For the record, the study they're likely citing was the one that tested less than 15 kids, 3 or more of which did NOT have autism, and the then-doctor permanently crippled one of them in the process of testing for the digestive-neural autism link
(The entire study exists because he wanted to discredit a vaccine to sell his own)
Also remember that correlation isn't causation. Trust me, every autistic person in the West has heard all about how we just need to adjust our gut biome and suddenly we won't be autistic, or we just need to go vegan, or any of a thousand other wonder cures. These cures have been touted since the 1900s, and the people they "work" on are generally agreed to just have learnt to mask better because almost every "treatment", no matter how benign, is horrible to deal with.
Oh, the metaphor goes further. We're not the pilot of the suit, we're not the hardware, we're not the OS of the suit, we're the AI assistant
We speak for it with the other AIs, we get called up to handle things we don't have learned behaviors for, we analyze and provide feedback - we give advice and it feels like we're making decisions, but we're not
FYI fecal transplants are a thing and they address unhealthy microbiomes in the body. Someone else's shit could literally save your life from a c diff infection.
Research like this gives me hope for people like my severely autistic son who has been missing development milestone after development milestone so a fear of mine is that he might eventually have to live in a group home once he's strong enough to overpower us. If a treatment like this can manage symptoms enough to allow him to live independently that would be literally life changing
I've been reading research on the gut micro biome for years and all this stuff related to it's effects on the brain and overall health. We joke, but I legit don't think we're too far from pro and pre biotic enemas becoming a regular treatment
For the record, the study they're likely citing was the one that tested less than 15 kids, 3 or more of which did NOT have autism, and the then-doctor permanently crippled one of them in the process of testing for the digestive-neural autism link
(The entire study exists because he wanted to discredit a vaccine to sell his own)
Ah, following in Wakefield's steps. Good to see the grifters and charlatans don't change, but it is sad that people keep falling for it.
They're likely citing Wakefield, he's been having a resurgence in US media
Oh FFS.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10017995/
There have been 5 studies that all seem to show a positive link.
But way way more reseach is needed.
Gut disorders are correlated with autism
Autism is not correlated with gut disorder
That is both the research and the current scientific consensus
Also remember that correlation isn't causation. Trust me, every autistic person in the West has heard all about how we just need to adjust our gut biome and suddenly we won't be autistic, or we just need to go vegan, or any of a thousand other wonder cures. These cures have been touted since the 1900s, and the people they "work" on are generally agreed to just have learnt to mask better because almost every "treatment", no matter how benign, is horrible to deal with.
The research shows a decrease in symptoms after the procedure and nothing more or less.
It doesn't say anything about gut disorder or why they could be linked.
Positive link? Does that mean more autism symptoms?
What does a reduction in Autism “symptoms” even mean - We uninstall Arch?
No, you just stop telling everyone else about it.
"I un-installed Arch, btw"
Impressive and commendable, but irrelevant.
Maybe more susceptibility to advertisement?
Uninstall Gentoo, duh
Water no longer feels as splish-splashy
Can confirm. Water now feels ouch-bangey, with an occasional splat-sticky mixed in.
It could fix certain GI issues, which either autistic people are more sensitive to or are unable to communicate.
Once again, the science piles up behind my "we're just LLMs running on the mecha suit controlled by bacteria" theory
Well neural networks (the construct LLMs use) is modelled on how neurons process information. Just in incredibly simplified form.
And I'm pretty sure most scientists agree that humans are actually a colony of many different species given how we rely on bacteria to live.
Oh, the metaphor goes further. We're not the pilot of the suit, we're not the hardware, we're not the OS of the suit, we're the AI assistant
We speak for it with the other AIs, we get called up to handle things we don't have learned behaviors for, we analyze and provide feedback - we give advice and it feels like we're making decisions, but we're not
We are literally 10 times more bacteria than human cells in the human body.
"We." Are you referring to people, or is that the bacteria self-identifying as plural?
we're going on an adventure!
I appreciate your reference. :-)
And it sounds so wholesome. If you don't know the origin
I think OOP might be full of shit
I agree, functional programming is the future
Too bad I only do nonfunctional programming.
This guy Fortrans
But whose shit? These are the questions we need to be asking.
Illishit substances
FYI fecal transplants are a thing and they address unhealthy microbiomes in the body. Someone else's shit could literally save your life from a c diff infection.
Trouble is that we don't know enough about it. Especially how to find a good donor.
Sorry I'm late for work, boss. I made a spontaneous intrabraccael fecal donation on the way to work.
So we’re just abandoning the time tested “if it’s brown, send it down” protocol?
I mean… if we can’t trust that brown poop is good poop anymore, which way is up?
Nah, that remains, we're just putting the autistic people downstream.
This cannot stand. The best poop must go to help the most worthy.
For people with IBD or IBS, they're practically the holy grail, if the initial reports are to be believed.
Research like this gives me hope for people like my severely autistic son who has been missing development milestone after development milestone so a fear of mine is that he might eventually have to live in a group home once he's strong enough to overpower us. If a treatment like this can manage symptoms enough to allow him to live independently that would be literally life changing
It's for gut issues like crohns not anything to do with emotional regulation or communication.
Group homes are as good as their staff, interview everyone there. Visit him often. Living independently is not always for the best.
Ehhh I should've figured info from a source like this would be woefully misrepresented
This shit is stupid
This shit is retarded
I've been reading research on the gut micro biome for years and all this stuff related to it's effects on the brain and overall health. We joke, but I legit don't think we're too far from pro and pre biotic enemas becoming a regular treatment
grab a celebrity and a venture capitalist, and spin it up!
Ooh, I bet Gwyneth Paltrow would be into it!
I dream of making millions by selling Belle Delphine home fecal transplant kits.
too easy.
))<>((
Forever....
Hmmm, I thought it was a poop knife.
I thought it was a cum sock.
Maybe it’s Maybelline
*do not try this at home
pooptism
I am hella indifferent to the idea of a poop sock.
and made you eat it, as a cure