Florida introduces anti-chemtrail bill
Florida State Senator Ileana Garcia has introduced legislation to prohibit "weather modification" activities in the state.
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-bill-ban-weather-modification-chemtrails-conspiracy-theory-1994060Open linkView original on lemmy.world235
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Let them pass it, take it to the state courts and then claim (correctly with mountains of scientific evidence) that any combustion of fossil fuels counts as "weather modification"
It sounds like they've thought of that:
So it allows releasing pollution that causes climate change since it is a side effect of other things (transport, power generation, etc.), but forbids intentionally trying to mitigate climate change by releasing anything into the air. Sounds about right for Florida politics.
That said, there is a real uncertainty about the side effects of may experimental geoengineering techniques, so some regulation is probably in order. Preferable not from Republicans for ignorant or bad faith reasons though.
They ripped off Tennessee's bill.
https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/default.aspx?BillNumber=SB2691&GA=113
That's kind of dumb, no? Because what if we need weather control to reduce the fucking temperature?!
We won't, we have AC /s
If they voted to be cook, cook em.
We cook too!
Does this make outdoor misters illegal? Not sure how Disney World lines would be bearable in the summer without those misters cooling things down. But maybe they don't consider water a chemical?
Nah, cause the intent is to make more money. Just happens to be by making customers more comfortable, which also just happens to be by adding moisture to the air. See, it's a law designed to do nothing. Florida tax dollars hard at work.
Cruise ships will have to shut off their engines 200miles from shore and coast in with their engines turned off .... don't know how they will leave port tho? .... rowing like a Roman Trireme maybe?
How else are cruise ship guests going to work off the all-you-can-eat ice cream bar available 24/7 on the lido deck?
No, because the bill only forbids emissions made for the express purpose of changing the weather. Cruise ship emissions, they'll argue, are done for the purpose of making the ship go.
Human breathing lets out CO2, a known greenhouse chemical.
So to be safe, just stop the breathing of everyone.
They're going after people who plant trees...
Water trees, but basically yes.
Let them keep the ban.
Lol, they're literally the state that needs weather modification the most. Just ask the remaining home insurers.
This is hilarious.
Moron signaling
Lmao, enjoy dealing with all the nuts trying to report “chemtrails” now.
Hell, maybe giving them a reason to flood legal channels is the goal and not the side effect.
God the American public is so stupid.
somehow, they will definitely have a loophole for private jets …
If you have a private jet then you will probably just pay the fine and consider it a parking fee.
Reminds me of an actor/comedian that claimed to have ran a stop sign in front of a cop during a torrential downpour. When the cop is standing outside the car in the downpour and asked if the driver knew why he was pulled over the driver replied, "yeah, do you know why I ran the stop sign?"
🤔 a substance or device released into atmosphere for the express purpose of affecting the temperature or sunlight intensity
Are they trying to ban misters, solar shades, and umbrellas?
They are going to ban any reference to a round earth next
Don't forget spray sunscreen, and possibly minorities having sex?
Sorry outdoor restaurants, gonna need you to remove the umbrellas from your tables. They're classified as an apparatus used for the express purpose of reducing the intensity of sunlight.
Uh, how does that qualify as "released into the atmosphere"
I mean during a tornado it could potentially be within violation but at that point there's probably bigger issues.
The atmosphere starts where the ground ends.
I guess that means your head is in the clouds.
Wouldn't put it past our court's ability to interpret it that way.
Truth
Wait until airlines get fined for "chem trails"?
Or all the airlines pull out of Florida. (I realize that will not, but a boy can dream)
And also the Florida cruise industry collapses.
I fully support this bill. In our laboratory of democracy I think states should have the right to idiocy themselves into economic irrelevance.
Eh, it's fairly unlikely but not that far fetched. A lot of insurance companies have pulled out of Florida now. So why not airlines if they start getting fined for bullshit reasons.
Oh they could and the old people there would suddenly be on Florida’s ass about this stupid law and get it changed very very quickly.
Rockets also leave contrails.
Republicans: chemtrails bad
Unless it's just air, land, or sea pollution from our chronies.
God they're insufferable.
Ok. Then they can stop all the measures taken to protect citrus from freezing. That’s weather modification.
Their state might sink under the ocean, but at least the sky will be free of linear water vapor. Freedom!
The "chemtrails" will continue, because they're a natural side effect of airliner travel in certain conditions.
Dumb Floridians will call authorities.
What will the state do? Tell the airlines they are liable for something they aren't doing?
The farce has to end somewhere.
Edit: let's just hope it ends before hillbillies feel justified for shooting at passenger aircraft.
I mean... Contrails are bad for the climate and should be avoided, and it wouldn't cost that much more.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/03/12/1089620/how-rerouting-planes-to-produce-fewer-contrails-could-help-cool-the-planet/
Tho we all know that they accidentally stumbled into maybe a good idea.
I had absolutely no clue that they had an impact, much less such a significant one. Thanks for sharing!
Also interesting:
Unfortunately tinfoil hats could be classified as an apparatus that reduces the intensity of sunlight, so those are gonna have to go as well.
So what about when Florida crops are starved for rain?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding
Kids. Don't do drugs.
Kids, don't be morons.
So when people say, the democrats do nothing, do they mean in comparison to bills like this? I mean, technically You're right, but... dear god.
Lewis Black on the difference between Democrats and Republicans
That won’t work. Most of their constituents think they will become ghosts soon
Oh boy, political theater. Assuming it's not their actual crackpot belief. Given the Orange Idiot's cabinet picks though, I wouldn't bet in that assumption being accurate.
The Disney spray nozzles during Summer are weather modifications! Get them!
The qons seem to be getting stupider by the day.
A grand chess move until the jurisdiction ceases to apply three nautical miles out from the coast line where international waters are under federal control... Oh,I see where this is going.
Sounds like a $10,000 fee to chem trail all over their state.
So they are finally going to combat climate change? By making driving and heating mostly, and breathing in general illegal?
No, because as the article says it's only emissions done for the express purpose of changing the weather that the bill forbids. That's how they make it legal to break things but illegal to even try to fix them.
Someone's trying to prevent a Snowpiercer