I'd be happy with small print that says you have to buy two parking tickets. Nice and small at the bottom so they don't realise and just get slapped with a £90 fine whenever they park like it.
I went to work one day at Disneyland. And a truck took 4 parking spots, right at the front. The lot was packed, people were parking at the end of the rows not even in spots. I drive a very small car. My hood fit under their bumper so I parked in front of them in just one of the spots they took.
I came back to a nasty note on how they paid for 2 spots (but took 4) and how much of an asshole I was for parking in the only spot I could.
in parking lots, the parking is free, unless you're in a parking garage or on a street meter, and even sometimes parking garages don't charge admission. Though it's less common.
These lots are almost always at a store, where people buy things, and the companies make money.
That's not a little white car. That's just a white car. Fuck cars, but fuck these monstrosities that wouldn't be street legal in any reasonable country especially.
Yup, that used to be a mid size car back in the day. This is actually a pretty good illustration of how out of control the size of our cars are getting
Nobody likes these fucks in the giant trucks. I run a condo and those trucks stick out about 2 feet into the driveway and fit tightly on the wide side. We started banning them and it pissed off a few rednecks, but if you buy a car that literally doesn't fit in your parking spot, that's your problem.
I've got an old F150 farm truck and I still make a point to park in east Jesus nowhere in a parking lot so I'm not in the way. It's common fuckin' decency.
Yeah, I require a large truck for work. I haul a large trailer and work rural. If I didn't need it, I wouldn't blow money on it. I park out of the way on principle, and pretty much don't bother with downtown areas anymore, sadly. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Just a heads up, farmers used to drive small trucks. They are easier to load and unload. How often do you use the bed of your big truck? It must be a pain in the ass. (If you don't use the bed, you don't need a truck. There are other vehicles with the horsepower that don't have a ton of dead space in the rear.)
Horsepower isn't all that matters. Torque and the ability of the frame and transmission to tow matter, too. If your response is "van", check the gas mileage between a van and comparable truck. Vans tend to have worse gas mileage due to a higher frontal cross section. That gives them worse highway mileage.
Just let workers choose what they need. By all means, make fun of the people who use their oversized trucks to go to Starbucks and back.
For sure, all that matters. I was just pointing out that some people like to say an oversized truck is the only thing that can tow, which is not true at all, and comes with many drawbacks. Personally, I'd love for us to get back to small trucks, but you literally can't but them anymore.
ok so i want to pick your brain here. What would be the most effective way to prevent these idiots from buying these large trucks, but still allowing these larger trucks on the market for the few rare instances where people actually need them.
I've had a few thoughts, notably just making smaller trucks alongside these larger trucks, they're going to be a lot cheaper and more efficient so market forces should do quite a bit of work there. Aside from there, i've considered just selling super duties and deleting the normal line, probably just leaving the duallies in all honesty. I've also considered just yeeting the bed and throwing a fifth wheel there as a standard feature, making it impractical for anything other than hauling heavy trailers.
Outside of this, i'm not sure, but i'm also not convinced most people that use these trucks even need them in the first place, even if they're doing work.
may I propose periodically inspecting and auditing if the subject needs the truck and if not they are shot on the spot?
Or, for a serious answer: ban them but not the trucks like those used in Europe (have same or better bed length but look uglier). Make trucks back into work vehicles instead of status symbols. And firebomb GM.
Though IIRC the Biden admin came out with new, better rules to help with this.
Another way to deal with it is to build comprehensive public transportation, relax residential zoning regulations, eliminate parking minimums, build biking/pedestrian infrastructure, etc. Doing so will reduce car dependence and therefore the number of people who unnecessarily choose a huge vehicle.
Yet another way to deal with this, is to tax auto sales based on vehicle size. As of right now, there is little financial pressure to keep cars small, so manufactures play an arms race with each other to make bigger vehicles, because they're safer the occupants, all at the cost of everybody else's safety. Bigger cars also impart more wear and tear on public roads, so between these things they should financially contribute more taxes to compensate.
reducing car dependence is another thing as well, though i think it's probably good we focus on this specific problem more so at the moment, as a lot of that infrastructure is simply going to take time to mature.
a tax on vehicle weight would be a good one though.
a lot of that infrastructure is simply going to take time to mature.
Absolutely. But it will definitely help, and long term solutions are important solutions.
a tax on vehicle weight would be a good one though.
Also absolutely, though a straight weigh based tax may not be a great idea, as EVs are significantly heavier. So without taking that into account, it would largely be a tax on EVs. Given the current climate situation, that's the wrong move.
From what I've seen in practice, it seems like most vehicle weight taxes do take this into account.
Absolutely. But it will definitely help, and long term solutions are important solutions.
yeah obviously. I think it's important to engage in both long term, and short term solutions however.
Also absolutely, though a straight weigh based tax may not be a great idea, as EVs are significantly heavier. So without taking that into account, it would largely be a tax on EVs. Given the current climate situation, that’s the wrong move.
i mean, EV's are just heavier, which means they're going to put more wear on the road. Regardless a smaller EV should still be relatively comparable to a moderately larger ICE vehicle. And we also expect EV batteries to get lighter over time, especially if you include solidstate battery tech.
