Spyke
lemmy.world

Turpentine I can understand having for various reasons (lighting shit on fire, removing paint/ink/pepperspray), but what is the need for tin snips? cutting the zip-tie handcuffs used by riot police?

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Apepollo11reply
lemmy.world

I think they're for performing the vasectomies as alluded to in the second panel. I assumed the turps is for make-shift antiseptic.

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lemmy.world

OP just made it sound like they are needed for any type of protest or demonstration, so I assumed they had use beyond just reproductive rights marches. Plus, turpentine can be used as an antiseptic, but there are lots of less conspicuous antiseptics available.

I like your answer, too, though.

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Know how many times you’ll find yourself out and about and suddenly needing to perform an emergency, involuntary vasectomy and then discover you left your tin snips and turpentine at home?

Only once. You only make that mistake once. Keep it in your daily carry.

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lemmy.world

Yeah, meanwhile I've used bolt cutters more than most people (anarchism got me doing bicycle repair and salvaging which involves them front time to time), and they work by leveraging the stiffness. They aren't actually sharp, they're just dull scissors with a fuck ton of leverage

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Cutting holes in fences, as in trespassing to vandalize or cause havoc.

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They’re for removing male reproductive organs.

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sh.itjust.works

Whats so confusing is how conservatives can say "don't tread on me" then vote to ban abortion
or "join or die" then say 'violence is never the answer'

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batmaniamreply
lemmy.world

I just want that snake. Is that some iconography I've missed? I have the rainbow gadsen on my range bag I want that one as well.

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tetris11reply
lemmy.ml

I was genuinely confused there, since I thought it was something that only conservatives used. Thanks for this

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It used to be a thing for all libertarians not just the right wingers claiming to be them and eventually the conservatives and fascists. Nowadays left libertarians tread where we please.

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sh.itjust.works

It's amazing how many Gadsden flags are next to Thin Blue Line flags.

"Don't tread on me, unless you're in the group of people who can kill citizens with impunity, then you do what you want because I've no critical thinking skills."

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It's okay if they're treading on other people. The Thin Blue Line folks will 100% attack cops if they stood in their way. (See Jan. 6th)

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noooo it's an anti-littering campaign and last time I was anywhere but austin in the state, hoo boy the litter.

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Krauerkingreply
lemy.lol

Yeah, metal shears with a nice long handle to make cutting through hardened objects more easily.

And wouldn't you know it but turpentine is an antiseptic and pain reliever...

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sh.itjust.works

I still don't get it. My metal shears don't open enough for anything but sheet metal, and they're definitely not suitable for anything hardened. I get the feeling that the reference is about using them on people, but I don't understand how.

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donreply
lemm.ee

The comic is about women’s reproductive rights and how righties want to take that away from them. The woman is suggesting the same be done to men, using the tools she mentions, with turpentine being the disinfectant.

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sh.itjust.works

Ok I think I get the idea... But even with me, who is definitely not well endowed, metal shears would take quite the effort. Giving me more of an opportunity to attempt to hinder the impromptu castration.... Wait are we talking taking of the ball sack? Still, box cutters would be more efficient.

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donreply

You’d need to talk to the creator of the comic for more clarification, I can only present what I see.

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harsh3466reply
lemmy.ml

Burning shit down to the ground. There have been many attacks on abortion clinics that included attempts and/or successful burning.

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lemmy.world

Or tinships? My only guess is castration and cauterizing the wound, but that's an extreme shot in the dark.

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MehBlahreply
lemmy.world

It was a pretty crude way to castrate. It was done that way a few hundred years back. I've heard that expression before. The first time was when I was really young. The tin snips were very sharp the and the turpentine sealed the wound by chemically burning the flesh. I'm pretty sure its what they did to some pigs when I was very young. I know the pigs made a lot of noise.

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lemmy.world

Well I'm not expert - the only thing I've ever read about castrating pigs was in some novel in high school where a guy's job was to tie the testicles off with string or twine and presumably after a while they fell off. Seemed pretty cringey to us all at the time.

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lemmy.world

I've heard they use elastic or rubber bands nowadays (at least for steer), but the family sold the dairy like 30 years ago so I've been out of the loop a while.

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Pretty sure that's what it was referring to based on another comment. Also it being used to burn down buildings.

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lemmy.world

shithole state with shithole laws and shithole lawmakers. what's confusing?

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4lanreply
lemmy.world

I just moved here and you're not wrong. All the roads are fucked up, even in the suburbs. Everything just feels cheaper than Virginia.

The license plates aren't even stamped, just a coat of paint lol. Major roads are just filled with potholes forever.

Went to a shooting range and they got mad at me for shooting too fast. Like what is the benefit of being here??? I thought you guys were free?

