FBI Agents Involved In Trump Cases ‘Escorted Out’ of Offices in Friday Night Purge
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It's frightening how a dictatorship is setting itself up in plain sight, at an accelerated pace, almost hour after hour, and nobody does a damn thing about it.
These are fascist purges. The way a military dictatorship would take over. This kind of thing is what you see in undeveloped poor countries, banana republics.
Well that tracks since the US is a poor, underdeveloped country that spent all its money on a Gucci belt.
We've had failing grades on infrastructure like bridges since the god damn Bush Jr. era. That's pushing 20 years and no maintenance has been done.
Didn't Biden pass an infrastructure act to fix these bridges? Granted, I expect it'll take more than a year or two.
Musk is literally hijacking the treasury right now so it's more likely it'll just have the funding cut out from under it.
Trump is literally enacting Project 2025 right now, purging people like crazy, and people are like "What about how things normally work, though?" If it's not clear they're not going to work normally from here on out I don't know what to tell you other than: wake up.
You just can't say "no maintenance has been done." It has, with more planned.
Had we elected Kamala, this was one of the things that would continue to get fixed. Just seems you don't want to give credit where credit is due. Not sure if you're going for a "both sides" angle or what. But if you are, you don't get to conflate that with the current bullshit.
Gonna be real with you: Too little too late coming between Trump's first term and Trump's second.
Accomplishments are only accomplishments if they are seen through to the end. If Trump and Musk gut the funding for half the government overnight to pocket the difference, how's any of that going to happen? And if it doesn't happen, what's there to crow about in terms of accomplishments? Great job, we got two years in on 20+ years of maintenance backlogs.
Keep pretending things are normal or it matters when the whole point is we didn't get shit like that soon enough to keep people's faith in the government. Instead they got mad and voted for a mad clown to tear it all down after we pissed away trillions on pointless wars in the middle east that even conservatives claim they never supported now.
Nobody's gonna care what Biden wanted to do if Trump tears it all down anyway.
Call me in 6 months to let me know how many of those are still on track vs how many suddenly had no money or all their workers stopped showing up.
He did. Our free press didn't talk about it and spent time on Trump's latest bullshit. 🤷♂️
You forgot that last part
Yeah it's honestly pretty fucked to use Banana Republic as an insult from the nation that did the military invasions.
As it turns out, American exceptionalism is bullshit propaganda.
There's so many parts and pieces that all failed to get to where we are today. Each time you reflect a moment and realize that we shouldn't be be here in the first place:
The list is not exhaustive and goes on and on...
And in the background there's all the systemic failures and problems that enabled this: terrible public education, ignoring a large chunk of the electorate for too long, citizens united, social media and outrage culture, rampant disinformation and propaganda disguised as news, the electoral college and de facto 2 party system, too few checks and balances being hard codified, obvious loop holes like presidential pardons, ...
Petty sure historians will analyze this for generations. If we will still live in a world where historians are allowed to about their work freely.
Historians have studied the rise to power of Hitler and the Nazis in, out, up, down and sideways for 92 years and it amounted to a big fat nothing, as here we are again, dealing with the exact same shit today.
Don't get your hopes high.
The majority of Germans thought Hitler was an idiot. It was the idiots who followed him who brought him to power. Just like maga. The fact is that a few generations from now another idiot fascist will rise to power and another group of people will be equally astonished at the stupidity of their voters.
It'll go something like: "Oh my god WTF are you thinking!?! He's doing exactly the same thing as trump and Hitler!! He's a fucking fascist!! He just did a fucking maga salute FFS !!!"
The problem is that the people who really need to learn from history don't see any need to. It's the idiots who repeat history and we have to sit here watching them stick their dick in a beehive, knowing that everyone is about to get stung.
It’s at least helped those who seek that info be aware of the red flags and processes that took place to get them where they got.
You make Supreme Court judges political appointees, all of this was always going to happen at some point.
All you needed was the right guy to pull the levers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung?wprov=sfla1 this is whats happening
Who is going to do something? This is what the country voted for. So far, everything done has been legal. It will take time to make worse things legal, probably, but that is coming, too.
Not everything done so far has been legal and there are multiple ongoing cases suing Trump's actions. Book bans, healthcare, and anti-trans legislation are the first that come to mind. People and organizations (e.g. ACLU) in positions of power are trying to stand up for the common person where they can. If I had more money I'd donate to them.
No, it's not all legal. But the courts don't act at the speed of this executive.
This is a breakdown of our government.
I'm curious as to who's doing the actual force of these things. I know federal employees at the Treasury aren't expected to be armed resistance, but who, exactly, is behind forcing the way for Musk's people? Is it police? Private security? His own goons?
The new head of the agency badged them in, set them up in executive positions, and told his employees to obey them. They don't even have security clearance or government credentials. One of them is 18 fucking years old. Assuming you're talking about the fiasco at the Office of Personnel Management.
Fuck legality.
Slavery? Legal.
The Holocaust? Legal.
Legality is what fascists use to keep the population in line, because if it's legal, what can we do, right?
Well someone is going to do something, likely a lawsuit because these firings are pretty clearly illegal. Now if the Supreme Court (again) decides the law doesn't apply to Trump, then maybe it's time to freak out. But that'll take over a year and then it'll be midterms time. And as terrible as Democrats are at winning, they'll have to really suck to screw that up.