Although maybe EVs should get a tax credit in this regard, since they're yknow, EVs.
i mean, EV’s are just heavier, which means they’re going to put more wear on the road. Regardless a smaller EV should still be relatively comparable to a moderately larger ICE vehicle. And we also expect EV batteries to get lighter over time, especially if you include solidstate battery tech.
Agreed.
Although maybe EVs should get a tax credit in this regard, since they’re yknow, EVs.
Personally, I'm against tax credits on a conceptual basis. They complicate the tax code. Taxes should be simple, quick, and easy. Tacking on extra tax credits just makes an already horrendous system worse. Either give a citizen a check automatically, directly subsidize individual sales.
Let fuel prices rise to a realistic level. Make them primarily business vehicles. Push for heavy duty hybrids and full electrics. Fines and annual fees for fuel system mods which decrease fuel mileage.
Mind you, I doubt these would go down well. I am not your normal truck guy, at all.
I’ve noticed that one of the largest fleet purchaser of oversized mega-utes are the Mobile EV recovery companies.
They take a Dodge RAM, stick a Diesel Generator on the back and they can drive around, rescuing the EVs that ran out of charge.
Because they are promoting EV use, they actually get carbon credits for this.
Does that rule still work? I was looking for a car last year and used cars were more expensive than new ones, but for new cars the wait period was 6 to 24 months.
Yeah this is a trend in the past two’ish years, due to the component shortages. Basically, auto makers have a bunch of new cars on the lot, which are all undriveable because they couldn’t source the components for the dashboard. They had literal parking lots full of nearly-built cars, just waiting on one or two small chips to come in so they can finish building it.
So as a result, the used car market boomed. Used cars suddenly tripled in price, because nobody could buy new.
Wow, it costs alot of money to be an idiot. You can get a truck that is equally, if not more functional for 10 grand. You could even super splurge and get one for 30k that is even incredibly similar on the non-functional stuff too. There are much better things to spend the 100k remaining than the difference between a 30k truck and a 130k truck.
I grew up on a tobacco farm, shit ton of manual labor, and the extended families all helped each other
A cousin had a jacked up truck (obviously we're all hillbillies).
But he lifted it so much, it couldn't hitch to a trailer, and only one of the wagons. He took a functional truck and made it almost impossible to actually use it for anything.
I've been shitting on all the idiots driving lifted trucks ever since. I have zero idea why so many guys live in cities and work desk jobs but drive a giant truck for their commute. And there is an insane amount of them at my current job.
My point is, even in rural areas this shit is completely useless. The only reason anyone buys them is they're insecure in their own masculinity. They need a big truck to feel like a big boy
The jacked up ones, %100 agreed, but the large trucks designed for hauling are used exactly for that, hauling. I say this as a Toyota guy, I have a 1st gen tundra I use all time out here, but I'm not delusional and think it can do what the f350 we have can.
And while we are at it....those cabs are not more comfortable than our truck cabs, we have trucks just like them here and they're fucking awful for long hauls.
weird how they use semis/lorries usually for large equipment, when here in the usa we haul most of our own equipment. A hilux is not hauling a 12k lb skid steer, or even a small dozer, or 20 1k lb round bales of hay. Most builders haul most of their shit with them. Weird how you don't know what you're talking about.
No builder is buying a 100k truck... you're not even making any sense, stay in your lane on your tiny island and keep thinking how your little world works the same everywhere.
Carolina squats are the single stupidest thing I’ve ever seen someone do to a truck. Trucks already have bad sight lines, and squatting makes it exponentially worse to the point that you can’t even see the traffic ahead of you.
Anyone caught squatting their truck should immediately get impounded and get a suspended license.
My mother-in-law is one of these. She drives a 4WD jeep, which has never willingly been off of the pavement. They were doing some construction outside of her neighborhood, and the turn into her street was filled with gravel for a few months while the concrete was torn up. She would slowly crawl over the gravel section at like half a mile an hour, because she was afraid of breaking something on her jeep. Even I went faster than she did, and I drive a midsize sedan.
My wife and I joked that she could have hopped the curb and driven across the adjacent field, and still made it to the main road faster than if she had creeped across the gravel.
Jeeps are perfectly fine vehicles… Until they’re not. It’s like they have a built-in killswitch from the factory, where every single dashboard warning light is designed to turn on in the same three or four days.
Adjustable height hitches are practical for most tow vehicles to get a safe and level load.
The ADR 62 and Australian Standard 4177 also dictate legal ball heights for towing (basically a 50mm ball has to be no more than 400mm from the road surface).
Even the factory Towbar that was supplied with my Suzuki Jimny mounted the ball at 395mm (which was barely legal).
(Articulated Hitches like pin hitches or block hitches don’t have this restriction. I use a ball for my little garden trailer and a DO35 for my lightweight off-road camper. I have different height drop-hitches for each type of trailer.)
