Donald Trump's election win could lead to porn being banned
Summary
Project 2025, a manifesto supported by the conservative Heritage Foundation, calls for a ban on pornography, labeling its purveyors as criminals and advocating for strict penalties, including jail time for producers and registered sex offender status for educators distributing it.
The manifesto argues that porn lacks First Amendment protection, framing it as harmful and exploitative.
With a right-leaning Supreme Court, proponents aim to overturn existing protections established in Miller v. California, potentially impacting mainstream media.
Donald Trump has pledged to bring Project 2025 contributors onto his team.
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First president to make pictures of his current wife illegal
First president to have actual nude photos of his wife available.
If any other president, especially a Democrat, had nudes of their wife it would be a scandal.
But America is so beholden to these idiots that it doesn't even matter to anyone.
There are lots of things they do that're scandalous. That's not one of them. There's already enough puritanical bullshit fucking up the US. It's about time some of it were left in the past.
Remember when the right had a meltdown over Michelle Obama’s bare arms.
isn’t that her second amendment right though?
Calling out hypocrisy isn't puritanical.
That's not calling out hypocrisy. That's saying people should care.
One might argue that it's the opposite.
Doesn't this proposal also make anyone who participates in the production of porn into a criminal?
Is the first Lady going to get arrested for her involvement in the creation of porn?
Historically, you can’t be charged for crimes you committed before the law criminalizing them was passed. However, precedence and fair application of the law have lost all meaning so you could be arrested, but she wouldn’t.
Sick burn 🔥
If a book in your classroom or school library has anything beyond a heterosexual peck on the cheek, congratulations, you're now a sex offender. Not a joke.
Oh boy, I can't wait for abstinance to be taught as the only form of sexual education in America.
I'm expecting them to go even further, and just stop doing sex education period.
When the schools close, I guess everybody has to go to Christian school now! No sex education at all, please!
In my school in the Bible belt that was primarily what they focused on. I don't remember much time being given to condoms. I certainly don't remember ever being given one or shown how to use it (not that it's that difficult or anything, but still).
But what I do remember is a speaker coming to our school to talk to us about how he had sex outside of marriage and got a girl pregnant, but he did the right thing and got married. Also, and I cannot stress this enough, he described this as abstaining because he married the person he had sex with.
That was mine... In the early 00s. And again with a guest speaker... In my advanced marketing class... In the late 00s. I will never forget how that lady sat on a desk, explaining with vivid, passionate excitement and lust, how waiting for your life partner to be your first time is, moans and quivers, so good~
The fuck, Smith, I thought we were going to fuck around and watch movies while you go "make some copies" only to never return, like every other day. The fuck is this shit. Even your own kid in this class is visibly distraught and confused. Poor guy is fucking scarred for life.
Well fuck as a published writer who has gsy characters in my books does that mean I will be labeled under this?
Absolutely. The handmaids will rip you to pieces in a public execution.
I hope they actually do it. This is like the abortion issue, if they actually go through with it people will be like "What?? How could this happen??"
And then 2 years pass, and they have completely who banned porn, and why it’s the mistake of Democrats.
You a word
accidentally
Considering the countrybas a whole didn't learn from 2016, there is absolutely no way anything would change.
2016 was different because Hillary was genuinely unlikable. This time we have no excuse
That did really annoyed me.
Sad part is I could see Trump said he wiped it and it would change no vote.
No no no, we can always blame Kamala's laugh.
The major porn sites should go dark right now in protest. On inauguration day. For a month.
Historically speaking people have two things they riot for, safety and comfort. How that comfort manifest varies but pornography is definitely on the same level as whiskey, and the United states has had a rebellion on that.
Well luckily the military has a good chance of not listening to him, atleast in my opinion. The police on the other hand are more of a threat, though not an insurmountable one.
The liberal officers are going to resign in protest then pat themselves on the back and call it integrity.
Then the fascists are going to follow orders.
Luckily the chain of command helps dilute the worst of this type of effect. As I understand it most orders will have to go through the folks at the Pentagon first and they could very well just say no or otherwise pull some malicious compliance.
Reminder the military has a more or less parallel system to the civil system. Its entirely possible they may just decide to separate themselves more or less.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/
I am so fucking tired of Lemmy living in an alternate reality where liberal leadership will somehow magically get its shit together when it matters, like this hasn't been a completely predictable trend over decades, where Someone Important will fucking Do Something.