First they came for the FBI, and I did nothing, just like those pigs did when they had the chance to do something.
Why? It's literally what half the country voted for
Half the country didn't vote. A quarter of the country voted for this.
Half the country didn't vote for fascism. Half the country voted for anyone who promised to lower the price of fucking groceries, danger and morals be damned.
Yes, half of the country is thick as pig shit. But they're not all fascist to the core.
I'm trying to remember what that phrase about people who aren't bothered about fascism is. Something like "If there are nine nazis sitting at a table and someone is okay with sitting with them then there are ten nazis sitting at the table".
Unless that tenth person is a bit of a thickie, uneducated or was deceived into thinking the Nazis just had a mild case of right-wingness but otherwise offered solutions to their problems by constant exposure to "fair and balanced" media. Then you have nine Nazis and one fool sitting at the table.
So, 10 Nazis.
If you're not fighting against it and just going along, you're still a Nazi. Not every German was walking around in Hugo boss uniforms rounding up Jews. Plenty we're just keeping their heads down and trying to to get through the unpleasantness.
And that made them Nazis?
Those who were fooled into voting Hitler were idiots. Those who didn't weren't. And although I intensely despite those who voted Hitler out of idiocy, as much as I despise those who voted Trump for the same reason, at the end of the day, they were and will be all victims.
The true Nazis, then and now, are those who voted Hitler and Trump fully knowing, understanding and willing what was on the menu.
See my comment above.
"I was duped" is just as bad as "I was following orders". You don't get to weasel your way out of responsibility for your acts.
Does that matter anymore?
It does because at some point, those people who voted Trump will need to realize what they did and feel the shame.
I'm not in a position to do anything. But others are, and they're sitting on their thumbs in the Capitol Building, or actively collaborating with the orange utan in the hope of keeping their miserable jobs.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives?wprov=sfti1
Wonder what they could be purging dissidents for? 🤔
Another purge.
And another.
A forever purge, if you will.
This is what happens when you lose a class war.
The FBI was never on the side of the working class
Was addressing more of the ‘“taking out your government in the dead of night” aspect.
Yep, the USA is heading toward a 3rd World dictatorship at full steam.
Yep, I'm all for it. 4th World it is.
This has to be illegal in soooo many ways.
It's completely illegal.
Who's gonna do something about it? The FBI?
The supreme... Oh wait.
Congr.... Oh Ya they are part the problem.
That’s the thing,, the system of checks and balances broke down. Even in the scenario where one party captured all three branches we assumed they would at least have the ego to protect their own power.
Trump is not just illegally usurping congress's’ power for a lot of these but they are willingly giving up their power
Looks like it's up to the Omicron Initiative to solve America's problems once again.
Something is only illegal if someone upholds the law. And so far no one has upheld anything. And these are the people who tried, and now they're being made examples of just in case anyone else gets the wrong ideas.
And?
Legality had its chance...
You slow walk it for him and this is the thanks you get.
Lol really. I understand there's probably a lot of nuance but for the majority of us laymen this is what we saw the whole 4 years Biden was in office. Nothing was done to prevent a return of Trump. Which speaks volumes about those in power even when a democrat is in power.
Their own "night of the long knives" but with mere illegal firings.
Makes me wonder why they didn't give em the ol' dirt nap.
If I had to guess, it's because they are cops, and it's more important to have them loyal and not questioning their positions.
The night of the long knives.
Fun Hitler fact (as if there is such a thing): the phrase "Night of the Long Knives" was coined by Hitler himself in a speech given shortly after the event, although he used the phrase to describe what Ernst Rohm had allegedly been planning himself. The media instead attached the phrase to Hitler's actions, much against his wishes.
This is more like Stalin's Great Purge
Saddam Hussein , 1979. Have you seen that video?
Longer knives.
And I suppose we'll get more feigned surprise in the "liberal media", pretending they didn't know that donvict is a vengeful asshole that plans on doing NOTHING for the American people and everything to enrich the broligarchy and make others suffer, all while carrying out revenge on anyone he thinks "wronged" him.
Oh, and I'm sure we'll get more gaslighting and total lack of any apology from the idiots that were telling everyone bOtHsIdEs in the run up to the election, because the Democratic Party didn't promise them a pretty pony.
The FBI is just another group of cops that are assholes. The ones that "went after Trump", didn't do shit for 4 years, and those that didn't want to will be wishing they had once they cross Trump for some other bullshit and find themselves on the chopping block.
When you support corruption you'll get fucked by a corrupt fucker sooner or later.
I don't want to defend cops, but in this case they did as good a job as expected from them. FBI can't prosecute, they can only make the case, and that's by design and that's the good design. They made very good cases. All the cases died with judjes that Trump appointed the last time.
I don't understand what's surprising about that. I'd expect most people in a neoliberal cabinet to be right-wing.
the ones that tried might have just failed, i wouldnt blame them to this point
I kinda feel like the people who worked on putting Trump under the fucking guillotine deserve to be fired for failing to do so.
Disgruntled FBI agent returns to "finish the case' 🤞
This is not at all worrying /s