Trump’s Pick to Lead U.S. Military Has Tattoos Linked to White Supremacists and Nazis
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Trump, picking a Fox news host to run the military
"How could this be any worse?"
That motherfucker: takes off shirt
Narrator: "It got worse."
Wait until he opens his mouth and starts talking
Wait until he uses the military to do something even more nefarious than what they usually do around the world
Get an ak. Ar is jam city
I have an AR it has never jammed. I also have an AK that has also never jammed.
Sounds like you don't know how to jam.
I also have a Gibson, it has never jammed.
Hesitate to share some absolutely terrible news about my Smuckers
Did it jam?
Cleaning and maintaining your weapons regularly leads to reliability. FWIW, the AK series are peasants weapons. Which isn't bad.
The M-16 is a jam factory, the M-4 was built to not do that. Slap any nato mag in that bad boy and pew pew
The M-16 did jam however it was due to shitty mags, cheaping out on the barrel, not issuing the grunts proper cleaning kits, and not giving them a manual of arms for handling the new weapon in a jungle environment.
Also Mr. president of the universe you're wanted in the galactic council rooms.
Don't go Beeblebrox, it's a trap!
Mine is cheap as hell and will cycle anything, including steel case ammo of dubious origin and quality. If you have one that is jamming, there might be a defect that requires your attention.
The entire cabinet is something from a comic book. These guys are all cartoonishly evil.
It literally seems like he's just picking a mix of Republicans who are most notorious on social media and people who would make Putin the most happy, so you're not wrong but I don't think it's the actual criterion he's using.
my theory is that this is all one big power move from trump, to show people what he can get away with. i don’t think he cares that much about the individual people he’s nominating, he more so cares about showing people that he can pick literally anyone he wants and no one will stop him.
And Trump is bypassing all background checks by the FBI.
Of course he does. These are all complete garbage human beings. Can't wait to hear the moronic defense of this is somehow not racist.
“It’s all just a joke.”
Who doesn't tattoo jokes onto their body?
emo kids with dotted lines on their wrists sweating right now
Same for us guys with "Your Name" on our asses
The chungus I have poking out of my butt cleavage is gonna get me put on a list isn't it
Just did. "People With Tattoos I Wanna See"
My butt cleavage is pretty uneventful. I got that put there to give the colonoscopy techs a laugh.
My wife is a tattoo artist, and lots of people do.
But, he isn't one of those people.
"It's going to be a maze."
"As soon as I get my next check and pay off my payday loan and pill guy"
When does Russia invade to de-nazify the US?
(They already have, comrade. And your citizens voted it in)
Here's another question:
If Russia launched a nuke at the US, would puppet trump use the launch codes?
Probably not because he would probably tell Putin to target a major Democratic city center
Dearborn, MI would probably be high on the list.
High Muslim population. Heavy Democratic leaning (except this year. Lol)
One obvious one NYC, but he wouldn't want to hurt his property value.
So, pretty much the entire pacific coast.
The launch codes are
00000anyway, so...You're missing three zeros.
more like that insane fuck would nuke some place as final middle finger before he dies to old age
The reason republicans were able to take over is because liberals brains have been turned into soup
look at this shit
I had to check if this was a bad freeze frame or what and nope she fires that hand out straight as a goddamn arrow and leaves it like that. She wasn’t caught mid-wave, just straight up doing the ol’ nazi salute.
It’s wild that these people are using the same imagery as the nazis. You’d think that they’d have their own brand as most people aren’t knowingly the bad guys and the ones that are are generally smarter than that but they just can’t fuckin’ help larp as the poster children for worst thing the modern world has dealt with(though more recent times are making it look kinda normal).
If this person gets clearance and is not open about the hate group ties, that can be grounds for prosecution. The big question will be whether or not anyone cares.
Yeah, I'm sure AG Gaetz will get right on that
Oh, yeah, that will happen with Matt "baby-rapin'" Gaetz as AG. Hell it wouldn't happen with Milquetoast Merrick Garland because that would be "political".
Anybody in the trump cabinet who does not present video proof of them raping a child or committing hate crimes while doing nazi salutes is going to be prosecuted for disloyalty.
It's the trump white house resume.
Yeah, the news-media is salivating on all the clicks it's receiving right now.
Almost if it's benefiting them that Trump was elected. Hmm.