I just moved here for cost of living but partially regretting it

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I miss the food. I miss some of the people. but it's gotten worse every year for 2 decades.

hope you don't have wives, daughters or mom's in your family. just living in texas is a potential death penalty by sepsis, literally one of the most painful ways to die.

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lemmy.ca

I don't get it. This guy was shooting doctors? Why? Is there a second page to the comic?

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mhaguereply
lemmy.world

I think it's because turpentine is associated with DIY abortion and maybe slavery. Men "fixing" women and the women having to "unfix" themselves. Using different solutions to induce abortion.

The tin snips and vasectomies is a decent clue.

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Isn't it also highly flammable? My first thought with the comic was it would be used for arson.

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sh.itjust.works

The Devils Panties tends to use that character to depict an amalgamation of Gamergate, Rapist Brock Allen Turner, Kyle Rittenhouse, and every online debatebro combined, and so the other characters are written to react to him in such a way.

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Looks a little too clean cut for Gamer Brock Rittenhouse or a debate bro, seems more like a Christian frat type.

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lemmy.world

Can we talk about how the amount of anti abortion women and anti abortion men is about equal?

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chaonautreply
lemmy.4d2.org

Ah, yes, the pinnacle of masculinity: whining that people fighting for their survival and freedom didn't pay enough care to the feelings of people who didn't think their struggle was all that big of a deal in the first place.

Maybe if you weren't out to spite the people who you believe have beef with you specifically, you'd realize that the struggle against patriarchy benefits men as well, but you'd have to recognize that there are plenty of men that are specifically marginalized by those that up hold their preferred version of masculinity is the only valid way to be a man.

Or, you could skip all that and blame it all on women hating men because some depiction of a woman said something mean to a depiction of a disrespectful man and take it to have meant you specifically, I guess.

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chaonautreply
lemmy.4d2.org

Why are you ranking genders? Did you spend time under the impression that men were the better gender? Can you even see how fucked it is to relegate an entire gender as second class? If you bought into the idea that women were somehow less than you by mere virtue of being women, can you not see how they might bear some justified disdain for you specifically?

No, I don't see men as a "lesser" gender, I don't see women as "lesser", either. They are simply different ways of experiencing the world, and the near coin flip odds of what the doctor will say when they check your genitals for the first time isn't gonna be the way that I determine who are worthwhile people.

There's more to masculinity and manhood than fitting the awful mold that the hegemonic powers have set out for us. If you stop trying to "win at gender", or whathaveyou, maybe you can become the sort of man that doesn't take gender as a zero-sum game

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Legreply
sh.itjust.works

I actually agree with you. Men did a terrible job of things, and now we have to deal with the patriarchy. Movements like 4B have been a long time coming, but I worry that men as a whole aren't mature enough to clean up their act. Time will tell.

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When your existence makes half the people in the world uncomfortable you are kind of a dick for living.

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Check the skin tone and age cohort. You're going to find some large discrepancies. Also skews heavily by education, as women early in their collegiate or professional careers tend to be significantly more sensitive about the prospect of getting pregnant than peers in low-paying jobs with little upward mobility.

There's definitely a profile of a pro-abortion and anti-abortion voter.

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Bobreply

It's not really clear that he's against abortion though eh. He just looks like an ill-informed passerby.

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lightnsfwreply
reddthat.com

If she thinks that guy is a terrorist she should report it to the police.

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Lmao this was the same artist who made a full page comic panel telling people to suck it up and vote Harris without demanding changes or improvements for another 4 years, assuming she actually won.

Liberals don't do jack when it comes to outrageous actions, they won't ever move past protests.

Even the recent shooter wasn't some longtime liberal or even a leftist. He was just some dude who was fed up and likely suffered various mental pain which is why they caught him with all the possible incriminating evidence they needed. He had no true intention of slipping away, he somehow convinced himself that what he did would give him enough public support for change (regardless of whether or not that will actually happen).

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Uniquitousreply
lemmy.one

Funny how quickly peoples' minds change when there's the credible threat of reprisal.

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Legreply
sh.itjust.works

If you believe women are lesser creatures whose bodies you control, what would change your mind about that?

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sh.itjust.works

Unsure is /s, but doesn't seem like it.

Reproductive health advocates are not mass murdering children. You're thinking of guns, drugs, and cars if you are in the USA, cancer and other genetic defects if in the UK.

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Holyginzreply
lemmy.world

We get it, you don't have any scientific knowledge and only go by what religion "says"

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Holyginzreply
lemmy.world

Scientific knowledge shows that a fetus is a lump of cells with no more consciousness than an amoeba that can't exist without the host which makes it closer to a parasite. That's not a baby or a person. You need to actually be able to understand more than a one sentence statement to grasp the vast majority of scientific knowledge.

