Marjorie Taylor Greene demands Congress 'force' Gulf of Mexico name change as UK refuses to adopt new name
Summary
Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) is pushing legislation to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, arguing the U.S. military and taxpayers secure the region, making it "our gulf."
Greene shared the proposal text on social media, calling for federal agencies to adopt the name change.
She linked the renaming effort to combatting Mexican cartel activity in the Gulf.
Trump supported the name change in a 2024 executive order, but there has been no indication of international adoption, including by the UK.
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You know what? Let her have her little hissy fit. Let the Republicans send an unenforceable bill to Trump's desk so he can sign it with his tiny Sharpie. The more time they spend working on things that are irrelevant, the less time they have to do the really evil shit.
Democrats should take up their full debate time to say "This is stupid" over and over. Nobody is obligated to listen to us, and not even Trump will nuke London over it.
The problem is they are doing the evil shit quietly in parallel to this clown show, so everyone is distracted by the absurdity and not paying attention to the man behind the curtain.
I am an old man originally from Texas. Its name is the Gulf of Mexico and I'm going to dead name it until the day I die.
This whole naming process is a smoke screen for the criminal and fascist bullshit the Trump Administration & friends are trying to pull.
I hope Tecciztecatl or Coyolxauhqui takes offense to this and slams the Moon into the Earth like Majora's Mask. This world is too stupid to live.
Where are the other old Texan men with your values?
Not many, it's why I left.
What are Tecciztecatl and Coyolxauhqui the gods of? I presume that they’re from Mayan myth…
Short answer: Aztec moon gods.
Long answer:
Both Coyolxauhqui and Tecciztecatl are lunar deities.
According to the traditions of Central Mexico Tecciztecatl (also known as Tecuciztecatl) was the son (with breasts) of Tlaloc & Chalchiuhtlicue. Their name translates to "Person from Conch Land (place)" and is depicted with a sea shell on their head in the Codex Borgia. He was chosen to become the new solar deity in Teotihuacán during the creation of the 5th sun, but hesitated at the last moment. Nanahuatzin then threw himself into the sacred pyre created for the ritual thus becoming Tonatiuh the sun. Tecciztecatl shamed then followed becoming the moon (after getting a rabbit thrown at them).
Coyolxauhqui is a lunar deity in the pantheon of the Tonochca who are the Mexica residents of Tenochtitlán. She is the sister of Huitzilopochtli the patron deity of the altepetl (city-state) who was a solar deity and her a lunar counterpart. She was dismembered by Huitzilopochtli and either all her parts or just her head (I can't remember which) was thrown into the sky to become the moon.
The word Aztec was invented in the early 1800's by a German scholar so that's why I pointed out regional differences.
Thanks! So apparently I was wrong on what my this they come from, but it’s all quite enlightening!
You're more than welcome. I'm an absolute Aztec history dork so it's always a pleasure to rant about them. Truthfully I don't know about the Maya as much as central Mexico, but I know their moon goddess is called Ix Chel who holds a rabbit a lot.
while I get the sentiment, it's common to call Deutchland "Germany," "Allemagne" (or similar sounding) "Tiskland" or "Xīdé" depending on your language. A lot of languages have a variant similar to
Nyeh + mass + ka
No place really has a set "name."
If the right-wing is good at one thing, its distraction. All this stuff about the Gulf of Mexico, Canada, and Greenland is just plain noise designed to detract from Trump fucking around with Trans right, pulling out of the Paris Agreement (again), and all the other insidious bullshit he and his cronies are working away at
Also, the transpanic stuff and the climate stuff is ALSO a distraction and that is this - the MAIN agenda is to enrich donvict and all his cronies, and do jack shit about the price of eggs. Oh, which are actually going up.
The dipshits that voted for him because "he do good economy" and the price of eggs need lots of distractions right now. The broligarchs would love to make money like they did under Covid and they would love to see idiots that voted for donvict suffer.
Is the price of eggs down yet?