Couldn't possibly be gaslighting the country about a mentally incapacitated incumbent until 2 months from the election
Might as well make the most of it before they get censored lol.
Trump nominating a Literal Nazi to lead our Military is PROOF that DEMOCRATS were Overreacting!
Some of those that work forces...
Some?
Rage Against the Machine lyrics.
I’m aware.
The original lyric was:
“Some of those that hold office are the same that burn crosses.”
"Trump Accountability War Room". Because suddenly presidential accountability is VERY important.
.....wait, what?
Also, using the term "war room" for everything. Peak USA.
what’s the point of a room if you can’t have a war in it
The war room was a joke in Dr. Strangelove, so of fucking course it became a real thing.
It's important to me that y'all realize war rooms are a real thing, have been for centuries if not millennia, and weren't invented for movies or news.
Well calling it a Revenge Room would have been too obvious.
Just copied Alberta Canada. We have had a war room for years now. A war room can’t climate activists I think it is.
Gotta admit, that's pretty damn cool, for Canada, anyway.
Yeah I think you missed my point there, scooter. I'm questioning the reasoning. As in, "after hundreds of years, you are saying that ONLY NOW do we need an "Office of Accountability"? Boggles my mind. Where was this 200 FUCKING YEARS AGO? Oh, "BUT ITS TRUMP, SOMEONE NEEDS TO KEEP AN EYE ON HIM" Holy fuck. Everyone is just
So
Stupid
People shouldn’t fear governments. Governments should fear their people.
I love this.
V for Vendetta is going to absolutely melt your mind, as it should.
You know what, I'm starting to think you guys really should start building that wall around you.
Allies kill Nazis, Allies have babies, babies become assholes, assholes have baby Nazis.
Nazis eat man, woman inherits the earth.
Are we surprised?
No.
HELL no.
Probably why trump picked him
So, Nazi Germany has returned.
It's gonna be more like Nazi battle Royale. We got some major tribalism brewing here.
Mango Mussolini and his selections are identical to the worms Mao, Adolph, Joseph and Hideki chose. However, the Nazis were not religious in the traditional sense and they threw plenty Catholic and Protestant priests into their concentration camps. The ones who agreed, wore the cross next to the swastika.
Reminds me of Putin and his buddy Dmitry Utkin, initial founder of the Wagner mercenary group with multiple tattoos that show the symbol of the Waffen-SS, as well as other Nazi symbols.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/28/who-was-dmitry-utkin-a-key-wagner-mercenary-who-died-alongside-prigozhin
This is what USA actually is.
Trump simply gave them permission to remove their masks. America is, and always has been, and always will be, a racist country founded on racist principles.
I found the documentary "Bad Faith" to be quite enlightening. Highly recommend it:
https://www.badfaithdocumentary.com/
Edit: For understanding more of the context of white christian nationalism, white supremacy, etc
That makes sense. There's a reason that the 3 European counties who actaully choose fascism were the 3 most Christian: Germany Italy and Spain. No true Scotsman argument withstanding, well over 90% of people in nazi Germany were Christian, for example.
Its not all Christians of course and I don't have any problem with the vast, vast majority of them but there are parts of the bible that can and have been very deliberately bastardised by people for centuries and others just read literally in a way that can be formed into something really horrible. I might not believe in God but I do agree with Christians when they say the Bible is a powerful book. However, like all powerful things, it can be and is being misused, per the book itself.
One of the central points of the documentary is that Christian Nationalism isn't about Christianity. It's in direct violation of many of the central tenants of Christianity... not that that's stopped Christians before. But it's the perfect vessel to encapsulate a white supremacist power play.
he also doesn't believe in germ theory
Miller and this guy. Two confirmed Nazis... this is going to end up great. /s
Oh...right.
Very dangerous and the US military will soon resemble the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, because of their insanity towards religion. God is not the the MAGATs.
No one should be surprised, this book was written 12 years ago:
"Irregular Army: How the US Military Recruited Neo-Nazis, Gang Members, and Criminals to Fight the War on Terror"
Of course they do.
so he'll fit right in
So just like a lot of the military
Actually the military aggressively weeds out and removes "out right" racist and those with extreme ideologies. Turns out having racist in your military units doesn't lead to a effective fighting force. Yes there are racist people in the military and it has always been a white male dominated institution. Do to the mixing of all walks of life (kind of like college.) I honestly believe if push comes to shove the military would back the people over Trump. That's been the true goal of the whole woke military hearings to Congress.
