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Ontario premier says he's 'ripping up' $100m contract with Musk's Starlink in response to US tariffs

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Ontario Premier Doug Ford announced he is canceling a $100M contract with Elon Musk’s Starlink and banning U.S. firms from provincial contracts in retaliation for Donald Trump’s tariffs on Canada.

Ford warned that American companies could lose “tens of billions” in revenues.

Canada and Mexico have imposed counter-tariffs, while Ontario also plans to remove American liquor brands from stores.

Trump responded by suggesting Canada should become the U.S.’s 51st state to avoid tariffs, arguing Canada’s trade surplus makes it economically dependent on the U.S.

Ontario premier says he's 'ripping up' $100m contract with Musk's Starlink in response to US tariffshttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/donald-trump-ap-ontario-canada-elon-musk-b2691241.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.world

Not trying to bring down the party, but Ford is an absolute monster. This is definitely a 'broken clock' situation, and sadly will probably lead to him winning yet again.

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dubvee.org

Government-run liquor stores in B.C. have begun pulling "red-state" U.S.-made alcohol brands from store shelves as part of the province's initial response to new American tariffs on Canadian goods.

I like that BC is specifically targeting US liquor made in red states. Not that I disagree with the wholesale removal of US liquor brands in Ontario, but I appreciate BC calling out red states specifically.

Not sure if there's anything my red state produces that is exported to Canada, but feel free to block those too.

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FiveMacsreply
lemmy.ca

Fuck it, he runs all of the us, not just the red states.

Pull it all until the citizens really feel the burn and fight back internally. Zero reason even slightly negotiating with him

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atzanteolreply
sh.itjust.works

It's more effective to target his supporters though. If they block Kentucky Bourbon but still allow California wine then the right people will be angry and his opposition will be stronger.

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iAmTheTotreply
sh.itjust.works

I disagree. Placing the same restrictions on blue states also motivates them to speak up and rally against Trump. Plus, don't discount how many red voters exist in blue states. They are worth reaching as well.

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lemmy.world

The people in the blue states already do speak up and rally against Trump. It hasn't helped in the past and won't help in the future, partly because they don't have any power under the Electoral College, partly because it makes Trump voters double down, and partly because red states see it as a good thing to be doing something that makes blue states angry. They will happily harm themselves if it also harms liberals.

Your last point is true, though. There are more Trump voters in CA than there are in some large number of red states combined.

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iAmTheTotreply
sh.itjust.works

Your first paragraph is undercut by your second.

I didn't say blue voters. I said people in blue states. That means blue voters, red voters, independent voters, and non voters. I meant everyone in those blue states should feel the effects and speak up and out.

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And those voters would still vote for Trump. They will claim their hardships weren't due to Canada's tariffs but due to California having too high of taxes and not giving them enough water.

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Many of the blue states send republicans to the house, and if those districts went the other way, we'd actually have a house that might actually be interested in holding Trump accountable.

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Note that without California republican House members, the GOP wouldn't have a majority. Nevada despite being a 'Red State', contributes more democrat than republican representatives. If three red house races had went the other way, Trump would have had much more meaningful resistance.

The federal government ultimately has authority over the blue states, and as such Trump and American companies have access to their resources and/or status.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

It's not. They'll see it as more evidence of the globohomo hegemony punishing the poor, oppressed right and further cement their worldview.

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It's not just trump though, people vote in local elections as well. You want Newsom to be strong and Kentucky conservatives to be weak.

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floofloofreply
lemmy.ca

I support pulling all the US liquor from Ontario stores. It's a luxury that can very easily be replaced by Canadian products.

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Done and done.

“As part of Ontario’s response strategy to the imposed U.S. tariffs on Canadian goods, the government of Ontario has directed (the) LCBO to indefinitely stop all sales of U.S. alcohol products in our stores and online and to stop wholesale sales of U.S. products to restaurants, bars, grocery and other retailers no later than Feb. 4, 2025,” a spokesperson from the LCBO confirmed to national broadcaster CTV News.

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It is. Right now I'm quite interested in buying Canadian though, to support this country through a difficult time.

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Jumutareply
sh.itjust.works

oh shit is this the same braindead guy from not just bikes?