I live in an area with veterans and its a bit more of a mixed bag. Most of them are dissolutioned with the system, its not that they dont have political leanings they just hate both. The ones who are politically active are usually lowd and dumb as fuck Republicans, the JD Vance type. The few I met who were commissioned officers were fucking feral and had nothing good to say about the right.
Remember the split in the veterans will be based broadly on education similar to the general public. And frankly speaking the actual folks at the Pentagon are pretty well educated.
Also I will happily admit that this is me hoping for a somewhat workable scenario. Im Californian which means I am in the perfectly cooked chicken zone of this soon to be nuclear blast, watching a bunch of mush brained dipshits play with the nuke. I practically cant do fuck all.
Good thing we spent the last 25 years giving the police surplus military equipment.
Honestly a good amount of that shit is of questionable function, reminder most of the good shit is going to the national guard first. The police are at best using old ass NVG and optics, maybe they have a functional IFV but itll be of questionable maintenance. My local police department gave up and just has the Sheriff department do anything that requires more than a rifle, mostly cause the mechanics refused to work on the humvee they got.
Also the police arent exactly trained for an actual resistance movement, itll be likely a more embarrassing version of the union and county wars.
That scares me more, honestly. The police riding around in a malfunctioning APC....
Honestly fhe worst that can happen is the engine decides its in fact a fire pit. Otherwise it will just be a boring ass breakdown, transmission failure is pretty common in military vehicles as a general rule. Reminder the US military is a logistics network with an army meaning that just cause they can keep a vehicle running doesnt mean even the oversized budget of LAPD can.
THE GOONER REBELLION, WOOOOO!
YOU CAN HAVE MY PORNHUB ACCOUNT WHEN YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD, DEAD PENIS!
I can't even use pornhub in my state anymore. I found pornslash recently but I'm sure it'll be whack-a-mole porn sites, if this goes through.
Unironically yes.
The porn ban will just be the excuse they use to crack down on VPNs so they can implement a full on Chinese style internet censorship program.
Goof luck for the companies depending on VPNs...but hey, Donnie's going to crash the economy anyway, so why fret.
Tank it purposefully and then say he's the only one who can fix it.
Oh man do I ever hope they ban porn in the US. That would be fucking hilarious.
That's a terrible way to think
If you don’t think the incel groups that are super pro trump getting their porn privileges revoked isn’t funny as fuck, you’re wrong.
Incels do not consume legal porn. That why they are so fucked up.
What? Streaming porn is not illegal.
They were not so subtly calling incels pedos.
Oh. I’m a moron. Thanks for being patient with my brain worms.
I love that brain worms has fully entered the lexicon at this point. Can’t wait for those New Year recaps.
Streaming porn is not illegal... yet. Incels consume porn you can't stream. That's what I meant with "illegal porn".
As hard as you try you can never stop people from posting porn on the internet. It would be as big of a disaster as the war on drugs.
A law that virtually everyone breaks and is easily selectively enforced is extremely valuable to authoritarian regimes. It's a wildcard to imprison whoever they want.
What are you even talking about
You will accept your rights being stripped away and you'll fucking like it.
Hilarious. As if this could ever actually be instituted nationwide. Regulations on sale and access maybe, but moral crusades like this are perpetually doomed to failure, much like the War on Drugs.
Doesn't mean they won't try, won't posture, won't grandstand about it, but to actually succeed in this goal when over 50% of the populace isn't going to be behind it? I guess we'll just have to watch them try.
It's not to try and ban porn
It's a way to snoop on all Internet traffic.
Like cops "smelling weed" anytime they want to hassle someone. If they don't like a person, they'll spy on their Internet usage, obviously find some kind of porn, and then make a public spectacle out of to distract from what they're mad at that person for.
They don't care about the crime, they want an excuse to investigate people they don't like.
Say something mean on twitter, and they'll search your IP till they find something they can call porn.
They'll say they're gonna ban it and when there's uproar they'll say to "protect the kids" you need a digital ID to access porn. Then they'll expand it to everything, ban VPN's, encryption and there will be no more privacy. Big brother is watching, and if he deems you too woke, for whatever arbitrary reason, you're off to the gulag.