Most rural areas don't have much of an economy, so big, expensive, lifted trucks show that the guy has a job that can at least pay for those things. It's not unlike men in urban areas wearing expensive clothes and accessories like watches. It shows they have money, and to a certain segment of the population that's enough to get them interested.
It's been my observation that the people most interested in talking about or staring at large trucks, is prepubescent boys. Ergo, as far as I'm concerned, the only reason to have a huge unusable pavement princess is to because you want to show kids your "monster truck".
Yes it does but no you cant, this is the Australian market with the Australian dollar. Brand new dual cab diesels like the Ranger or Hilux are $70k plus, Brand new Chinese dual cabs are $40k. Once you start looking at 3.5 ton+ towing the market gets pretty skinny and most of them are 100k plus. We dont have a history of massive pickup trucks like big old F350s and C30s that are cheap enough that you can just have one for when you need to tow.
Utility vehicles that run and drive and arent heaps of absolute shit here are around $5k if they are roadworthy because theres always a new apprentice plumber who needs a work vehicle. If this guy NEEDS to tow big things over long distances and wants to do it in comfort, its not a long list of vehicles. Not arguing that THIS guy isnt almost certainly a wanker, but I know the local market and know it well.
Edit: just out of curiosity I opened up Carsales, a fully loaded F350 here is over $250k, Ram Laramie too. For $30k there were 4 cars in the whole country that could tow 4 ton and they were all 90s landrover defenders, only 1 with reasonable mileage. For $10k you can get a 2013 Ranger with 320,000kms on the odo but it can only tow 3.5. Theres nothing that can tow 4 tons for less than 20k and its a thrashed 90s Landrover with 410,000 kms on the clock.
See many many years ago the Poms found a lovely sunny place thats amazing to live and decided that it sounded like a brilliant place to send their convicts while they stayed home, got wet all the time, died of consumption in T'Pit and got really shit at all the sports they sent us over with.
Also, whats the different between a british airways jet and a british tourist? The jet stops whining when it reaches Sydney.
I know a few people with one or something like it.
Its mostly people who have a legitimate business case for owning one (Landscapers/Builders/Horsey people) and use that as a justification to own one that also suits their weekend pursuits. (Race cars, boating, 4x4, caravanning/camping)
If you can make your work vehicle also your family vehicle and part of your toy collection AND tax deduct the lot... makes sense.
I have a neighbour that is none of those things and owns a black one. He is a big fella, and nice enough bloke, but often has to reverse back up suburban streets because he can’t get past the parked cars.
His wife has a white Tesla 3 and is stereotypical “I have a self-driving car so I don’t need to look up when I am driving”.
I basically treat truck drivers the way I treat cops at this point. Keep a safe distance and treat them like really stupid but dangerous and highly aggressive animals. Not surprising at all that most cops drive trucks.
As a truck owner (i have a farm) i am paranoid a hell about being evenly between the lines. If you can't afford to take care of your pavement princess when it gets dings then maybe you should get something buy something in your budget.
If you take the end spot and then park far away from the curb to be a dick, you probably deserve to get your car banged up. I love end spots. I snuggle right up against that curb.
Even when I’m driving my little mazda3, in love being by the curb or parking a few spots further away to have nobody on either side of me. Having the room and getting the extra 10 seconds of exercise are both good in my eyes.
I work in transport, it's a race every morning to get one of the 12-14 kerb spots so you can hug that kerb for safety, and it guarantees one side won't get a door opened into it.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who does this. I've had the great pleasure of doing this to the driver door of two giant asshole truck drivers in the last week. #justcompactcarthings
Update for anyone reading this later, the first truck definitely had to climb through the passenger seat, but unfortunately I had to leave before the second one did. It was overnight too! :(
"You think this is bad, this–this chicanery? He's done worse. That car park! Are you telling me that a man just happens to park a car in that small spot? No, he orchestrated it! He exited through the sunroof!"
It’s a shame they’re not flipped so white car could park 1 cm from the truck driver door. See how you like climbing into your pavement princess from the bed pal
But, but, but... They can just climb in from the passenger side and comfortably scoot over, right? I mean that thing is huge, you might even be able to just walk over.
Kiwi who does the same thing to muppets who picked a car they couldn’t handle… most of them seem to be the big American style utes like Rangers although there is the occasional Range Rover…
As someone who had a car and wanted to avoid door dings: you have to do this at the far back of the parking lot when the majority are empty. If the parking lot is mostly full, you have to park somewhere else
another massive beef of mine, though ironically, i think older cars were much better along this line, since you could probably just open the door all the way in a parking lot and it wouldn't even be close to touching the other cars.
Doors are fucking annoying bro. Why do they gotta be so fucking big. I have to shimmy my way out through the door while holding it in between notches because it won't fucking sit still outside of them.
Parking spaces (minimum) setout sizes are governed by an Australian Standard, which is enforced by planning and building permit compliance.
There is usually a requirement to provide a certain minimum number of spaces depending on the building usage, which is set out in the local government planning scheme. Most of the time, the more parking you have, the less area is available for the actual building and other uses.
The upshot is that parking is nearly always designed to the minimum standard, which these days is far too small for the large trucks that the small egos like to drive.
similar here in america, idk about the size for them, but there is a minimum number of required spaces to hold based on land use regulations. Which is really cool.