As funny as that is, it's actually someone that is going to set Trump up for undeserved success.
When the shortage subsides, the egg prices will go down, even if nothing else does. He'll gloat so much....
If bird flu is contained then the shortages will stop. Or we could defund everything, let it run wild until it jumps to humans, and make covid look like a wet fart. Which direction are we running in?
"Let the brain worm bearer decide." - Orange-dalf
No.
Soon! By immediately relaxing regulation and doing everything to make sure bird flu happens, eggs are about to get cheaper
It's leveled out up here in Canada. There was actually a pretty dramatic new affordability section in the store when I was last in it.
It'll go down in price once Canada stops sending their eggs to the US. Hoping electricity also goes down to when that's cut
No, hydro one will add a charge for surplus energy produced.
No, they have to focus on important stuff first. Like reassigning genders, renaming a body of water. You know, important things that actually help people.
Republicans are so stupid. They don't know how anything works.
They are just stirring up trouble, so people will pay attention to that narrative, rather than all the ways that they are stealing the country blind.
Seems like they know that, and that acting dumb is helpful for them.
You seem sure
I demand an IQ test for individuals running for Congress.
Also EQ test and psychopathy test
Pass and fail, respectively.
Wouldn't the EQ test discriminate against autistic people?
Sure but this is also a wildly fictional scenario that I made up in my own head to dunk on hateful people.
Setting it at 50 and above would be a great start
IQ is racially biased, they'd love it. We could just switch to the Schulze method and require that candidates explain how it works.
We need to rename the Statue of Liberty to the Statue of America. In its current state it's just woke propaganda with a sign actively promoting illegal immigration. It's downright un-American.
They should name it what it was intended to be called: Egypt Carrying the Light to Asia.
But I'm not sure how many Americans would know that's it's actually a recycled hand me down.
Today I learnt. This is fantastic, thank you for sharing this knowledge.
I also had no idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt_Carrying_the_Light_to_Asia
Today I learned this 🗽
I would not be surprised if Trump and his party tried to remove it because it represents a woke DEI ideology.
Don't give them any ideas.
If America tries to rename the Gulf of Mexico, then Mexico should rename itself "Real America".
Bonus: it also works in Spanish.
I think the only reason they have it and tried this yet is they simply haven't thought about it. I guarantee you if Trump were to read that comment, first of all he wouldn't understand the sarcasm, and would on ironically try and do that.
No, I'll continue to deadname the Gulf.
It's not deadnaming. It's the name the body of water chose. The Trump administration is forcing it adopt an assigned named that doesn't fit its identity.
I'll start calling the Cuban Golf
"Pennsylvania Dutch" means German ancestry because when people asked where they were from, they said Deutschland.
And the Dutch being from Holland didn't exactly make sense either.
So trump and the Republicans might be able to make American federal Agencies call it that...
But absolutely no one else has to follow suit
Different countries call things different names. And only incredible ignorant people don't understand that in 2025
The Dutch-from-Holland thing is basically a quirk of the historical relationship between England and the Netherlands. Originally the English referred to all continental Germanic people as Dutch (from Deutsch, of course). Then the Netherlanders started to become a distinct group quite separate from other Germans. However, England had way more contact with the Netherlanders, who were both geographically closer and also a huge naval presence in the seas around England, so the name stuck to them instead of the Germans
Mexicans were there first. They got dibs on the name.
Bets on whether or not she even knew where the Gulf of Mexico was this time last week?
It's soo dumb.
The "Gulf of Mexico" was named before the country was officially named Mexico. The "Gulf of America" was historically a gulf in eastern Russia.
Both Mexico and USA are part of North America, so I suppose the name makes sense, but why do the republicans think it's a patriotic thing for them? Why is New York named after a town in England? Why don't they rename it to... "America" and change the name of he state to "America"
Henceforth all cities, states, towns and rivers will be called America. The United Americas of America.
While they're Americanizing names, they might as well bring back Liberty Cabbage and Freedom Fries.
Dumbfuckistan wants us to call what what now?
