For those unaware, massive herds of buffalo in the US were slaughtered in an attempt to keep Native Americans, many of whom were dependent on hunting the herds as they migrated, in one place where they could be watched and controlled. A very ugly piece of our history.
You’re going to a shitty school if they don’t cover this. We went over a part of it at least once a year. It’s it’s a you problem if you don’t know this by the time your done.
a majority of states wouldn't teach this if they could and there in lies the problem; if 2/3rds of all schools are shitty, then that is what's normal and you're going to have to live, work, vote & die along side people with that education.
I remember my 4th grade teacher having us read one page about the Daughters of the Confederacy, the teacher briefly discussing the struggles of former slave-owners, and skipping the rest of the chapter on slavery due to "not having enough time." IIRC, even the textbook painted the Daughters of the Confederacy in a positive, or at least neutral light.
I remember my 7th grade health teacher showing us a Christian anti-masturbation video for our sex-ed requirement. This was a rural public school in a northern state. Only other option was a private Catholic school, but my family wasn't Catholic, and my family wouldn't have been able to afford to send me there if they wanted to.
I don't think I even knew about the trail of tears until the middle of high school; and definitely didn't learn about the motivation for hunting Buffalo to extinction.
Definitely not a lie. Could possibly be a case of "parental incompetence," as my parents and grandparents were educated in, what I guess, similarly biased schools (or most likely, even more biased). I don't have a good relationship with my parents, and, perhaps surprisingly, my grandparents are more left-leaning than my parents. I grew up in rural NW Ohio, to be more specific; which used to be a swing state. Most of my peers were racist AF, and most of my past friends are now dead from drug overdoses. I'm, in no means, well traveled, but I'm guessing my life experiences aren't some rare anomaly.
I get into a bit of an internet slap-fight about this topic here: https://slrpnk.net/post/13729485/11259214
My sleep-deprived brain was hysterically lost, and I thought I was replying to different post. Despite this, I think it fits well here.
yeah, the intentional extirpation of a species is pretty heinous, but i mean... look at what the Dutch were doing that century. or what was happening at plantations and mines around the world. hell, compared to what's happening at mines and plantations and factories around the world today.
makes you realize it's not really worth comparing evils beyond a certain point. it'll only serve to make you feel bad and maybe hurt someone's feelings for no reason.
this image always terrifies me. humans are fully capable and willing to do this kind of thing, particularly before the age of modern photography and video.
I will say that there were indigenous American tribes that weren't much better in terms of how they treated bison. Some hunted them pretty sustainably, but the Blackfoot believed that if you didn't kill the whole herd, the rest of them would learn to be wary of humans. So they drove the whole herd off a cliff. They only harvested a small portion of that herd when they were done, which is why there are just massive piles of bones at the bases of those cliffs.
For those unaware, massive herds of buffalo in the US were slaughtered in an attempt to keep Native Americans, many of whom were dependent on hunting the herds as they migrated, in one place where they could be watched and controlled. A very ugly piece of our history.
America's genocide
Hey now, we have more than one
and we're doing it again in the middle east right now
But... This could make some white children uncomfortable! So we probably shouldn't mention it in the history books.
You’re going to a shitty school if they don’t cover this. We went over a part of it at least once a year. It’s it’s a you problem if you don’t know this by the time your done.
You’re not from Florida, Louisiana, or Texas then.
Everyone’s books are based on Texas standards.
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/06/21/how-texas-inflicts-bad-textbooks-on-us/
If you don’t know this I can see why you didn’t know the original question either.
a majority of states wouldn't teach this if they could and there in lies the problem; if 2/3rds of all schools are shitty, then that is what's normal and you're going to have to live, work, vote & die along side people with that education.
It’s not the schools. It’s the occasionally the teachers and mostly the students.
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/06/21/how-texas-inflicts-bad-textbooks-on-us/
I don't remember voting on the curriculum last time I was in school.
I can now though, so thank you for telling me about this. It definitely should have been included.