I believe last time I saw this come up it was a parking lot used by mine workers. Like they park here before being shuttled out to the mine or something?
You might want that, and it would be great, but have you stopped for one second to THINK OF THE SHAREHOLDERS???!?!?? Spending money to make YOU happy? Pffffft, over their dead bodies.
That wouldn't make the coal companies happy and they pay senators to make sure they stay happy. Or, they bail out a president after he bankrupts a casino during the casino boom and then gets appointed to secretary of commerce.
Double parking should be an automatic tow even if half the lot is empty.
I'd be happy with small print that says you have to buy two parking tickets. Nice and small at the bottom so they don't realise and just get slapped with a £90 fine whenever they park like it.
Being in Aus, a car park like this would most likely be free.
If I couldn't find parking I would 100% do what the white car did (and have done before)
I went to work one day at Disneyland. And a truck took 4 parking spots, right at the front. The lot was packed, people were parking at the end of the rows not even in spots. I drive a very small car. My hood fit under their bumper so I parked in front of them in just one of the spots they took.
I came back to a nasty note on how they paid for 2 spots (but took 4) and how much of an asshole I was for parking in the only spot I could.
How about free the with small print that if you take up two spaces it's 90 dollar bucks an hour, payable by calling a premium rate number?
in parking lots, the parking is free, unless you're in a parking garage or on a street meter, and even sometimes parking garages don't charge admission. Though it's less common.
These lots are almost always at a store, where people buy things, and the companies make money.
100%
That's not a little white car. That's just a white car. Fuck cars, but fuck these monstrosities that wouldn't be street legal in any reasonable country especially.
Yup, that used to be a mid size car back in the day. This is actually a pretty good illustration of how out of control the size of our cars are getting
Fuck cars but I think it's a Camry, which is actually a mid-size car.
Mid. Median. It's a car. It's not a small car, it's not a big car.
This model was advertised as a “Wide-Body Camry” because they were so much more spacious.
Nobody likes these fucks in the giant trucks. I run a condo and those trucks stick out about 2 feet into the driveway and fit tightly on the wide side. We started banning them and it pissed off a few rednecks, but if you buy a car that literally doesn't fit in your parking spot, that's your problem.
I've got an old F150 farm truck and I still make a point to park in east Jesus nowhere in a parking lot so I'm not in the way. It's common fuckin' decency.
Thank you for your courteous parking habits.
same but then it never fails when you come back and it's mysteriously surrounded by beater cars.
Like attracts like, dude.
I'm considering putting Nerf bars on, only to hide the rust. But the flip side... i'm not sure I have anything to mount them to besides the rust...
First time I've heard that. I love it. :D
The old F150s actually got in parking spots. They're quite a bit smaller than the current models.
Also, thank you for being courteous.
Dude, seriously... they're not even the same truck anymore.
And don't get me started in how hard it is to find an older (an actually small) Ranger in good condition...
Yeah, I require a large truck for work. I haul a large trailer and work rural. If I didn't need it, I wouldn't blow money on it. I park out of the way on principle, and pretty much don't bother with downtown areas anymore, sadly. Sorry for the inconvenience.
I wouldn't sweat it. Folks don't mind a truck that actually works driven by a courteous driver.
I saw a truck with a sticker on the window that said "my driving scares me too"
Just a heads up, farmers used to drive small trucks. They are easier to load and unload. How often do you use the bed of your big truck? It must be a pain in the ass. (If you don't use the bed, you don't need a truck. There are other vehicles with the horsepower that don't have a ton of dead space in the rear.)
to be fair, depending on the kind of trailers they're hauling a truck might still be the best available option
Horsepower isn't all that matters. Torque and the ability of the frame and transmission to tow matter, too. If your response is "van", check the gas mileage between a van and comparable truck. Vans tend to have worse gas mileage due to a higher frontal cross section. That gives them worse highway mileage.
Just let workers choose what they need. By all means, make fun of the people who use their oversized trucks to go to Starbucks and back.
For sure, all that matters. I was just pointing out that some people like to say an oversized truck is the only thing that can tow, which is not true at all, and comes with many drawbacks. Personally, I'd love for us to get back to small trucks, but you literally can't but them anymore.
Well there's only one country that needs big "trucks" so I guess their farming technique is wildly different and inferior.
I'm a nomad with a camper, and I work on wind farms. It's 100% use.
ok so i want to pick your brain here. What would be the most effective way to prevent these idiots from buying these large trucks, but still allowing these larger trucks on the market for the few rare instances where people actually need them.
I've had a few thoughts, notably just making smaller trucks alongside these larger trucks, they're going to be a lot cheaper and more efficient so market forces should do quite a bit of work there. Aside from there, i've considered just selling super duties and deleting the normal line, probably just leaving the duallies in all honesty. I've also considered just yeeting the bed and throwing a fifth wheel there as a standard feature, making it impractical for anything other than hauling heavy trailers.