The Gulf of America.
If you think about it, it actually makes sense. We'd be staking a claim to something we have no right to and we've filled it with garbage and oil. We've done so much damage to it, that it's barely recognizable compared to 100 years ago.
It's pretty much Water USA.
If y'all have any other bodies of water you think should be named after us, go ahead and do it! A puddle with a dead bird in it, your toilet, your uncle's piss-filled pants after he passed out from too many beers. USA! USA! USA!
How did Trump support the name change in a 2024 executive order if he wasn't president during any of 2024? I don't remember Biden signing that order for him.
Why do we still let this woman talk? I can see the instant over night fame if someone smacked her in the mouth the moment she inhaled to say something stupid.
SHE IS A LAWMAKER
I'm getting real fucking tired of these "why are we paying attention to this person?" comments... Dude, these people are deciding our future. Our lives are literally in their hands. That's why I'm fucking paying attention.
You think I want to have to follow this shit? It has probably taken years off my life.
Did inbred lady make more noise?
You're being very generous with the term "lady", yikes!
Haven't you heard the news? We're all officially ladies now.
@MicroWave I'm rather impressed with the UK on this. I had expected them to cave immediately.
Brit here. Same. Especially the English.
Fuck it I'm in favour of renaming some of our bodies of water after Mexico just on principal. We've got a lot of lochs up here in Scotland, one of them can be Loch Mexico. Or Loch Meagsago to fit Gaelic spelling
No argument from me. Should imagine it will annoy Trump which makes it all the sweeter.
Ummm, what?
True, but he also wasn't president in 2024.
Was it not a 2025 executive order?
i don’t know about you but i’m still in 2024. didn’t seem like 2024 would be worth switching to
You had your chance…..
I have some bad news for you...
No, but we can let them scream about this for 4 years if that's all they do. Earplugs aren't that expensive.
How in the hell would a name change do anything? Was that the only Mexican-related thing you could come up with when asked why the need for a name change?
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The US government has no ability to force nane changes on internationally recognized names for bodies of water
The only way she is going to force the UK into using that stupid name is if they invade and conquer the UK.
Another country to add to Trump's annexation list.
Yes, a second NATO member on the list and one with Nuclear Weapons operating on a deadman's handle. I'm sure that's wise.
Trump would need to blockade food and fuel shipments to the UK. Starvation and failing logistics would soon cripple the country, if no help from the EU arrived. Brexit?
In short: If the US tries to blockade supplies between the UK and the rest of the world, be it by Sea or Air or Rail, the US would still be at war with NATO and the EU, as well as many other countries (the countries of the ships that are attacked for example) because the UK doesn't merely have a lot of allies, but they also get a lot of shit from the same routes the UK does.
You make good points in favor of the UK. Still from my viewpoint the US has some favorable cards and sits on a longer lever in the long term in the bilateral relation.
Right, so basically bully other surrounding countries into stopping things getting into the UK? You assume France and Germany are going to be gungho about blocking off their neighbour because the US is pissed off at them for not renaming a body of water that isn't even theirs.
I think you need to understand something:
Donald Trumps ideology on the international is basically "The Rest of the World Owes us, and we will make them pay", and I don't think Germany and France are going to suck America's cock over Britain, especially since Trump is quite pally with Europe's current big threat (Russia) and a certain member of his government is openly providing support for Far right parties in the UK, France and Germany.
What I think would happen is that Trump slaps Tariffs on the UK and EU, tells them to bend the knee lest he raises them, and the UK, France, and Germany basically look at each other and say "aight, bet" and raise tarriffs on American made goods. I don't think Germany and France are going to abandon the UK for a man who gets his money from Russia.
Anyone with the capacity to google knows that Trump's "Tariff-a-paloosa" scheme is going to blow up in America's face as things get more expensive because, again: Importers pay the tariff, not the exporter. And if there's one thing I know: You cannot make actual Scotch Whiskey, French Wine, or German Cars in the US.