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Voroxpetereply
sh.itjust.works

Yeah, he's an absolute piece of shit and it's really weird to see him on the right side of this one.

Ford honestly scares me, because he's the kind of right wing asshole who knows how to pick his battles. He's smart enough to see a losing cause and stay the fuck away from it. He'll probably be prime minister some day, especially if PP manages to flame out at the next election.

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FelixCressreply
lemmy.world

he's an absolute piece of shit and it's really weird to see him on the right side of this one.

He's smart enough to see a losing cause and stay the fuck away from it.

That's your answer.

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Oh, yeah, I said it was weird, I didn't say I had any questions about it. I know damn well why he's doing this.

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lemmy.world

All the insane suburban Toronto politicians can be addicted to crack... just a little, as a treat.

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whoisearthreply
lemmy.ca

The better Ford died.

I'm not lying. Watch footage of him. He was a crackhead and an alcoholic but you could tell he cared about the people he cared about. DoFo is a mob shill.

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Tbf I'm in MB and didn't agree with either of them haha, I wasn't close enough to really see what Rob did for the city so take my opinion with a grain of salt

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datavoidreply
lemmy.ml

I still don't understand why there is a Ford in power. Do people not remember his brother?

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Voroxpetereply
sh.itjust.works

Forget his brother, the shit Dougie has done since getting in is so much worse. But Ontario voters are fucking morons.

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Bo7areply

almost all voters are fucking morons.

More accurate.

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feddit.nl

I’d love to see the EU tariff Tesla, Amazon, Google and Meta 100%. We don’t do nazi stuff, not again

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feddit.uk

Starmers just a red Tory, but every once in a while one of those ping pong balls in his head bounces off a button that does something sensible, with any luck the U.K. will follow suit. We don’t need those things.

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Maiqreply
lemy.lol

Putin's sitting in a bunker hiding from Ukrainian drones.

Musk is just the guy balls deep in trump.

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jj4211reply
lemmy.world

Note that Musk also was spewing pro-Russian views on Ukraine too.

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lemmy.world

You know, personally i think Rob Ford (and his shit brother!) is a piece of shit and shady as fuck.

Today, i am proud as Hell, of our 100% dyed in the wool, CANADIAN piece of shit!

GO CANADA!

oh, …and fuck musk! Edit: I meant the reverse. Yes. Rob dead. Doug driving now. Brain fart.

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floofloofreply
lemmy.ca

Rob Ford died in 2016. Doug is no less shady though.

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lemmy.world

A noble act and good luck to it but I doubt these few water weak men trying to take over the world will even notice.

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lemmy.zip

musk, at the height of his popularity, made it a significant part of his life to insist that a hero who rescued people trapped in a cave was a pedophile because they turned down his robot that wouldn't even fit in the tunnels.

This is the kind of shit that he does notice. And it destroys him.

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lemmy.ca

It's wild that his star stayed high for another SEVEN years after this before people finally caught on. You would have thought this would have been a pretty early warning.

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Ah, but you see, he was a genius who was saving the world through EVs and space travel.

I do think a lot of it was based on sock puppets on social media. But I also think it is just an inherent side effect of all of us defaulting to being in content bubbles and many people going farther to outright block "political" content.

And then you just have the ongoing, and successful, efforts to vilify journalism and news media.

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lemmy.world

I'm shocked to see Canadian conservatives Actually side with their country over authoritarian billionaires. Like I'm downright flabbergasted. Never in 100 years did I think they'd actually circle the wagons. I mean I'm still not really convinced, but I have my eyebrows raised.

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Same. I’m waiting to see what the play is because I have such a hard time believing he’s not fellating the rich.

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sh.itjust.works

The odd Doug Ford win

Finding myself agreeing with him despite myself is an odd feeling because generally I fuckin dislike him and what he stands for.

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lemmy.world

He's still a piece of shit, but he's not a dummy.

Politicians often are experts at feeling where the wind blows.

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moonreply

He was also cornered on this since Chrystia Freeland was so loud about Ottawa needing to take action

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Incoming: Trump backpedaling furiously under intense pressure from Elmo.

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