Outside of this, i'm not sure, but i'm also not convinced most people that use these trucks even need them in the first place, even if they're doing work.
may I propose periodically inspecting and auditing if the subject needs the truck and if not they are shot on the spot?
Or, for a serious answer: ban them but not the trucks like those used in Europe (have same or better bed length but look uglier). Make trucks back into work vehicles instead of status symbols. And firebomb GM.
either one of these would work, i'm more curious as to what market forces would need to be manipulated to make it a thing.
Maybe we just have to wait for new EV manufacturers to pop up making a small truck. It would actually benefit them as well.
market forces trend towards using people's fragile masculinity to sell them big truck to make money.
The only way we can get these shitstains out of our society is to completely and violently maim said free market with an axe.
i doubt it. Market forces trend towards selling cheap products with high margins, which smaller vehicles would easily fit the bill for.
Then car companies wouldn't be making bigger and bigger cars
Different user, but ending the loopholes on vehicle emissions/MPG would be a good start. Here is a good summary of the situation:
https://www.wired.com/story/the-us-wants-to-close-the-suv-loophole-that-supersized-cars/
Though IIRC the Biden admin came out with new, better rules to help with this.
Another way to deal with it is to build comprehensive public transportation, relax residential zoning regulations, eliminate parking minimums, build biking/pedestrian infrastructure, etc. Doing so will reduce car dependence and therefore the number of people who unnecessarily choose a huge vehicle.
Yet another way to deal with this, is to tax auto sales based on vehicle size. As of right now, there is little financial pressure to keep cars small, so manufactures play an arms race with each other to make bigger vehicles, because they're safer the occupants, all at the cost of everybody else's safety. Bigger cars also impart more wear and tear on public roads, so between these things they should financially contribute more taxes to compensate.
reducing car dependence is another thing as well, though i think it's probably good we focus on this specific problem more so at the moment, as a lot of that infrastructure is simply going to take time to mature.
a tax on vehicle weight would be a good one though.
Absolutely. But it will definitely help, and long term solutions are important solutions.
Also absolutely, though a straight weigh based tax may not be a great idea, as EVs are significantly heavier. So without taking that into account, it would largely be a tax on EVs. Given the current climate situation, that's the wrong move.
From what I've seen in practice, it seems like most vehicle weight taxes do take this into account.
yeah obviously. I think it's important to engage in both long term, and short term solutions however.
i mean, EV's are just heavier, which means they're going to put more wear on the road. Regardless a smaller EV should still be relatively comparable to a moderately larger ICE vehicle. And we also expect EV batteries to get lighter over time, especially if you include solidstate battery tech.
Although maybe EVs should get a tax credit in this regard, since they're yknow, EVs.
Agreed.
Personally, I'm against tax credits on a conceptual basis. They complicate the tax code. Taxes should be simple, quick, and easy. Tacking on extra tax credits just makes an already horrendous system worse. Either give a citizen a check automatically, directly subsidize individual sales.
Require a truck driving license. These aren't cars.
Let fuel prices rise to a realistic level. Make them primarily business vehicles. Push for heavy duty hybrids and full electrics. Fines and annual fees for fuel system mods which decrease fuel mileage.
Mind you, I doubt these would go down well. I am not your normal truck guy, at all.
yeah, another option in the case of gas would apparently be EPA regulations, because they're terrible, apparently.
I’ve noticed that one of the largest fleet purchaser of oversized mega-utes are the Mobile EV recovery companies. They take a Dodge RAM, stick a Diesel Generator on the back and they can drive around, rescuing the EVs that ran out of charge.
Because they are promoting EV use, they actually get carbon credits for this.
thats pretty ironic. Carbon credits are utter bullshit though.
$130K?
Mate, the second he left the dealership, a piece of shit like that devalued to $FuckAll for obvious Australian reasons.
But enjoy the loan payments, being laughed at, and this shit whenever going shopping.
Does that rule still work? I was looking for a car last year and used cars were more expensive than new ones, but for new cars the wait period was 6 to 24 months.
Yeah this is a trend in the past two’ish years, due to the component shortages. Basically, auto makers have a bunch of new cars on the lot, which are all undriveable because they couldn’t source the components for the dashboard. They had literal parking lots full of nearly-built cars, just waiting on one or two small chips to come in so they can finish building it.
So as a result, the used car market boomed. Used cars suddenly tripled in price, because nobody could buy new.
That's $130k in Australian dollars
I believe the accepted term is "dollarydoos".
That's too much for a truck that's never going to see real work. All hat, no cow.
All condom no dick.
Pavement princess
It reminds me of those people who get working dogs and then lock them up in a tiny apartment.
Emotional support truck! Loooooool.
Gender affirming vehicle
130k
Is that after the interest on their 8 year, 0 down loan?
IDK how it is in Queensland, but here in the states, predatory lending and car-poor idiots are a pretty common pairing.
Aud
Wow, it costs alot of money to be an idiot. You can get a truck that is equally, if not more functional for 10 grand. You could even super splurge and get one for 30k that is even incredibly similar on the non-functional stuff too. There are much better things to spend the 100k remaining than the difference between a 30k truck and a 130k truck.