You have a massive amount to catch up on before even considering voting for school books
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/06/21/how-texas-inflicts-bad-textbooks-on-us/
Start there.
I remember my 4th grade teacher having us read one page about the Daughters of the Confederacy, the teacher briefly discussing the struggles of former slave-owners, and skipping the rest of the chapter on slavery due to "not having enough time." IIRC, even the textbook painted the Daughters of the Confederacy in a positive, or at least neutral light.
I remember my 7th grade health teacher showing us a Christian anti-masturbation video for our sex-ed requirement. This was a rural public school in a northern state. Only other option was a private Catholic school, but my family wasn't Catholic, and my family wouldn't have been able to afford to send me there if they wanted to.
I don't think I even knew about the trail of tears until the middle of high school; and definitely didn't learn about the motivation for hunting Buffalo to extinction.
This is either a lie or incompetence on the parents for not suing. As has been done repeatedly.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna158639
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/06/21/louisianas-new-ten-commandments-law-is-latest-example-of-states-pushing-to-allow-religion-in-public-schools/
There are many more.
Definitely not a lie. Could possibly be a case of "parental incompetence," as my parents and grandparents were educated in, what I guess, similarly biased schools (or most likely, even more biased). I don't have a good relationship with my parents, and, perhaps surprisingly, my grandparents are more left-leaning than my parents. I grew up in rural NW Ohio, to be more specific; which used to be a swing state. Most of my peers were racist AF, and most of my past friends are now dead from drug overdoses. I'm, in no means, well traveled, but I'm guessing my life experiences aren't some rare anomaly.
I get into a bit of an internet slap-fight about this topic here: https://slrpnk.net/post/13729485/11259214 My sleep-deprived brain was hysterically lost, and I thought I was replying to different post. Despite this, I think it fits well here.
One of many parts of my country's history that makes me sad.
A monument of national shame
Imagine being proud of wholesale slaughter, so much so that you pose with the mountain of skulls.
Have you met any trump supporters? This is them, where bison skulls are metaphors for good works.
Or metaphors for liberals.
To be fair, that is an impressive mountain of skulls.
Humans really are stupid fuck ups.
Such a shame.
The Great American Buffalo is a must watch.
The term "historyporn" implies I would take some kind of enjoyment from the photo. Not this one.
I would say crime of the century right here, but then you also have to consider the activities of the British Empire during this era.
yeah, the intentional extirpation of a species is pretty heinous, but i mean... look at what the Dutch were doing that century. or what was happening at plantations and mines around the world. hell, compared to what's happening at mines and plantations and factories around the world today.
makes you realize it's not really worth comparing evils beyond a certain point. it'll only serve to make you feel bad and maybe hurt someone's feelings for no reason.
This mountain of skulls is a sign of a horrible crime, committed to facilitate an even more horrible crime.
And yet it wasn't even in the top 10 of worst things humans did that century
this image always terrifies me. humans are fully capable and willing to do this kind of thing, particularly before the age of modern photography and video.
I will say that there were indigenous American tribes that weren't much better in terms of how they treated bison. Some hunted them pretty sustainably, but the Blackfoot believed that if you didn't kill the whole herd, the rest of them would learn to be wary of humans. So they drove the whole herd off a cliff. They only harvested a small portion of that herd when they were done, which is why there are just massive piles of bones at the bases of those cliffs.
Oh man, then don't look up what happened to the people that used to hunt these things.
History aside, dude on the bottom is one loose jaw bone away from being buried alive in Buffalo skulls
Again a reason why the name of this community is a bit weird.
Yes it's an impressive photo with historical significance.
However calling it 'porn' is a fucking misnomer.
I wish I could change the community name. I took over when it was abandoned, and this took the name from the Reddit sub.
Agree, But there is not any active History Images community.
Yeah it was no criticism to the post, I have the same thing this with Holocaust related images too.
Not sure how it should be called,'historically significant images' doesn't have that ring.
However I want to keep the discussion going about it.
Why do they interlock so nice?
Very high
resolutiondefinition. Must have been a rather big camera and long exposure.