Sadly people won't react before it's too late because " it will never happen here ! " and till then we think like that because "conspiration"
Every fascist takeover starts with "Oh, you're just overreacting."
Everyone, remember these six words:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out....
Oklahoma already did this. Can't access porn unless you first submit an ID.
Yes, my comment was based on historical facts and indicators. It wasn't a hypothetical.
It's also the pretext for a pogrom against LGBTQ, whose existence in public will be redefined as "pornographic."
And to be clear, this isn't supposition, it's already literally happening in Florida.
Florida is the model for what they want to do everywhere.
It’s also a way to enforce ideological purity in education.
The war on drugs only failed if you truly believe its goal was getting rid of drugs.
To quote John Erlichman, one of its architects:
By the strandards of what it was created to do, the war on drugs was fantastically successful.
The war on porn will be successful in exactly the same way, because Republicans have already spent decades redefining all LGBTQ content as "pornographic". This is will be a tool for disrupting queer and trans communities, for erasing queer and trans resources and tearing down queer and trans rights activists. Stopping porn isn't the point, and it never was.
Oooof, too true
Strange comparison. The war on drugs wrecked so many lives, and hasn't really ended, just cooled off a little. I don't see that as a cause for optimism.
It's meant as a comparison in terms of Moral Crusades via Prohibition tactics. I have a feeling that a "ban" on pornography will likely end the same way, with hyperbolic responses and lives disrupted to no positive resolutions. But it really seems untenable as a concept, that genie is so far out of the bottle that there is no bottle anymore; only the whole entire internet
They don't care about total enforcement. They'll just use it against their enemies and people they want to take down while protecting their own. Rules for thee etc
This is what people don't seem to grasp about fascism... It doesn't matter. None of the rules or social mores that you've known since you were born will matter anymore.
People need to read some history books, this has happened before. We aren't special, it is already happening here.
No, but they can go after the owners and operators of major porn sites and have them shut down (and possibly executing them). Then the subsequent chilling effect that will occur, making sure nobody dares try to take their place.
You could probably use a VPN and find stuff, but say goodbye to pornhub, youporn, xvideos, etc. And in certain states they will probably make accessing it illegal (or simply using a VPN at all. And no, it will not matter that they're legitimately needed for all sorts of legal shit, it'll be used at the government's discretion (which means singling out people who are using it to access porn. Until it isn't, and they use it for whatever they want because they are the law).
This is what fascism is. People really don't seem to grasp this. We need to stop viewing he world from this current paradigm, because come January 20, this nation will become unrecognizable.
Do it.
Fuck around and find out.
The sad thing is, the nation will care more about porn than abortion rights. 🤦♂️
So? The president is a felon. Crime is legal.
Least important effect of a Trump presidency - but I'm sure if he did this it'd be the straw that broke the camel's back for Gen Z Trumpers.
The one thing this election has all but confirmed for me is that over half of the country supports these things unabashedly, and I highly doubt porn will be the hero that magically changes these people. It's already banned in multiple conservative states, and all of them just voted red again.
Honestly, I believe that if the Trump admin brought back prohibition, his bootlickers would be the first in line telling us how it's the best idea ever.
Don't even joke about that.
He wouldn't do it. There's too much money being made there to already wealthy people that support him. I could see him threatening and blackmailing to get a piece of the pie though.
Then maybe they should have known that Project 2025 called for that before they decided to vote for Trump.
Violence against women is about to skyrocket when the incels can't get a date because they're too repulsive and can't watch porn to take out their sexual frustrations because of what they voted for.
Those kids would be very angry if they could read
Nah, genZ are apparently prudes. They have less sex and apparently don't like fan service in media. Puritanism and teetotaling is the new counterculture.
I've suspected the less sex has more to do with hookup culture being undesirable and lack of face-to-face communication. Not to mention "who can afford kids in this economy?"
I dislike fanservice because it often seems shoehorned in, adding no value outside itself whatsoever and as such taking away from the rest.
Mind you if I want smut,I just watch smut. Simple as
Not least important when you think about how they define "porn"
Nope, still pretty unimportant.
I'm pretty sex positive and pro-porn myself but compared to deporting legal immigrants with the wrong skin color or forcing motherhood on unconsenting women it's pretty unimportant.
