Spyke
sh.itjust.works

Community notes are an actually good feature of Twitter. It's a good thing they are copying it

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sopuli.xyz

It's broad consensus that's featured there, so it manufactures consent less hard, and more importantly, the fact-check appears attaches to the original misinfo, so it gets reshared with it.

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lemmy.world

but broad consensus does not mean true.

to me this just sounds like social media passing the buck to their users with no regard for accuracy. sure, whatever you guys want to believe, go for it.

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nfhreply
lemmy.world

I think you and the person you're responding to both have a point. They're totally passing the buck to their users, but their users will probably be better at putting accurate information than they are. It's a different set of problems to be sure, but I think it's a preferable one

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lemmy.world

but their users will probably be better at putting accurate information than they are.

"they" (Meta) was not the one fact-checking, it was a 3rd party service. And I don't know why you assume a social media user base would be better at it, especially with highly politicized things like climate change, vaccines, wars, etc.

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Echo Dotreply
feddit.uk

They think that because community notes are actually fairly good on Twitter. You'd think that they wouldn't be, but somehow the extremist idiots don't seem to be able to outshout the sensible majority.

Just go on YouTube and search for community notes.

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"fairly good" or not, the question is, is it better than a 3rd party service like the one Meta was using.

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daddy32reply
lemmy.world

like social media passing the buck to their users with no regard for accuracy.

Lol this is the whole idea of the social networks - outsourcing of the work to the users (or "useds" as Stallman calls them). This used to be called "web 2.0". In other news, this also highlights one of the shortcomings behind the idea of democracy.

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What does Facebook have now, a monarchy? Their moderators are way worse than Twitter fact-checking ever was.

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fox2263reply
lemmy.world

Crowd sourced fact checking so they don’t have to pay staff to do it.

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kent_ehreply
lemmy.ca

Instead the "community" can brigade the "verification" and create an even louder echo chamber.

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Indeed. People are going to have to work hard to constantly be tackling misinformation like on X.

However it does present an opportunity. Perhaps a taste of their own medicine…

Post misinformation about the CEOs and the like, like I’ve seen a few articles recently about Zucc having sexual issues. Community notes could say it’s true if there’s enough votes or submissions or whatever 🤣

Or like https://lemmy.world/post/24021828

If it’s about the CEOs we can digitally “luigi” them

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katy ✨reply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Community notes are an actually good feature of Twitter.

they're really not; they're just a way to harass marginalized people.

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sh.itjust.works

That's not true, why do you lie? The community notes I have seen are very reasonable and are not used to harass people but rather to correct lies or misleading information

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katy ✨reply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

try existing as a trans person online. community notes only works when your userbase isn't majority nazis. also it's not a substitute for ACTUAL moderation.

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I have literally not seen a bad community note on twitter. Which isn't to say they don't exist, clearly you just see different posts from me. Though ime overall they seem to work better than the sorry excuse for moderation twitter had before, and it's pretty much the only change that piece of shit made that I consider positive. Well that and likes not being public.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

i read on facebook that mark zuckerberg was a convicted paedophile. it must be true because there was no fact check.

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They didn't remove misinformation before anyway. After the hurricane devastated the Smokie mtns FB was full of idiots claiming fema was buying land for a private mining company, the storm was manmade, etc.

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To be funny? Sorry I think I did not understand you 😆

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fedia.io

This is a full announcement, sounds like they're going on a full Twitter way

The original post has 1.5k likes and 2k replies so obv not everyone are happy about Twitter alternative just turning into Twitter

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edricreply
lemm.ee

Lmao how does moving the content moderation team from CA to TX remove bias.

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SuiXi3Dreply
fedia.io

It removes potential liberal bias and replaces it with bigotry.

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リョウreply
lemmy.zip

Anything not liberal = bigotry. This platform is just as bad of an echo chamber as Twitter lol

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Hating someone because they’re born different or live their lives different = bigotry. Hating that people are removing the rights of people is not bigotry. Facts are not opinions.

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__ghost__reply
lemmy.ml

Considering Texas's major tech hub including FB offices are based in Austin idk what bias they think they're eliminating

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lemmy.ml

and our US content review to Texas

So Texas is officially 3rd-world of US now.

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lemmy.world

So for the . . what seems like hundredth year in a row - anyone who's using Facepals and Xitter please delete it. please. Just. Stop.

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“Community notes”

Provided by the same communities that post stuff about flat earth, mole children, and election fraud.

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Fb guy went to see twitter guy, who is the US president, at an old diaper rapist's fake white house. Then FB guy publicly gave diaper rapist $1,000,000 in protection money and changed fb fundamentally to incorporate a prominent Twitter feature.

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In before it's exposed that all the community notes are generated by AI accounts. It's like misinformation theatre.

If before I was born people invented fully cyborg replicants then hid the fact by programming the replicants to spread misinformation about their existence, I wouldn't even be surprised at this point.

Biggest flaw to this would be:

I get why youd keep the sex slaves around. I'd maybe get why you keep around the beautiful people. Smart people, physically fit people, talented people, etc. But why the fuck haven't I been culled yet? The only reasonable answer might be I'm in some fucked up Truman show, but man, these ancients taste in reality TV is fucking stupid. I'd even say genetic diversity, maybe, but I'm childless and I'm not getting younger.

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well lets see if the EU goes along with that change or if they even dare to roll it out here - twitter is already in hot water regarding the lack of moderation and rampant disinformation, adopting that trash model will not help at all.

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lemm.ee

I’m starting to think that 1A speech Trump posted out via RFK on YT, the one with the giant green crayon subtitles, was a directive list for his oligarchs, not really intended for mass consumption, just them and the legislators who worship at his altar.

No one’s talking about it, not even here, but these guys are doing it.

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lemmy.world

Frankly, they might be idiots, they might be anti-vaxxers, they might be flat-earthers from anything, they might be fascists.

But if what they are starting with is removing mechanisms and not putting new ones, and removing those that sucked anyway, - then maybe a tree is known by its fruit.

Admittedly I'm typing this from Moscow.

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zephorahreply
lemm.ee

Trump specifically said fact checking was wrong and an infringement on free speech.

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Yeah, while it's not, referring to some authority telling you what's right and what's wrong is, in fact, not fact checking.

You can't trust humans to get such fundamental things right. The more important it is, the more they want to do something stupid.

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