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sh.itjust.works

K. I'm going to get back to work for my company that is mass murdering children by lowering employee reproductive health. (/s)

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sh.itjust.works

Those two examples are wildly different from eachother. One is a medical procedure involving theoretical children, and the other has real kids getting injured and killed.

Edit: wanted to add that the medical procedure is always to prevent a major health issue when being funded by state taxes.

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Whenever the israelis bomb the buildings, they don't know for certain there are kids in there. They are just theoretical kids in the moment to them.

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More like, Schrodinger's kids. I genuinely hope you find peace and learn to not let being pro-birth justify letting others suffer and/or die. Red tape and bans kill when it comes to healthcare, without solving anything.

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sh.itjust.works

I prefer to go by what the Bible says. Which is that abortion is just fine and God even performs them!

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sh.itjust.works

But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

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That's about infertility. The NIV isn't a very good translation and focuses less on what the text actually says and easy readability. A more accurate translation is the NRSV (although the ESV or even the KJV doesn't make this mistake- although it depends on whether you want to translate "thigh" as "womb" or literally render it, as thigh is a euphemism. However, the word "miscarry" in the sense that we understand it is not there)

[27] When he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled herself and has been unfaithful to her husband, the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her womb shall discharge, her uterus drop, and the woman shall become an execration among her people. [28] But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be immune and be able to conceive children.

Verse 28 says "be able to conceive children". It's quite clear that she wasn't already pregnant at this point.

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LePoissonreply
lemmy.world

Dude what, no, it's saying hey if you're not preggers you can still make a baby. If you've "defiled [your]self" then you're gonna have an abortion when you drink that water. Very explicitly that's what is being communicated through the text.

Dancing around translations is just some hand waving bullshit, also maybe we should consider the text isn't some infallible word of God when you're saying a different translation changes the meaning of passages. Just as an aside.

I just picked the first translation the Google search gave. Feel free to read your same thing phrased some other way in another translation.

Besides that is the only thing the Bible actually says about abortion. The anti abortion stuff is a very modern thing.

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midwest.social

It's always endlessly fascinating to me how "fundamentalists" think God speaks in metaphor only when it's convenient for them personally.

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That's not up to you. All scripture is God breathed. Are you saying that God would allow his one and only true word to be mistranslated so poorly? Shame on you.

It is obviously both. A woman could be pregnant or not and the same thing would happen either forcing a miscarriage (aka an abortion) or become infertile. There is no where that indicates the woman's current state of pregnancy or lack thereof so it must be both.

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That's not up to you. All scripture is God breathed. Are you saying that God would allow his one and only true word to be mistranslated so poorly? Shame on you.

There are several examples of mistranslations happening in major bible translations. Having this superstitious view about it being impossible to do a bad translation of the Bible is completely rubbish.

It says that she shall be free to conceive. How can you be free to conceive if you're pregnant? You cannot conceive a child when pregnant. This scripture cannot be used in any way to justify abortion. You started on a poor translation of it from a disreputable translation (The NIV, often nicknamed the "Not Inspired Version") and are now clutching at straws because I pointed out that it was clearly incorrect.

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zarkanianreply
sh.itjust.works

Having such a vulnerable weak point be both easily accessible and unprotected is a design flaw.

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lemmy.world

Well when they are as small as yours, it becomes really hard to hit that target with a kick.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

It takes 0 balls to post a criticized opinion on an anonymous forum

But yeah no go off on praising your poor little persecuted ally, they're such a martyr

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Again: it doesn't take balls to post at all to an anonymous forum

Keep reaching for that victim complex you so desperately crave

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It doesn't take balls to comment anonymously, you're at 0 risk of anything other then getting your feelings hurt

So I mean... I guess it takes tiny, tiny, insignificant balls to ignore what people you don't care about think

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lemmy.world

A man is being a bit sarcastic and the angry feminist protester is threatening to mutilate his genitals?

No wonder Trump and Abbott won.

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sh.itjust.works

Yeah, it's not cool to threaten someone's genitals and remove their agency in what happens to them. Congratulations, you are currently standing on The Point.

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Soulgreply
sh.itjust.works

Random dude being sarcastic isn't doing that. Focus the anger on the actual problems.

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Random dude is being sarcastic unprompted about someone fighting for a personal freedom. He is an asshole and an immediate problem.

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If you think it's just one man being a little sarcastic then you need to open your eyes to the stripping of bodily autonomy going on all over the place.

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Hmm yeah it’s almost like we shouldn’t tell a person what to be doing with their body…. Wooosh

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mhaguereply
lemmy.world

That isn't a man, it's a conservative. Less than a bug.

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