Donald Trump floats deporting American criminals
Summary
Donald Trump suggested deporting violent repeat American offenders to foreign countries willing to incarcerate them for a small fee.
The proposal, shared at a Republican retreat in Florida, has no legal precedent in the U.S. and would require new legislation.
Critics cite constitutional concerns, including the Eighth Amendment that prohibits "cruel and unusual punishments."
The idea follows Trump’s broader crackdown on illegal immigration, which a recent poll shows has significant bipartisan support.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-us-criminals-other-countries-incarceration-2021789Open linkView original on lemmy.world191
Comments43
Should they start with people convicted of 33 or more felonies?
The felons are in the white house!
By "criminals" he means his political enemies.
Sounds like an excuse to put people into work camps as they perpetually wait for somewhere to be deported to. (Hint: The camp is the destination.)
2026: Hmmm, these camps are looking pretty full, and deportation is super expensive. We really need to solve this problem once and for all
Finally, one might say.
A Solution, if you will...
Once the migrants are gone, there will be so many job opportunities in agriculture!
Agriculture macht frei.
Yeah this “proposal” violates literally everything about the Constitution.
This is just exile but with more words, which is not allowed under the immunities clause of the US Constitution.
Every person has rights to exercise due process within the several states, exile explicitly removes this.
Trump doesn't give a shit about the Constitution. He makes the rules. Checks and Balances? The only way that resonates with him is the checks he receives and his bank balances increasing.
He will take every inch given to him.
And just to be clear, I don't disagree with anything you said.
The what? Look, you can't just make up words.
Finally, the
projection comes into full view.
"For a small fee"
Isn't this just buying people? I seem to remember something like this happenening before.
Yeah this is just human trafficking.
Next step: defining trans people as criminals
Florida has been trying (via the "child abuser" route) as a way to get us the death penalty
There's already another plan for trans folk. They'll claim it's a mental illness and send them to RFK's "wellness camps" to replace some of the migrant workers they're deporting.
To where? Who is going to take them?
It's a short walk from "Mexico is sending us their criminals" to "We should send our criminals to Mexico."
Well, if British recent history is to be followed, Rwanda.
That's a perspective thing these days
There's precedent for doing this internationally. For example, Belgium pays the Netherlands to house some of their prisoners instead of building new prisons because the Netherlands has spare capacity and it's easier than building new prisons.
I doubt that this sort of thing is what Trump has in mind though.
I'll happily take a spot in a Nordic prison.
From experience I can tell you that even a nice prison is still a prison. Being locked up fucks with your mind.
I think, you insulted several nations by calling the Netherlands nordic.
Oh no! I need to be punished!!
Yes, who would take him?
Who would take him out?
China.
They said Hitler was protected by the devil himself. He survived 42 (or more) assassination plots.
42 attempts on Hitler, where as he and his Death Cult were responsible for almost 21m murders.
Trump doesn't give a damn about the constitution, because the supreme Court will grant him whatever he fucking wants. When he can't concentrate Jews, people of color, people of non-white descent, political dissenters, LGBTQ+, physically and intellectually disabled, and people who refuse orders to persecute the preceding people in deportation camps, he will cull them.
42 attempts to reduce 20,900,000 murders? That's it. A whole fucking war was waged against Nazi Germany, but only 42 attempts to cut the head off the snake.
Weren't 3 of those times tied to the Pope. When the pope wants you dead you know you've made people mad
I mean a whole army was trying to knock on his door...
I can't believe it. His followers have been telling me that he only wants to deport illegal immigrants! I'm shocked at this totally unexpected rhetoric!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_transportation?wprov=sfti1#Transportation_to_North_America
Wouldn't be surprised if this stupid fuck sends them to Russia as meat shields in Ukraine.
He means he’s planning a trip abroad
It’s a good thing he’s too illiterate to have read Kafka’s “In the Penal Colony” and figured out that there could be a literal, corporeal form of sentencing. 34 would be a heck of a time.
If this included him, since he's a criminal, then I'd be down.
Hypothetical... what if this is a coup by say Vance, or any of his underlings. The fact is the constitutional crisis's of arresting a sitting president are all defeated.
We then discover he's not immune to being deported for his felonies... and trump walks down the street as they ring the bell and say "shame" over and over again.
I still get a bit of a feeling that Vance's goal is to sabotage Trump. I know it's unlikely that this will be a good thing, but from his previous stances on policies and such, I'm not completely ruling it out.
I don't think the domestic prison slave industry would appreciate that very much.
He sould see how, symmetrically, other countries would be in their right to send their own criminals to the USA ... yet, being a criminal himself, he would never admit it.
Isn't that against the 8th amendment? (Is it the 8th?)
I bet inflation in us sky rocket.. Export wil shrink too because other country's wil add more tax on us products... as Healthcare become a 3th world country only the riches