I grew up on a tobacco farm, shit ton of manual labor, and the extended families all helped each other
A cousin had a jacked up truck (obviously we're all hillbillies).
But he lifted it so much, it couldn't hitch to a trailer, and only one of the wagons. He took a functional truck and made it almost impossible to actually use it for anything.
I've been shitting on all the idiots driving lifted trucks ever since. I have zero idea why so many guys live in cities and work desk jobs but drive a giant truck for their commute. And there is an insane amount of them at my current job.
My point is, even in rural areas this shit is completely useless. The only reason anyone buys them is they're insecure in their own masculinity. They need a big truck to feel like a big boy
Those idiots also drove the price up for those of us who need them for what they're meant for...work.
These big yank tanks are nothing but penis extensions, they're not used for work. People out bush all own Hilux or Navaras
The jacked up ones, %100 agreed, but the large trucks designed for hauling are used exactly for that, hauling. I say this as a Toyota guy, I have a 1st gen tundra I use all time out here, but I'm not delusional and think it can do what the f350 we have can.
A cab-over is much more practical 99% of the time. An Isuzu N-Series or Hino 300 has much higher GCM, more comfortable cabin and larger bed.
They just aren’t fitted with V8-powered inadequacy compensators.
Then what? You're other vehicles? An n series or hino 300 is a baby lorri, not a truck.
https://www.hino.com.au/news/hino-launches-high-horsepower-300-series-models/
And while we are at it....those cabs are not more comfortable than our truck cabs, we have trucks just like them here and they're fucking awful for long hauls.
weird how they use semis/lorries usually for large equipment, when here in the usa we haul most of our own equipment. A hilux is not hauling a 12k lb skid steer, or even a small dozer, or 20 1k lb round bales of hay. Most builders haul most of their shit with them. Weird how you don't know what you're talking about.
No builder is buying a 100k truck... you're not even making any sense, stay in your lane on your tiny island and keep thinking how your little world works the same everywhere.
When I am supreme emperor, Carolina squats will be punishable by death.
Carolina squats are the single stupidest thing I’ve ever seen someone do to a truck. Trucks already have bad sight lines, and squatting makes it exponentially worse to the point that you can’t even see the traffic ahead of you.
Anyone caught squatting their truck should immediately get impounded and get a suspended license.
There are companies now that make adjustable height hitches for what I believe is that exact reason
Granted I've never seen a truck with one of those towing anything, but it at least adds a little bit of functionality back!
Mixing ride height to that extent is something no one that knows what they're doing would do...
So they'll probably sell a lot to the idiots buying lifted trucks who just want to be able to say they could tow something but still never will.
Most likely the case, a lot like the lifted 4 wheel drive jeeps that only ever see parking lots. They could go off-road, but likely never will
My mother-in-law is one of these. She drives a 4WD jeep, which has never willingly been off of the pavement. They were doing some construction outside of her neighborhood, and the turn into her street was filled with gravel for a few months while the concrete was torn up. She would slowly crawl over the gravel section at like half a mile an hour, because she was afraid of breaking something on her jeep. Even I went faster than she did, and I drive a midsize sedan.
My wife and I joked that she could have hopped the curb and driven across the adjacent field, and still made it to the main road faster than if she had creeped across the gravel.
Legit fear. Jeeps are dog shit.
Jeeps are perfectly fine vehicles… Until they’re not. It’s like they have a built-in killswitch from the factory, where every single dashboard warning light is designed to turn on in the same three or four days.
Adjustable height hitches are practical for most tow vehicles to get a safe and level load.
The ADR 62 and Australian Standard 4177 also dictate legal ball heights for towing (basically a 50mm ball has to be no more than 400mm from the road surface).
Even the factory Towbar that was supplied with my Suzuki Jimny mounted the ball at 395mm (which was barely legal).
(Articulated Hitches like pin hitches or block hitches don’t have this restriction. I use a ball for my little garden trailer and a DO35 for my lightweight off-road camper. I have different height drop-hitches for each type of trailer.)
I have seen several towing.
One was the owner of a Health Drink company and had a mobile kitchen for events.
Another was an oversized-palatial-mansion-suite-on-wheels (caravan). It was too big to fit in the caravan park.
Just out of curiosity, did women his age find his truck interesting/attractive?
Yeah, but hes also had a legit mullet his whole life and that doesnt do too badly either...
He didn't get it for that tho. But yeah, in general country girls do legitimately like guys in ridiculously huge trucks.
It's a real thing.
The confusing part is people thinking it works in a city.
Most rural areas don't have much of an economy, so big, expensive, lifted trucks show that the guy has a job that can at least pay for those things. It's not unlike men in urban areas wearing expensive clothes and accessories like watches. It shows they have money, and to a certain segment of the population that's enough to get them interested.
It's been my observation that the people most interested in talking about or staring at large trucks, is prepubescent boys. Ergo, as far as I'm concerned, the only reason to have a huge unusable pavement princess is to because you want to show kids your "monster truck".
