course of just two comments.
Yes the app is really well made
Is it on Android. Do you have a link?
https://codeberg.org/Bazsalanszky/Infinity-For-Lemmy
How do I even use this link
Navigate to the
Releasestab. You'll find every app versions released by the dev. In the bottom of each version there is a Download section, click the file with .apk and install it manually on your phoneThank you for asking this....I was about to.
I like Liftoff.
It's comfy and easy to use.
Is infinity for lemmy ready for install? I don't see it in the playstore or any apk for the tagged versions.
I am liking most apps in some way. I keep switching between many. And also each of the apps are in active development. Currenly using: Summit, Thunder, Liftoff, Sync, Voyager.
I guess Voyager is also planning for a native app for both Android and iOS
Excited for all.
Thunder! I run the ipa sideloaded. Gets weekly or so updates, very active development.
I'm using Connect, Sync and Infinity. Sync is the most polished but Connect is very close. Connect let's you post as well as reply whereas Sync and Infinity only let you reply.
you know, you can block ads on Android. add as many trackers as you want, NextDNS will just sinkhole them 🤷♂️ it works just like PiHole. Adguard is good too. no need for any subscription.
laughs in Connect
Idk connect has had a lot of bugs.
Things seem mostly ok now but there are some UI/UX features that still need some work imo
Imma stick with Jerboa. Their gradual improvement is amazing!
I'll wait on sync until infinity for lemmy becomes usable, but yeah, infinity better
Interesting. I haven't come across any ads yet.
I see an empty card for ads, I thought my adblockers blocked the actual content of the ads.
I see that too but it's still empty without any ad blockers, at least for now.
Edit: the ads are there now lol
Do you have adguard or pihole or another DNS blocker? If so, I don't think you'll see ads. At least not yet.
Nope, nothing like that.
It is reality.
Is it real? Is it maintained by the same developer as Infinity For Reddit?
I've tried all the clients that I could get my hands on and Voyager (vger.app) is what I've settled on. Awesome UI, lightweight web app, frequent updates.
Open source you say 🥺
Are people not using Memmy?
I can’t keep up with all the apps anymore.
Mommy is iOS exclusive
Not my mommy, she's on Android But yeah, that is an iPhone exclusive app
Of course she is. Why would mommy ever raise a worthless android peon?
Huh. Had never heard of Infinity.
Summit has gotten really good too, and has infinite scrolling and edge-to-edge display.
I don't really get the drive towards Sync. Sure, it's familiar, but lots of better options out there.
Hard disagree, every other Lemmy app feels sloppy and doesn't work half the time. Sync ftw
You should try Summit - after tweaking for 5 minutes it's what I wish Sync would look like. Aesthetically it's awesome!!
Sync still wins based on functionality and ljdawson's tendency to make sure everything works as intended, but I like the look of Summit more.
Yeah, Summit is a standout.
I agree. Having tried almost all lemmy apps on Android, my favorite so far are Summit and Sync.
Infinity for Lemmy was developed?
Mr Bazsalanszky forked it and is being developed now
https://codeberg.org/Bazsalanszky/Infinity-For-Lemmy/releases
Oh thanks. I like Infinity I'll follow it.
Also this
https://lemdro.id/c/infinityforlemmy
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: ![email protected]
Thank you! Just installed the APK. I was a sync pro user but the way the dev is handling Lemmy is disappointing with the ads, tracking and subscription only.
Used infinity for Reddit but jerboa works pretty well here I think
Just waiting for inbox support to be released to use it as my daily (already implemented, just needs an apk built).
Yes me too, also I feel infinity is bit slow to display all the posts, hopefully fill be fixed soon
It will. There has been a commit with a more experimental loading system, but apparently it isn't completely ready yet and breaks images.
Infinity >
if i am not wrong, it is google ads that does all the tracking, so once you get the adfree version, tracking doesn't happen
I'm pretty happy with connect for lemmy
IS sync not open source?
It is not.
Why would anyone use it then?
Can you remove the nav drawer on Infinity? My fav part about sync is how reachable it's UI is with the bottom-centric nav menus.
Me but thunder
where the fuck is infinity for lemmy