Iirc, the studio(s) likely wouldn't be able to do much better for Voyager as they didn't record Voyager onto film like the others. They cheaped out and recorded direct to VHS
The federation is like living at your parent’s house. Things are free under their roof, but if you want to drink with Quark, you’re going to have to trade your star fleet allowance for latinum.
I like to imagine they've all got unlimited credit lines but they play along with the Ferengi to respect their culture. Their system might fall apart if they are forced to acknowledge it only works with artificial scarcity.
Gold has some uses. Diamonds have a few industrial applications as well. Some other gems too in optics I think, but natural ones would probably be useless there.
Both gold and a lot of gemstones have a great many uses in industry and electronics, garnet for example is used in water jet cutting and if you have a smart watch there is a good chance its touch screen is made of sapphire
And then there is the sheer amount of gold we use in plating soooo many of our printed circuit boards and connectors
With the exception of gold, all of your above examples are usually either abundant and cheap (garnet), or are cheaper and better when made in a lab. For example: Sapphire is just aluminum oxide -- no one is cutting phone screens from mined gems. And lab made diamonds are pennies on the dollar.
Have it included with Walmart+ and so far everything I've watched has had one 30 second ad at the beginning and I can return anytime without having to watch anymore.
Ultimately I plan on subscribing to the Mark Twain VR OnlyFans on my Meta headset. It'll be $20/mo for the ad supported tier. The ads will be directly loaded into my neural link so I can't look away.
That sounds cute until some rich asshole sets up his own anti-matter reactor to run their own holodecks with content and filters removed. I'm thinking he sets it up on a remote asteroid and invites his other rich asshole friends. Except he secretly records them and uses it to set up a blackmail network.
He'd probably have to have some weird alien name like, Kah-Epstein.
I always thought the "you wouldn't download a car" ads were based on an assumption that star trek replicator technology would be evil (with the public argument that it would put people out of jobs and the real reason being it would be harder to base a wealth-based hierarchy and system of middlemen on).
Ah, yeah, it might have been the implication that they were equivalent that got me thinking that rather than them using "download" instead of "steal".
They also lost me with the sappy ads about the crews that don't make millions from the movies, as if the studios would even be able to produce movies without paying crews (and weren't already doing everything they could to reduce that expense).
Especially when I knew that it was the studios' fault theatres had to gouge people on snacks because those greedy fucks wanted all of the ticket sales money, despite theatres requiring money to run and maintain.
And don't get me started on Hollywood accounting and how it was used to claim Return of the Jedi made 0 profit to fuck over the actor behind one of the most iconic roles in film (who wanted royalties instead of a set pay but made the mistake of believing they were negotiating with him in good faith and weren't just fucking vultures).
Replicators don't replaces services, just goods. Most people aren't willing to render services for free.
The replicators also use enormous amounts of energy. They're basically nukes in reverse. They "solve" this problem with anti-matter but the anti-matter reaction seems to require trilithium. And as we know from several episodes, trilithium is definitely not an unlimited resources.
The economy might not involve anyone hand-making widgets but there would be a lot of economics around acquiring, processing and distributing trilithium.
I know where you’re going with this and it is 100% what our internet famous generations would do today. In the era of “will it smash”, we test “will it crash”, all for views. The key thing about this movie though, it was after war and we humans were tired of fighting for scraps. So one would hope we wouldn’t need to see if our replicator will make 100 burritos because “why do you need them?”.
The economic model would have to be based on energy supply.
But assuming the replicators were perfect to the atomic level; making the parts for power generation would be easy. But the fuel would still have to be found / collected / mined.
Assuming that fusion is the most common type of energy generation; hydrogen fusion would probably be the dominant form of energy generation. Hydrogen collection would be a huge industry, but it also could be fully automated.
While the economic model may not be noticed by the majority; it would still be there.
Need? None, really. It's like when you get to the North Pole, the entire concept of "north" breaks down. It would be the same with post-scarcity. Or should be, except...
Have? Completely up to the whims of whoever controls the technology. Which... takes a look at the planet will be whoever is left standing once the nut jobs wipe out everyone that they hate. "Computer, ICBM, nuclear."
I'm pretty sure by the end, even Roddenberry had come to accept that humans will never be so selfless as a species and the Starfleet he dreamt of could never exist. That's why his later stuff was more bleak. There's just absolutely no way that the money free world they describe is good for everyone
I believe there is a way. Nanotechnology helped along by artificial intelligence could conceivably bring material abundance to everyone. This would be a world dramatically reshaped. Humanity might not even qualify as the same species anymore.
Some people actually think that such a future is an inevitability; that it can't be stopped. Short of everybody dying in a fire of course.
There has never been a case where governments are able to hide technology from the people for more than a decade at a time in modern history. It might start out expensive, innovations usually do, but over time the expense drops, someone makes a quick buck selling to the masses, and all of a sudden money is meaningless.