Same goes for gang related tats. My sister had to explain that she was not in fact part of the Latin Kings for the crown on her shoulder, just a maid in a Mardi Gras crew.
Donald's Eleven
Confirmed: doesn't know his head from his toes
Might be an unpopular comment, but I googled the Jerusalem cross and it appears to be more of a religious symbol than anything.
Saying he has tattoos linked with white nationalists is just sensationalism. And it has gotten the exact response in this thread that it wanted.
Edit:
For the pitchfork wielding lemmings, if you search for “Jerusalem cross” on ADL Hate Symbol Searcg, it returns ZERO results.
Hating on this guy because you misinterpreted a tattoo that he has only makes you and people like you look ridiculous. And when the next guy stands up and says actual hateful things, WE won’t have a voice because YOU wasted it on garbage news stories like this one.
Might be an unpopular comment, but I googled the Swastika and it appears to be more of a religious symbol than anything.
😂 Clearly you googled neither… literally every link for “swastika” mentions nazis. Google “Jerusalem cross” and the only posts you see related to white nationalism are Reddit posts with people asking if the symbol is related to white nationalism/nazis and nearly every comment saying it is not.
Edit: so many downvotes from people that also put 0 effort into looking this up.
They might mean other tattoos, he seems to have a collection.
It still makes him a religious weirdo, possibly with a bizarre crusade fetish. Not a great look.
The article specifically mentioned that tattoo and no other ones… I’m not saying this dude is qualified for the job. There’s probably tons of legit reasons to hate this pick.
This article is just rage bate, though. And judging by this thread it is a successful one.
It also means he's a terrible Christian because Christians are not supposed to tattoo themselves 🙄
Yes and the swastika is the symbol of well-being
Not to detract from this guy likely yes being a massive nazi piece of shit-
-but many deeply religious Polish Catholics who lived through WW2 and the atrocities, had (maybe still have, idk my grandparent and aunties who did are now dead) Jerusalem crosses on their walls, usually displayed alongside their many JP2 pictures, crucifixes and black madonna's.
Also not to say that many of these Polish Catholics weren't also massive racists, but I'm pretty sure the Jerusalem crosses they displayed were a Catholic thing for them rather than a white supremacy thing.
(Edited for identifying information)
It's been coopted by the far right for a while now. Pete is not a Polish Babushka, the symbol has a different meaning to him.
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/
Edit:
there’s specific reference to the Jerusalem Cross here. https://www.mccaininstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/white-supremacy-and-anti-government-groups-read-ahead-materials.pdf The Adl link is to look up other terms in general
There's a version of the Jerusalem Cross used by Episcopalian service members, according to Wikipedia. I'm not American, so I don't know the exact connotation of the symbol on that side of the pond, it could still be harmless. As an outsider, I'd associate it with the crusades (or the country of Georgia), but it doesn't have to be intended that way.
Now, the fact that he's a Trump appointee automatically makes him suspect, of course, but it's less like "He has a Nazi tattoo, therefore Trump appointed a Nazi" and more "Trump appoints Nazis, therefore the tattoo is a Nazi tattoo".
It's a symbol that's been coopted by hate groups. I understand the reticence to call it a hate symbol as it can be used by people in a different cultural context. The far right took Celtic runes and the Celtic cross from me and my people and turned them into symbols of hate. They've done it with Norse runes as well. It's what they do, the swastika was originally a symbol of peace and trust.
So yes context matters. Trump appoints alt right nut jobs who twist the meaning of cultural symbols so that they can spread a message of hate. This is what I am upset about, and likely others are as well.
Were you linking to a specific entry in their database? The link took me to the database as a whole, and I couldn't find any mention of the Jerusalem Cross when searching it.
When searching elsewhere, I see similar results as the above commenter. There's mostly discussions of its Christian meaning and some reddit posts that argue that it's a symbol of hate due to its association with the crusades.
However, there was a different post from somebody who got a tattoo of it and was worried when people said it gave them Nazi-ish vibes. The commenters on the post assured him that it's not a white supremacist symbol, but it was probably reminding people of the Iron Cross.