Also, another thing you can't grow in a large scale in the US is Coffee! Only Hawa'ii can grow it and they can't grow it on a scale that can satisfy the market in the Lower 48 and Alaska, so I guess watching the coffee supply to one of the most caffeinated countries in the world get cut off will be interesting to watch.
Oh, yeah. Egg prices bout to drop in 1456...
Wow, Marge is one stupid Karen.
This is doing WHAT for the American people? The maps get changed; now fucking what? People now have healthcare, jobs with dignity and good pay? They have clean air, clean water?
This would be a lot more damning if Democrats had something substantive to show on these fronts from their last 4 years.
Democrats Schmemocrats. This has nothing to do with the Democrats. This is about the qons - they own this shit. The dummies voted for this chaos "because mah economy".
Donvict and the qons posture like they are great for the economy and they are going to make everything better for Americans. What are they doing for that supposed goal?
You're right! We should support the worse option because the other one didn't do enough!
I voted for Harris. She would have done better if Democrats had more successful legislation to point to.
But since you don't want to do jack shit for workers, you have to pretend that all criticism of your shit anti-worker party is the same thing as support for the other shit anti-worker party.
The name "change" hasn't even been adopted by the United States own government, because the president does not have that authority. Congress granted that authority to the US Board of Geographic Names in 1890. I suppose Congress could rename it if they passed a bill that the president signed into law overriding that authority for that specific case, but until they did so, it's not official.
Here is the link to the US Geographic Names Information system page showing the current official name of the Gulf of Mexico: https://edits.nationalmap.gov/apps/gaz-domestic/public/search/names/558730. Note the list of accepted variant names, which still doesn't include "Gulf of America".
It has nothing to do with the name change, it's just another bullshit opportunity to sow division among allies
It also sounds like the usual magic trick shennanigans: ooh look at what crazy things I'm saying~ no, don't watch what I'm doing elsewhere, focus on the craaazyyy.
At this point the history books will be filled to the brim with stupidity, so I really want future teachers to have to explain "the war of names."
I'm imagining them just holding their forehead when they get to it and explaining "...Yes. People worshiped a man that made us go to war over the name of a body of water. They even wanted him to have an illegal 3rd term."
How will changing the name curb drug cartels?
Confuse them?
"Oh no we can't find America now" they said
Can't do anything that matters because she's a joke
Every court needs a jester.
Need a better one. This one isn't entertaining or funny.
How come she hasn't blown the top off the whole Pizzagate scandal?!
Oh. Right, because it was never a thing except in her tiny fevered batshit mind.
I'm never going to call it that. it's a stupid waste of time. every time the trailer park queen opens her mouth she says something stupid.
You should make the people that live in the Gulf vote over the new name. JFC what a fucktard
Yeah. Let's change that to New America and all move there.
Shhh.
How about this MTG. The section of Georgia that touches the Gulf of Mexico can be renamed to the Gulf of America.
Oh wait your state doesn't even fuckin touch the Gulf of MEXICO.
Jokes aside I am curious which country has more land along the Gulf. Not because I want to rename it, but eyeballing it on maps I really can't tell.
Would you measure it to the "mouth" like I did in the picture? How are Gulfs defined? I need a cartographer to chime in.
We really giving up on "Gulfy McGulfface" so soon?
Yeah that just rolls right off the tongue haha
MtG Charlatan drama. Next
Jesus Christ, the Gulf of Mexico is already under our protection and especially our exclusion zones which we've mostly waived for the benefit of business.
Read a fucking book.
You're asking for too much, lol.
Is she having a kiddy tantrum again? I know health care is a problem in the US, but she should be able to afford the psych meds she obviously needs.
And if she is so conservative that she does mot trust pharmaceutical stuff, maybe she could take something natural, like a nice, fresh glass of hemlock juice.
Why is Lesser Canada trying to rename the Gulf of Mexico?
We can unilaterally rename the US, right?
South Canada works for me.
Duck it, I'll call it Golfo de México from now on.