Worst case scenario you may have to use your second amendment rights to acquire the technology for the masses, which is what it was designed for.
I'm nostalgic for Bonzi Buddy. That's not something I thought I would say. He was a creepy lying spying bastard, but at least he was kind of useful. The modern Internet and App ecosystem isn't as cute.
Ah yes, because in capitalism, Captains actually own their own ships and you don't need to pay anyone to actually build it! Just use slaves enthusiastic volunteers!
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Picked up the Bluray series off eBay. Physical media seems like the way to go, to really own anything
Same. Bummed that we'll probably never get remasters of DS9 and Voyager.
There is a nice DS9 upscaling project that is very good (not as good as a proper remaster, but still impressive).
https://ds9redefined.wordpress.com/videos/
They only provide download instructions (sftp) via discord, unfortunately. (https://discord.gg/qTgXcG9T). It's very large (300+ GB for the series).
They are working on Voyager now.
Iirc, the studio(s) likely wouldn't be able to do much better for Voyager as they didn't record Voyager onto film like the others. They cheaped out and recorded direct to VHS
No. Videotape, sure, but not VHS.
That or sailing the digital sea, which ig you could consider a bunch of DRM-free files on a drive you own to still be "physical media"
Do you really think the automation governments use don't understand euphemism. Just say piracy.
Counterpoint: Who cares, sailing the digital sea sounds cooler.
Do you really think people say things like sailing the digital sea to avoid persecution? Just say whatever sounds cool to you
... Ripped to a media server. It'll be a cold day in hell before I can be arsed to stand up and put media into a machine anymore.
Just gotta shield my media server from EMPs and we're golden.
The federation is like living at your parent’s house. Things are free under their roof, but if you want to drink with Quark, you’re going to have to trade your star fleet allowance for latinum.
I like to imagine they've all got unlimited credit lines but they play along with the Ferengi to respect their culture. Their system might fall apart if they are forced to acknowledge it only works with artificial scarcity.
Definitely no social commentary there btw.
Ew no. I might get some kind of disease.
what am i a car?
Finally, someone else who knows of this very obscure community!
The artworks are wild.
Now you're talkin' my language! 😎
okay 🤗
You mean those wealth hoarding lizards that fire people and don't pay taxes?
Isn't that basically the same thing?
Gold has some uses. Diamonds have a few industrial applications as well. Some other gems too in optics I think, but natural ones would probably be useless there.
Both gold and a lot of gemstones have a great many uses in industry and electronics, garnet for example is used in water jet cutting and if you have a smart watch there is a good chance its touch screen is made of sapphire
And then there is the sheer amount of gold we use in plating soooo many of our printed circuit boards and connectors
With the exception of gold, all of your above examples are usually either abundant and cheap (garnet), or are cheaper and better when made in a lab. For example: Sapphire is just aluminum oxide -- no one is cutting phone screens from mined gems. And lab made diamonds are pennies on the dollar.
Does Paramount have ads?
#kodi_life
Not as invasive as others for now, but yeah.
Have it included with Walmart+ and so far everything I've watched has had one 30 second ad at the beginning and I can return anytime without having to watch anymore.
Walmart+ ?? Is that a joke?
We found the subscriber.
What a pleb. A true gentleman subscribes through Waitrose Platinum.
That's my current setup but through the Kodi addon so I haven't seen one yet
How’s your Burger King?
The real problem is Paramount+ won't accept any of my worthless gold.
Press it with latinum, hyu-mon.
You got this upside-down, friend.
The Latinum is pressed with Gold. 🧑🏫
They’re pressed with one another, it says it’s suspended in the structure of the gold.
I’m seeing it like a ruby set in silver, the silver makes it jewelry/useful but the ruby gives it value.
Fair. 🙂
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Stremio + torrentio + real-debrid friends.
Unfortunately only season one of Voyager is available. I didn't realize that until I finished the first season.
?
What source are you using? I'm using real-debrid. Although it has been a few months since I checked.
Dunno what kind of economic model we'd need if we had star trek -level replication technology.
We could just explore, try to learn new interesting things, and have campy holodeck adventures with Mark Twain.
I don't think the current rich people would approve. But screw'em if we have replicators
The economy would crash and millions of people would starve. I wish I were kidding. We humans are really fucking dumb.
Ultimately I plan on subscribing to the Mark Twain VR OnlyFans on my Meta headset. It'll be $20/mo for the ad supported tier. The ads will be directly loaded into my neural link so I can't look away.
That sounds cute until some rich asshole sets up his own anti-matter reactor to run their own holodecks with content and filters removed. I'm thinking he sets it up on a remote asteroid and invites his other rich asshole friends. Except he secretly records them and uses it to set up a blackmail network.
He'd probably have to have some weird alien name like, Kah-Epstein.
I always thought the "you wouldn't download a car" ads were based on an assumption that star trek replicator technology would be evil (with the public argument that it would put people out of jobs and the real reason being it would be harder to base a wealth-based hierarchy and system of middlemen on).