Hey sorry yeah, there's specific reference to the Jerusalem Cross here. The Adl link is to look up other terms in general
White nationalist rhetoric moves quickly https://www.mccaininstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/white-supremacy-and-anti-government-groups-read-ahead-materials.pdf
Edit: corrected the link
Ah yes, there it is. That does seem to correlate with one of the reddit posts that I saw, but they didn't seem to agree that this symbol had been adopted by contemporary hate groups. They merely indicated that it is controversial due to its association with the crusades. However, that lack of understanding outside of hate groups is the point of using these historical symbols as dog-whistles.
Yes this is how dog-whistles work. If you want more context you can check out what the SPLC and Unicorn Riot have been up to
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2024/08/19/we-will-fight-soldier-waging-war-against-america-fort-liberty
There's also a network of folk in WP and Nationalist discords and truth social etc. that are collecting and reporting metadata to the authorities. Which is difficult as the FBI often do nothing unless there's CSAM or other pedo shit going on.
I grew up Catholic and my family was mostly Irish and Italians but I never saw that particular cross. Even Polish people (lots of them here in Chicago) I knew tended to have things like the black madonna or our lady of sorrows.
Also this guy isn't Polish.
I think the appeal to the far right would be its similarity to the iron cross. When I saw it on the guy, having never seen the Jerusalem cross before despite my catholic background, I honestly thought it was an iron cross.
It's a bit like people in Europe who wear the confederate flag and when asked claim that they just really like that corny US sitcom from the 70s with an orange car in it. Of course that's just a plausible cover since overt European fascist or nazi symbols are illegal, so instead they fly the battle flag of a racist slave-state from a different continent.
Never said the guy was Polish, just that plenty of the elder religious folk I grew up around had that cross in their houses and that it likely had a religious meaning, before being co-opted by the far right, that may still be in use with some groups.
Also I'm in the UK and my Polish family here arrived in the 60's, so likely a different cultural group to many of the Polish Catholic's in the US who, from what I've gathered, emigrated much earlier.
Yes, and any cross is a symbol of white nationalism because they were used by the KKK.
Not every symbol used by racist people is a symbol of racism. You gave the one most extreme example where a symbol was co-opted and can never mean anything else again.
And you gave an example of why dog whistles work, plausible deniability.
Honest question, are there examples of this symbol being used by white nationalists regularly?
I’ve done some light googling and looked at more photos of white nationalist rallies than I ever want and I didn’t see this symbol in any of them. Even adl.org doesn’t mention this cross.
there’s specific reference to the Jerusalem Cross here. https://www.mccaininstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/white-supremacy-and-anti-government-groups-read-ahead-materials.pdf The Adl link is to look up other terms in general
Like the universal ok symbol. My good that was so stupid.
Exactly. I had a guy I worked with that used examples of liberals complaining about the OK symbol as an excuse to ignore every awful thing Trump did and said during his 2016 election and while he was in office.
I’m not saying he wouldn’t have done that anyway, but we make it so easy for them to ignore us!
I am looking at other photos. I can also see "Ne Desit Virtus" (Let Valor Not Fail) with a sword. That's a symbol from the 187th Infantry Regiment. I also see the Chi Rho symbol, a Greek symbol for the name of Christ. Another tattoo is "MDCCLXXV" for 1775. Above that tattoo is an American Flag with a gun superimposed on it. I am not sure if these mean a recalling of the US War for Independence. The gun looks modern but could also serve as a bridge to the modern military of the US. On his other arm is "Deus Vult."
Broadly speaking, these tattoos suggest both military service and Christian identity.
Not found are any symbols I've seen identified with White Nationalism. No Valknot, swastika, black sun, 88 symbol, Confederate symbolism, etc.
Edit: The photo I was looking at is here: [https://i.imgur.com/kkroDES.png].
Deus Vult has indeed been co-opted by white supremacists along with a lot of crusader/christian symbolism.
Almost like its coded so as to not blatantly say "I'm a white supremist" while also clearly signaling to people he is.
Are people just learning about plausible deniability?
Now that said, sure this could be a nothing burger, but when coupled to be right wing....
What's that saying?
You find me a nazi I can sure bet they'd be voting Republican.
No the people in this thread are deliberate nazis trying to normalize that shit and your instances are such trash that they don't get moderated
https://www.adultliteracyleague.org/resources/
as if the crusaders were egalitarian
Dude is definitely a nut, but when we start throwing around terms like “white nationalists” for things that are absolutely not white nationalism, it dilutes the impact of claims about people who legitimately are white nationalists.