Yes it does but no you cant, this is the Australian market with the Australian dollar. Brand new dual cab diesels like the Ranger or Hilux are $70k plus, Brand new Chinese dual cabs are $40k. Once you start looking at 3.5 ton+ towing the market gets pretty skinny and most of them are 100k plus. We dont have a history of massive pickup trucks like big old F350s and C30s that are cheap enough that you can just have one for when you need to tow.
Utility vehicles that run and drive and arent heaps of absolute shit here are around $5k if they are roadworthy because theres always a new apprentice plumber who needs a work vehicle. If this guy NEEDS to tow big things over long distances and wants to do it in comfort, its not a long list of vehicles. Not arguing that THIS guy isnt almost certainly a wanker, but I know the local market and know it well.
Edit: just out of curiosity I opened up Carsales, a fully loaded F350 here is over $250k, Ram Laramie too. For $30k there were 4 cars in the whole country that could tow 4 ton and they were all 90s landrover defenders, only 1 with reasonable mileage. For $10k you can get a 2013 Ranger with 320,000kms on the odo but it can only tow 3.5. Theres nothing that can tow 4 tons for less than 20k and its a thrashed 90s Landrover with 410,000 kms on the clock.
Australia doesn’t exist.
Yes it does.
See many many years ago the Poms found a lovely sunny place thats amazing to live and decided that it sounded like a brilliant place to send their convicts while they stayed home, got wet all the time, died of consumption in T'Pit and got really shit at all the sports they sent us over with.
Also, whats the different between a british airways jet and a british tourist? The jet stops whining when it reaches Sydney.
Did a British upset you?
Who hasn’t the British upset?
Probably Canadians, but no one can upset a Canadian.
I remember seeing a RAM 3500 around Sydney, and wondering what would posses someone to import it.
I know a few people with one or something like it.
Its mostly people who have a legitimate business case for owning one (Landscapers/Builders/Horsey people) and use that as a justification to own one that also suits their weekend pursuits. (Race cars, boating, 4x4, caravanning/camping)
If you can make your work vehicle also your family vehicle and part of your toy collection AND tax deduct the lot... makes sense.
I have a neighbour that is none of those things and owns a black one. He is a big fella, and nice enough bloke, but often has to reverse back up suburban streets because he can’t get past the parked cars.
His wife has a white Tesla 3 and is stereotypical “I have a self-driving car so I don’t need to look up when I am driving”.
I basically treat truck drivers the way I treat cops at this point. Keep a safe distance and treat them like really stupid but dangerous and highly aggressive animals. Not surprising at all that most cops drive trucks.
Imagine thinking the car is the asshole in this situation
I drive an ‘92 geo metro just so I can park my car there and then abandon it if need be. Fuck you, fuck your truck, and fuck your money.
Just get some handles on your bumper. You can lift a Geo Metro with maybe one other person help.
As a truck owner (i have a farm) i am paranoid a hell about being evenly between the lines. If you can't afford to take care of your pavement princess when it gets dings then maybe you should get something buy something in your budget.
Also, if someone has a pickup truck and it's not at least a little dinged up, I'm judging them. Those are working vehicles, not eye candy.
This is the big one for me too. I'm Albertan; we have a lot of lifted crew-cab short box pickups with absolutely immaculate paint jobs.
If you want to waste money and fuel on a vehicle you don't need, at least have the class to buy an old hotrod
The really stupid part is that truck guy could have parked all the way over the other way and it would have had plenty of space.
But TruckBoy's whole idea was to manspread in to the 2nd spot so nobody could park there.
Leaving enough space for someone else to park would have been too soyboy/considerate and folks might have doubted his ability to be a selfish lover.
Truck driver has some "I'm The Main Character" energy
If you take the end spot and then park far away from the curb to be a dick, you probably deserve to get your car banged up. I love end spots. I snuggle right up against that curb.
This is why I pick the end spot. I have a wide car and I don't want it getting banged...so I hug that edge like a mother fucker.
Make it easy for people to not ding your car, and you won't get your car dinged.
Even when I’m driving my little mazda3, in love being by the curb or parking a few spots further away to have nobody on either side of me. Having the room and getting the extra 10 seconds of exercise are both good in my eyes.
I work in transport, it's a race every morning to get one of the 12-14 kerb spots so you can hug that kerb for safety, and it guarantees one side won't get a door opened into it.
queenslanders dont say "pal" like that
deffo looks like a queensland carpark though 🤔
edit: did a reverse image search, according to reddit its an old satirical post by "Barry Barrington"... still weird to end it in "pal" and not "mate"
It's a QLD rego plate on the corolla so the pic was taken in a Qld carpark. Probably said pal cause wankers in massive utes ain't our mates...
Im sure a Seppophile who drives a ‘Murucan truck would use “Pal”.
No shit it's satire. The sun also rose today.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who does this. I've had the great pleasure of doing this to the driver door of two giant asshole truck drivers in the last week. #justcompactcarthings
Update for anyone reading this later, the first truck definitely had to climb through the passenger seat, but unfortunately I had to leave before the second one did. It was overnight too! :(
I always loved parking my tiny mazda pickup right next to the biggest truck in the lot.
