Spyke
lemmy.world

I eventually found her original performances, and frankly she is shown in memes to be much worse than she actually was.

IMO she failed for two reasons:

  • she thought that instead of repeating the known moves she creates her own, trying to use them to tell some kind of story. Judges did not find appreciation for that
  • I think she was the oldest from all contestants (she is 36 and youngest contestants was 16, so less than half her age), so no way she could make things as dynamic as they did and her moves were slower
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BigPotatoreply
lemmy.world

Saying the words "Break dancing" and "she creates her own moves [as why she failed]", to me, proves there's zero need for that to be an Olympic sport.

I've always kind of detested 'judged' sports, not the sports themselves but the idea of judging creative expression on a scale. Like, "We, the panel, have decreed that your moves were not funky fresh. Pop and lock your way to the locker room please."

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lemmy.ml

That isn't really how the judging worked though. First they had a huge panel of judges - 9 of them. And they judge them on 5 criteria: technique, vocabulary, execution, musicality, and originality. It is qualitative, but it's a comparative rating system with actual guidelines - so they each simply have to decide who did each thing better:

Maintaining physiological control while focusing on athleticism, form and spatial awareness.

The range of moves that display variation and the quantity of moves, ideally with minimal repetition.

The ability to land and perform moves smoothly, without falls or slips and while maintaining consistency and flow.

The ability to stay on beat, syncing movements to the rhythm of the music.

The capacity for improvisation, creativity and maintaining spontaneity with style and personality.

I don't think breaking necessarily needs to be in the olympics, but we're past the point of only allowing sports (looking at you, dressage) and we do have other artistic events (rhythmic gymanstics and synchro swimming). And, the scoring system for breaking was reasonable and able to determine valid winners.

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I was talking to my bud about the scoring system and how much of a sham it was she didn't get at least a few for originality. Literally nobody else did some of the moves she did in the competition. I'm not saying they were good or bad but they sure as fuck were original.

I sorta laughed when I heard she had a PhD in breakdancing before seeing the performance and ridiculed her after but she manages to do what nobody else has done to this degree and that is to push breakdancing forward in the human conscience. So maybe she doesn't deserve to be ridiculed for that PhD.

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While a simple solution for a popularity contest, it has great drawbacks when looking for techique comparison. Someone's family may be bigger or louder than others, some people may have more fans in the audience, who can afford to attend will skew the vote, being an international event would mean that it's likely the home team has the advantage as people from the host country have a greater opportunity to attend, some event crowds may be determined by time of day or by public transportation, and the audience may not see the whole (5 hour breakdancing) event and certainly won't see the performers as well/as close as the judges would. Additionally the audience has so many new viewers during the Olympics that don't know how hard certain moves/sequence of moves are while some easy flashy moves will wow a crowd every single time. None of those things show particularly compelling qualification to determine how technically good the performer/performance is.

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Yeah judges and the MC making live commentary like "Woo girl you got the moves!" And no actual rating system already makes it a popularity contest and its not like there is a wide expansive network of smaller competitions to find the actual best performers.

It's not a sport even though it could be. It's an industry wanting representation so it can feel important.

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I found her performances and to me it was absolutely not the moves that let her down. It was a complete lack of rhythm and flow.

They were bad.

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lemm.ee

I have already invested more than I would into finding the performance (i.e. 5 mins), but all I find are videos talking about it. Do you have a link?

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lemmy.world

Wow, you are not wrong. It's like it's been fucking scrubbed from the internet. I may actually have to look for a torrent.

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It depends where you are if you are in Europe then it might be on YouTube on Eurosport channel.

In US www.nbcolympics.com you get 30 minutes. Go to explore sports and select "breaking". If you go to schedule on olympics.com you can find the points where she performed.

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lemmy.world

It seems very hard to find the whole video for the breakdancing

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chiliedoggreply
lemmy.world

NBC blocked anyone I the states from watching it without Peacock, and now they're taking the replays off Peacock because Fuck you that's why.

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tetris11reply
lemmy.ml

same in UK. This is why people use Tiktok

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JackbyDevreply
programming.dev

A lot taken down due to copyright claims (shouldn't an international competition about peace be free to distribute?) so s lot of people are just recording their TV with their phones.

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You have to understand the absolutely massive amount of money being shoveled at the Olympics committee by the network that gains the right to show these performances. And the mountains of cash they in turn get in advertising revenue. The Olympics is one of the most capitalist events on the planet.

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lemm.ee

Unfortunately Reddit is still one of the best and easiest ways to find stuff like this - here is the full performance

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ddittyreply
lemm.ee

I just combed through that thread and could not find a working link to a vid of Raygun's performance

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Kaputreply
lemmy.world

Thanks but I don't even know what peacock is. And an not really interested in more subscriptions.

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Fair enough, my apologies. I did that insular thing where I assumed you were in the U. S. My bad.

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Jteereply
lemmy.world

I'm going to comment here in case someone posts a link for us to watch lol

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LiveLMreply
lemmy.zip

Hope someone has a rip laying around.
Seems like my local TV broadcast all sports except break-dancing for some reason...

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I found a few posted by CBC (on YouTube) but can't find the bit from this meme

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lemmy.world

People often say "we should send one normal person to show how hard what they're doing actually is"

This is what happens when we do

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dlokreply
lemmy.world

How do I search for the origin of this meme?

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midwest.social

I don't believe a word of any of this, especially because of the unsourced line "From Reddit."

However, even if you were to lose every speck of skepticism the internet should have trained you to have, I still wouldn't care because that's fucking funny and the Olympics aren't serious business.

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Either way, I'm unsurprised that at least one contestant (especially in a subjective event) seemed like an odd pick the first time the event was held at the Olympics.

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This would be a great time-capsule meme, with no context or explanation.

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lemmy.world

Can anyone explain to me why this guy became a meme? I'm out of the loop

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Most competitive shooters are using special equipment and he looks comparatively very casual.

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lemmy.world

Most Olympic athletes are young and wear fashion athletic clothes donated by endorsers who help pay them. In addition in the shooting category you're (as I understand it) allowed a certain amount of tech to help you out. This man is older, didn't wear the endorsed fashion clothes or the tech and won gold silver so he feels like a rare "every man" win in the Olympics. He is not an "every man" (believe he's a decorated military and police man in his country), but a lot more people can relate to him winning gold silver than a 14 year old who's been training for this since diapers in a fashion house outfit.

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Oof I feel bad for his partner had no idea he was in pairs from the way he's been talked/meme'd about....

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