Spyke
lemmy.world

Factory reset doesn't delete persistent app data enabled by app developer [paraphrased]

What about Erase All Content and Settings? You seriously can't fully erase a second-hand phone you bought?! That's insane

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cmnyboreply
discuss.tchncs.de

What's even worse is that Apple is not fully erasing the phones that they refurbish.

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They are fully erasing it. But it's still the same iPhone. With a device ID that is banned.

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Apple urges developers to not use DeviceCheck for anything beyond basic device verification, and if you're a developer that's also misusing it, then you should definitely cease that—there are probably more reliable ways to check whether it's the same user trying to access an account from a device or not.

I don’t think I care about not being able to erase the device ID. It seems useful to have this, actually, for back-tracing if need be.

Snapchat probs shouldn’t use the DeviceCheck services improperly. But hey, that’s just like my opinion, man.

More, not very interesting, info on DeviceCheck services here: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/devicecheck

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I can’t see what was posted above anymore, but the DeviceCheck API lets app developers store 2 binary digits (that means 4 different states: 00, 01, 10 or 11) per device on Apple’s servers. So, no, these don’t get erased during a Factory Reset as they’re stored on Apple’s servers. But your phone will.

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Kairosreply
lemmy.today

APPLE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU AND DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY

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lemmy.world

Apple urges developers to not use DeviceCheck for anything beyond basic device verification, and if you're a developer that's also misusing it, then you should definitely cease that—there are probably more reliable ways to check whether it's the same user trying to access an account from a device or not.

Sounds reasonable…

But then, why would you use it?

For example, you might use this data to identify devices that have already taken advantage of a promotional offer that you provide, or to flag a device that you’ve determined to be fraudulent.

Oh, ok. Wait, what? But…

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Luckily Apple strictly controls the App Store and will never allow apps to abuse this, right? Right?

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dev_nullreply
lemmy.ml

So getting my iPhone repaired can ban me from a promo that I haven't used yet? How does that make sense.

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Good. Snapchat is and always has been such a garbage and useless app.

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Echo Dotreply
feddit.uk

I'd rather buy an iPhone instead of a shitty clone that won't receive updates after 3 years.

You need to look more carefully and androids because there's plenty that are not clones. Very few all clones so you appear to be selecting for your own bias

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cm0002reply
lemmy.world

When did Apple release their Foldy phone? An Android manufacturer (spacing on the name) is already getting ready to release a tri-fold phone

In any case, iPhone and Android copy each other all the time. Sometimes it's Android copying iPhone and sometimes the opposite, it's just the way it goes in the smartphone industry

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Corhenreply
lemmy.world

or 10x physical zoom, punchthrough cameras, USBC...

In a lot of ways, iphone just copies android. They are just better at marketing themselves

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mrvictory1reply
lemmy.world

USB C was mandated by EU. 10x zoom is simply iPhones trailing nehind Android phones.

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im saying that the android broke ground and got there first on all of these, while the iphone likes to pretend its cutting edge.

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popreply
lemmy.ml

It never ceases to amaze me how iPhone users think a bump in a version years down the road, keeps them secure while the browser in iOS needs whole god damn system update to upgrade.

You wait for that patch for a Safari vulnerability for whenever Apple feels like it but Android devs can push patch and deploy within days or hours. And also sideload it, if a really important fix would take a long time through regular channels. And also there's more than 1 browser engine on Android, so all users aren't vulnerable to the same exploit at the same time.

But hey, keep on swallowing that Apple marketing wholesale though.

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Google also split Security Updates from main OS updates so that they can control and push them independently of the manufacturer. So you might miss out on fancy features from Android XX or whatever, but at least vulnerabilities will continue to be patched

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lemmy.world

Gosh that's sucks people on iPhone using Snapchat.

Says a guy on an android that doesn't even know what Snapchat does.

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The equivalent API on Android gets a new id when the phone is resetted.

Weird that Apple doesn't do that on refurbished phones

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Why would apple not wipe the device completely on repair or when activated?

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lemmy.zip

Sounds more like Apple makes a MAC like string that identifies an iPhone and Snap is creating a database of IDs against Apples wishes.

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