Doin’ the universe’s work. Carry on and be well.
as a certified shitbox lover myself, i would 100% box one of these fuckheads in, and maybe leave a little cart ding in the door as well.
I’m impressed the guy in the white car was able to get out of that
Also the dude in the big truck has a small penis, this just convinced me.
I would also 100% climb out of my trunk to give that "fuck you" to the truck. Only a shame they couldn't block the drivers side.
I have done this. Shitty hatchback was the best teenage car.
Edit: they're in Australia. They DID block the driver's side! Fucking hero right there.
We drive on the Left in Australia. That is the Drivers side.
It’s a shame they’re not flipped so white car could park 1 cm from the truck driver door. See how you like climbing into your pavement princess from the bed pal
I live in Qld.
Qld stands for Queensland.
Queensland is in Australia.
In Australia we drive on the left hand side of the road.
So the steering wheel is on the opposite side (right).
The truck can't get in the drivers side.
😘👌
Ah I didn’t catch that. Well done Camry, well done.
But, but, but... They can just climb in from the passenger side and comfortably scoot over, right? I mean that thing is huge, you might even be able to just walk over.
Kiwi who does the same thing to muppets who picked a car they couldn’t handle… most of them seem to be the big American style utes like Rangers although there is the occasional Range Rover…
WYM? If it is qld (Australia) then the cars are right hand drive.
Good point! Though it doesn’t look like that much more room on the right side. But that makes this absolutely hilarious.
That's probably cause you don't realise Australia is a right hand drive country, so driver is on the opposite side to US and most of Europe.
In Australia this is the driver's side of the truck.
If you buy a car that's a problem, I will make sure it becomes your problem and not mine.
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As someone who had a car and wanted to avoid door dings: you have to do this at the far back of the parking lot when the majority are empty. If the parking lot is mostly full, you have to park somewhere else
Soon parkings need to have dedicated spots in the back and signs for oversized cars. Some already have spots for cars with trailers and large vans.
Or semi trucks! I've seen that too!
literally this, just walk farther dumbass. It's good for you anyway.
another massive beef of mine, though ironically, i think older cars were much better along this line, since you could probably just open the door all the way in a parking lot and it wouldn't even be close to touching the other cars.
Doors are fucking annoying bro. Why do they gotta be so fucking big. I have to shimmy my way out through the door while holding it in between notches because it won't fucking sit still outside of them.
It was more that the size of parking spaces themselves have shrunk an insane amount.
Are the spaces smaller or are the car bigger? Because I know for a fact cars are getting huge.
Even Kei Cars are getting bigger.
A Gen1 Jimny was 3620mm by 1295mm for a LWB Stockman Ute/pickup/truck
A Gen4 Jimny is 3645mm by 1475mm for a SWB 3-door.
which is funny, you would think they got bigger over time.
Parking lots are a "loss center" they cost to build and maintain, but don't generate money themselves.
So more cars per lot size, equals more area they can use for retail space or more shoppers.
true, i would think there is some regulatory body on the size of parking spaces though. Especially for accessibility.
Parking spaces (minimum) setout sizes are governed by an Australian Standard, which is enforced by planning and building permit compliance.
There is usually a requirement to provide a certain minimum number of spaces depending on the building usage, which is set out in the local government planning scheme. Most of the time, the more parking you have, the less area is available for the actual building and other uses.
The upshot is that parking is nearly always designed to the minimum standard, which these days is far too small for the large trucks that the small egos like to drive.
similar here in america, idk about the size for them, but there is a minimum number of required spaces to hold based on land use regulations. Which is really cool.
Looks like Stocklands in gold coast
I believe last time I saw this come up it was a parking lot used by mine workers. Like they park here before being shuttled out to the mine or something?
certainly looks like it could be a long term at an airport
Wish American parking lots had shade like this.
We should be shading every parking lot with solar panels. Why the hell we aren't, I don't understand.
Basically it’s cheaper to install panels on rooftops due to less supporting structure needing to be built.
Okay but people also want weather protected parking, let's do both if we can't get proper public transportation instead!
You might want that, and it would be great, but have you stopped for one second to THINK OF THE SHAREHOLDERS???!?!?? Spending money to make YOU happy? Pffffft, over their dead bodies.
Well, if they insist
That wouldn't make the coal companies happy and they pay senators to make sure they stay happy. Or, they bail out a president after he bankrupts a casino during the casino boom and then gets appointed to secretary of commerce.
Because we don't have power grids that would work well with overproduction.
Go to Arizona
Or some caltrops
I didn't know these ridiculously oversized vehicles also came with a free ridiculously oversized entitlement complex.
They don’t. You need to already have one to buy one though.
I’m not your frendo, buddy.
I'm not your buddy, guy.
I'm not your guy, chief..
Nice truck. Sorry about the tiny peepee.
Is this a woolies car park ?
Probably a small suburban shopping centre, looks like the one at Taigum but then a lot of shops for those shade sails so who knows
Yeah one of my local shopping centres also has similar shades but my local woolies has those exact shades
My local standalone coles has metal roofing
Dudes, it’s a picture of a married couple. The text is AI generated and unrelated.