Political echo chambers have been in "Two Minutes of Hate" mode for years now. Throw every insult imaginable at your opponents. Even if it doesn't fit, even if it doesn't make sense. Just hold someone up and go "This is the bad man! Boo the bad man! Boooooo!" Anyone who cares ask "Why are we booing? And what makes this man bad?" Is immediately silenced by others because it's just so obvious he's a bad man. Look at all the other people booing him!
Meanwhile his face is digitally changed to a bleating goat, and the people cheer.
This happens on both right and left wing echo chambers.
Only USAians will see somebody with a flag tattoo and not think "this is fascist scum".
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/ Christo-fascists can hate just like Nazis can.
Hi, I’ve never heard of adl.org, but I searched for Jerusalem cross on this site and found no results. Does that work as confirmation that this symbol is NOT a white nationalist symbol?
It's been coopted by the far right for a while now. Pete is not a Polish Babushka, the symbol has a different meaning to him, here’s specific reference to the Jerusalem Cross amd deus vult here. https://www.mccaininstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/white-supremacy-and-anti-government-groups-read-ahead-materials.pdf
It’s also used fairly prominently in the episcopal church in the USA, I grew up with that symbol and it had nothing to do with white nationalism / christofascism
Deus Vult added to his collection does add some awfully strong attribution to them being the dog whistles I bet they are.
And Biden's senile ass is still going to hand over power.
As opposed to? Doing the thing we screamed about MAGAs doing? People expect a lot out of Biden here, which is funny since so many people couldn't get off their asses and vote to prevent this from happening.
Use the office to make convicted felons (in relation to fraud or truthfulness) unable to hold higher office which is the law for most state governments but quizzically not the highest office.
If I understood the supreme Court right, one legal option would be to kill them all officially... /s
No s.
That was the ruling, and I'm going to laugh my ass off when it gets used against the "high roaders"
Exactly. America has done this to itself. We absolutely deserve whatever happens at this point.
That's not how any of this works.
Lol, liberals.
I'm sorry what?!
That level of disingenuous knot tying is utterly baffling.
You know damn well that after WW2, all of those symbols ostensibly became inextricably linked with the Nazi party. Its the same reason a Swastika no longer automatically conjures images of Hindu and Buddhist peace.
Pretending that its possible that this idiot is somehow repping his pride of Wilhelm II and the glorious Prussian history is so unbelievably intellectually dishonest that it actually somehow manages to be even worse than being flat out racist.
At least Racists are honest. This...whatever this idiotic attempt at obsfucation was that you just shat into our lives is just pedantry that even racists would mock you for.
good god thank you I couldn't find the words
I'm not calling everyone a Nazi.
I'm saying the guy with tattoos on his chest of symbols that have been associated with Nazis since the late 1930s is 99.99999% likely to be a Nazi and not a long lost member of Prussian nobility.
Pretending that because there's a .0000001% chance that his tattoos aren't Nazi inspired just because Prussia existed, is purposeful pedantry, which IMO is worse than outright racism.
See, you're not stupid. You're the worst kind of person. Your not smart. But your not stupid. You have just enough trivia in your head that you can muddle any argument with pedantry just enough that stupid people might read it and think... "hmmm....maybe it WAS a Prussia tattoo." even though you know damn well that a .0000001% chance is as good as 0%. It's dishonest, it's immoral, and it takes advantage of people who don't have the critical thinking skills to call out your bullshit. You are worse than racists because at least racists are honest about it.
I think "Is this guy literally a Nazi" is a pretty important policy question....
It's OK. Some guy with a name like "The4th" says he's not a Nazi. The Fourth what now?
Of July?
hahahah fucking spot on, where is this from ??
Community
FYI you can call a Nazi a Nazi. It's fine.
They already are the thing I hate. They tattooed symbols of murder and genocide on themselves.
I think it’s more the point of do you believe that this person who has the tattoos has them because of the possible history before the Nazis and what it represented or because the Nazis co-opted the symbol for their purposes and he’s representing their ideals.
While it may be true that there are other reasons to also criticize, I believe those who think the latter would take it seriously. I have more trouble believing someone in this day and age has the tattoos to represent the historical aspect of the symbol.
The 4th what bud?