Spain's king and queen pelted with mud in flood-hit Valencia
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having kings and queens in the year 2024 is just entirely ridiculous.
I honestly had no idea that Spain was still a monarchy.
Perfectly valid behaviour. He is the symbol of the state. People are pissed at the state for being slow to react. He is simply dealing with what comes with the job. If he doesn’t-t like it, he can always abdicate.
Abandon people for days > Going to take photos with the same people. What did they expect?
Edit: fix typo
Tell you have no idea how civil protection and emergency response works in Spain without telling me you have no idea how civil protection and emergency response works in Spain.
Emergency response is the responsibility of the autonomous communities not of the national government which only makes resources available to the regional governments. Valencians were abandoned by their own politicians.
I know it all too well; I'm from Valencia and I've seen firsthand how official help barely arrived on time—only the volunteers, the local community, and a few from the UME stepped up. Politicians from both the Valencian Community and Spain promised assistance, but it never came. It took days for official help to show up. Then they come for a visit, just to take photos, like that actually does anything. They cleaned the streets where they were going to walk, but left the rest of the neighborhood a mess. People have lost everything, and the politicians just come to play politics. The reaction is totally understandable.
Woah there mate, clearly the solution is to get more politicians to walk all the streets so that everything gets cleaned. You need more, not less politicians
Hahahah
Apparently they were primarily mad at the politicians, not the royals.
So fucking funny that they chanted against Sanchez when it was their right wing regional party who had a horrendous management of not closing businesses and having tons of people killed. Carlos Mazón is the one who abandoned them, not Sanchez.
For Americans, this is just like Texans that chanted against Biden when Ted Cruz fucking fled with the weather issue they had some time ago.
They chanted against Mazón too: "¡Mazón dimisión!". It's the fault of both Sanchez and Mazón. Both regional and national politics have failed. And the royals are useless; they take a large chunk of money from our taxes and then serve no purpose. It's normal for people to get angry with them.
Then it's OK. I agree that nationally more should have been done, too.
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Perfecto!
This seems like... a bad idea? If I understand you correctly, each region maintains disaster relief infrastructure & staff with help from the central/national government? If so, does that translate to richer regions being less affected by calamities (since they can pour more money into said infrastructure than the bare minimum)?
In most countries (with such plans in place) the national government maintains all disaster relief management to assist local governments, right?
Sorry I've asked a lot of questions, but I'm genuinely interested to know!
Not really, just representative. They are useless. They are just eating spanish money because yes.
Right. But that doesn't really make sense to blame them when they had no power to prevent this either. This should be put onto the actual politicians and all the voters who did not vote for Green politicians (which I would guess includes a lot of the people now trying to scapegoat the royalties here).
The problem with the monarchy is that it costs money and is useless, except for visiting affected places, as if that did any good; they don't provide solutions. At the same time, they have cleaned the streets where they were going to pass but haven't cleaned the rest of the streets, which angered the people.
All of this happened because the monarchy, the president of Spain, and the president of the Valencian Community all came at the same time. Everything added up and ended up like this.
Wow, Spain is even more progressive than England in finding out that their monarchy is nothing more than a resemblance of colonialism and religious death cults.
Deutschlandfunk (German source)
Another source (DPA, English)
Once I was the king of Spain.
Now I eat humble pie. 🤷