Also like... destroying our entire government bureaucracy.
their definition of porn = all queer people. Do you realize this? They want to arrest queer people for existing
We're back to 1920s. Mafia will bootleg porn from Mexico and Canada.
And of course they will use it as an excuse to implement complete surveillance on all your devices.
Excellent - maybe we will all kick our* cell phone addiction
And again, the US totally failed to learn from history. This time, even their own history. Do you actually have history classes in school, or has this been replaced by "American" "football" or "Cheerleading" classes already?
Hint: I'm talking about 1920 to 1933, when organized crime in the US was thriving like mad due to a similar stupid idea. This time, it won't be any better. Keywords: Volstead Act and Cullen-Harrison Act
It makes me wonder what the rest of the country outside my state is even learning. When I was in high school, it felt like WW2 was the ONLY history being taught in regular history class. I had to take an elective, AP, European history class just to learn something other than the American revolution, the civil war, civil rights movement, women's sufferage, and WW2.
This was consistently for me too. I learned more world history from PC games than I did in school.
My history classes were how heroic the founding fathers were (nothing about how they owned slaves until college), how the civil war was about states rights, how we kicked total ass in WW2 except FDR was kind of a dictator and had too many terms, and how LBJ fucked up Vietnam and it was his fault we lost. They did offer an AP History class and it was a bit more truthful than what I had so far up to that point, but was still subject to the same school board’s oversight.
It was very “both sides had a point but the rightmost point is the correct one”.
This was in the 90s and early 2000s in rural Appalachia.
Once I got to college I was like uhhhh what? It’s crazy to me that the federal government subsidizes and provides education that is going to lead to its own downfall. Maybe we DO need to dismantle the department of Education.
Holy shit did I just red pill myself?
Joking of course. These people can’t even govern their own impulses (see Epstein and rampant pedophilia on the right).
In high school we had one year of "world" history that went something like this:
Man "appeared" in Africa
Sometime later planted corn and stuff
Egypt, Italy and China had big dynasties and stuff
Now let's talk about the important history: Western Europe and more importantly America!!!
America is awesome - we do cool stuff and we are amazing oh yea the natives ... well they were well.. uh America is awesome!
WWII we kicked ass
Communism is bad
Vietnam war happened
Have a great summer kids!
First, they came for the trans people* and I did nothing because I am not trans.
Then they came for the immigrants and I did nothing because I am not an immigrant.
Then they came for women's rights and I did nothing because I am not a woman.
Then they came for the... wait, what? Hold up!
* They came really hard for the trans people. Like strangely hard. Like they had some kind of fixation.
They're very strangely into trans people, obsessive even, they think about it constantly
Some might say they're chasing trans folks.
Italy greets you with its piracy shield.
Can they actuate such measures? Of course they can, look at Italy. Is it realistic? Well, that depends on how stupid they are. Italy has blocked google trying to ban piracy and the "shield" is easily avoided with a vpn, but hey, they are trying.
And also they accidentally blocked Cloudflare before Google
The internet was designed to be resilient and route around damage.
Censorship is 'damage'
Time to start stockpiling.
I’ve been preparing for this moment for the past two decades.
Almost a decade for me.
4 TB SSD is on sale all of a sudden. Hmmmm
I mean invest in VPN stocks then?
Your provider knows what you're getting, and Pornhub is based in the US.
Hey look, someone has no idea how a VPN works!
I do, in fact, but feel free to believe what you want.
Obviously not lol
Duuuuhhhhh it's encrypted when it goes through the magic Internet tubes from the servers owned by the same fucking capitalists that own the ISPs, and, some might hazard, state honeypot programs, how will they know???????
The ads told me this product would protect my privacy for $9.99 a month! They can't lie in those!
Proved my point (in many more words then necessary, to boot) 👍
Normies, lol.
Sit down Billy Madison, you're embarrassing yourself.
It's fucking absurd that Lemmings of all people don't understand that a system you don't control is not secure.
Nope. It's owned by Canadian Aylo
My b, I stand corrected.
Pornhub will live until the Canadian elections.
lol, no they don't and lol, no they aren't.