The original ad was "you wouldn't steal a car," literally claiming that downloading a movie is morally equivalent to carjacking.
From the people who brought us private sex islands, in both underage and cult varieties. Fucking hate Hollywood dictating morality to everyone else.
Ah, yeah, it might have been the implication that they were equivalent that got me thinking that rather than them using "download" instead of "steal".
They also lost me with the sappy ads about the crews that don't make millions from the movies, as if the studios would even be able to produce movies without paying crews (and weren't already doing everything they could to reduce that expense).
Especially when I knew that it was the studios' fault theatres had to gouge people on snacks because those greedy fucks wanted all of the ticket sales money, despite theatres requiring money to run and maintain.
And don't get me started on Hollywood accounting and how it was used to claim Return of the Jedi made 0 profit to fuck over the actor behind one of the most iconic roles in film (who wanted royalties instead of a set pay but made the mistake of believing they were negotiating with him in good faith and weren't just fucking vultures).
We'd probably need a very similar model.
Replicators don't replaces services, just goods. Most people aren't willing to render services for free.
The replicators also use enormous amounts of energy. They're basically nukes in reverse. They "solve" this problem with anti-matter but the anti-matter reaction seems to require trilithium. And as we know from several episodes, trilithium is definitely not an unlimited resources.
The economy might not involve anyone hand-making widgets but there would be a lot of economics around acquiring, processing and distributing trilithium.
Well shoot. I hadn't even included the problem that latinum can't be replicated.
At this rate, replicators will be in a subscription model.
Not if I invent them first. FREE SHIT FOR EVERYONE! I like chaos.
I'm wondering what the limiting factor would be in my day to day lives.
I want a burrito, easy, I want 10 burritos, still easy. 100? A bit concerning, but sure? Five, Hundred, burritos? Getting alarming
I tell the replicator to manufacture a billion burritos and society as we know it grinds to a halt.
I know where you’re going with this and it is 100% what our internet famous generations would do today. In the era of “will it smash”, we test “will it crash”, all for views. The key thing about this movie though, it was after war and we humans were tired of fighting for scraps. So one would hope we wouldn’t need to see if our replicator will make 100 burritos because “why do you need them?”.
The economic model would have to be based on energy supply.
But assuming the replicators were perfect to the atomic level; making the parts for power generation would be easy. But the fuel would still have to be found / collected / mined.
Assuming that fusion is the most common type of energy generation; hydrogen fusion would probably be the dominant form of energy generation. Hydrogen collection would be a huge industry, but it also could be fully automated.
While the economic model may not be noticed by the majority; it would still be there.
Need? None, really. It's like when you get to the North Pole, the entire concept of "north" breaks down. It would be the same with post-scarcity. Or should be, except...
Have? Completely up to the whims of whoever controls the technology. Which... takes a look at the planet will be whoever is left standing once the nut jobs wipe out everyone that they hate. "Computer, ICBM, nuclear."
I'm pretty sure by the end, even Roddenberry had come to accept that humans will never be so selfless as a species and the Starfleet he dreamt of could never exist. That's why his later stuff was more bleak. There's just absolutely no way that the money free world they describe is good for everyone
I believe there is a way. Nanotechnology helped along by artificial intelligence could conceivably bring material abundance to everyone. This would be a world dramatically reshaped. Humanity might not even qualify as the same species anymore.
Some people actually think that such a future is an inevitability; that it can't be stopped. Short of everybody dying in a fire of course.
I think the human race dying before we reach those dreams is far more likely
No sense worrying about it then. I know I don't.
My cynical perspective is that people will monetise that nanotechnology before long
What makes you think the powers that be would make this accessible to the poor?
There has never been a case where governments are able to hide technology from the people for more than a decade at a time in modern history. It might start out expensive, innovations usually do, but over time the expense drops, someone makes a quick buck selling to the masses, and all of a sudden money is meaningless.
Worst case scenario you may have to use your second amendment rights to acquire the technology for the masses, which is what it was designed for.
Hey, fuck this meme and the starship it rode in on.
No bourgeois propaganda on swatchseries.is (once you've developed to reflex to close the adds directly)
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Fuck that. Just steal it, amiright fellow pirates? Yo-ho, yo-ho, I deserve everything for free!
"ST:NG" makes me twitch.
Look at this, System of a Down - Legend of Zelda!
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Having flash backs to half a screen of toolbars and a purple monkey on my parent's computer in the late 90s.
Ditto.
I'm nostalgic for Bonzi Buddy. That's not something I thought I would say. He was a creepy lying spying bastard, but at least he was kind of useful. The modern Internet and App ecosystem isn't as cute.
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Ah yes, because in capitalism, Captains actually own their own ships and you don't need to pay anyone to actually build it! Just use
slavesenthusiastic volunteers!Nobody said any of that lol