If you don't have access to a good VPN (one based outside of the US) and a separate thumb drive for TailsOS, I suggest getting both and learning how to use them before it becomes a lot more difficult to do so
I suspect VPNs will become a legal target as well…
The police and law enforcement use having a VPN as a reason to surveil.
"what do you dare trying to hide from us ?!?" is act ii from the play entitled "pick up that can, citizen"
I've been stockpiling since 2015
If porn is made illegal, only criminals will have porn.
The only way to stop a bad guy with some porn...
Download all the porn right now before it gets banned
I have been downloading porn since 2001. Fear not!
How big is your collection?
I restart every 4tbs
4tbs? I don't have that much. But I gotta double check.
step 1) download 20TB of porn
step 2) build a $8k AI server that will train on all the porn
step 3)????
step 4) endlessly beat your meat until it falls off
I'd forgo porn before i utilized AI for it.
That's just gross.
i grew up in an era where if you squinted and cocked your head a bit, hey... doesn't that look like a tit?
when you're sad and horny, you'll fap to just about anything.
You might. I'll just use my imagination.
Professionals have standards.
No porn star can sue you if there's no porn star
The incels fucked around and will find out.
The Americans can choose between Vlad's Russia, CCP China, 1979 Iran and All of the Above. WTF, the fucking Nazis did not ban porn.
Good luck! Literally all his fan base are probably rabid porn junkies.
Ironically, they're also significantly more likely to watch transgender porn. People are weird and stupid.
I'm sure they'll get a secret pass.
I guess I gotta do my part and jack off twice a day or more to get the best of the porn we still have.
Do you want angry fat basement dwellers to rise up? Take away their porn. Let's see how this plays out.
Half of them have heart attacks walking up the stairs and the other half turn to ash when touched by sunlight.
The first half have something in common with Trump then.
Bahahahahaha
They're doing their own version of Iranian revolution aren't they.
And watch the GDP of the country fall by trillions.
Cannot wait for black market porn. lmao
I have a couple friends that already distribute.
This would be the one thing that would cause a shift.
Many deeply red states already banned porn a few years back. They voted for Trump again. Conservatives are happy to ban porn.
No it wouldn't. It would be normalized and people would forget it was a thing.
VPN sponsor spots are going to contain a lot of eyebrow wiggling with references to censored content
*will
Its already psuedo-banned in some states, not outright, but PornHub and others are blocked in a number of states.
You could probably take an educated guess as to which states with nearly 100% accuracy.
It was their trial run, now they want to deploy that nationwide, incrementally chipping away at it.
This is exactly their play.
Literally the last thing I'm worried about in this presidency.
Downloading intensifies
No, you dont get it. They want to do it precisely because everyone has a porn-producing camera in their pocket, and they can selectively enforce what gets prosecuted. Who wants to bet they go after the gay "porn" first? (And by porn, I mean "picture of two men kissing")
Exactly. This will be just like the "war on drugs" - something to weaponize against groups they don't like.
I don't think even the war on drugs is a strong enough comparison. I don't think we have anything in our nation's history that will compare to the transformation that will occur come January 20.
The nation will become unrecognizable. This paradigm of, "we need good candidates," and, "the Democrats need to pander more to the left" shit will cease to exist, because fair elections will cease to exist. Political parties will be declared terrorist organizations, and many people will likely be executed (or at the very least, imprisoned for a very long time, simply for identifying as a Democrat).
There is no analogy for this. Not in US history at least...
Indeed. This is the breakdown of individual rights people were referring to.
I’m sure it will start with some sort of “think of the children.”
Again, at the risk of repeating myself: they will not need subpoenas dude. That's not how fascism works. The corporations will become an arm of the government, to be used at the whim of its sole leader, or they will be eliminated.
This has happened before.
People are still talking as if things will just continue as normal, and there will be rule of law that is in any way fair. Please wake up, people.
you also had to have a just a single brain cell advantage over slime mold to not vote that fascist shithead back into office.
So you're saying MAGA won't be able to access porn?
When will people realize that none of that shit matters anymore. They absolutely will ban it, and they will selectively enforce the ban.
That's how fascism works. There's no, "but the people will be upset". Yeah no shit that's the point.
Pot is illegal, and everyone is high, but a cop could make an example out of anyone any time in an illegal state.
Same scenario.