In Australia I knew I guy who was a SovCit and he would do stupid things like quote the bill of rights. We'd say "what bill of rights?" Australia doesn't have one. All his info came from the US and he just followed it with realising none of it was relevant in a different country.
True. But things like the UCC are real laws. Sovcits just hilariously misinterpret them. There is no such law in other countries. Plus sovcit stuff is based on common law. It makes even less sense in civil law jurisdictions.
Fortunately I haven't bothered keeping up with him for many years, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was doing that. And protesting vaccinations too probably.
There is a similar movement to SovCits that is at least properly adapted to other countries (specifically the Commonwealth and Ireland's) laws called "Freeman on the Land."
that would of course be count Binface, who is a space alien and thus obviously is only subject to any human law in so far as that he chooses to go along with it.
in general, things do exist out of the U.S, its just people in the U.S do it more publicly. Its like racism, and how some people think U.S is the most racist due to media and social media, its actually very far from that on the general scale of things when compared to other countries.
Let me make sure I follow what happened here... He got a bunch of paperwork he presumably needed to sign in several places? Instead of doing that he put a postage stamp (?) on top of the pile and "signed across" it?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this apparent notion that signing a stamp is supposed to have some official function lol I'm assuming it's something he dreamt after a particularly large meal
A 2014 survey asked US law enforcement officials to rank terrorist threats to the United States. They ranked sovereign citizens as the highest threat — with Islamic extremists coming in second.
Jeez
I can't imagine a country that ranks it's own citizens as the highest terrorist threat
I always wonder where and how these crazy sovcits are after all this time. October 2023 is quite a long time ago. Like I wonder if they're homeless, if they ever got back on their feet after everything they do fails.
I don't authorize you to close the account.
We are the bank. We don't authorize you to bank with us.
I don't know what they think their next move is. It seems pretty clear to me that the bank has won. Anyway…
That's illegal, I signed it crosswise so you are beholden to your half but I am free of all responsibility and obligation.
They know what's going to happen. It's just a vertical for them to get into an uproar about their sovereign rights.
Huh. Call me provincial, but I had no idea that sovereign citizens existed outside of America. The idea of a Cypriot sovcit never occurred to me.
In Australia I knew I guy who was a SovCit and he would do stupid things like quote the bill of rights. We'd say "what bill of rights?" Australia doesn't have one. All his info came from the US and he just followed it with realising none of it was relevant in a different country.
To be fair pretty much all the US sovcit stuff isn't relevant or applicable in the US either
True. But things like the UCC are real laws. Sovcits just hilariously misinterpret them. There is no such law in other countries. Plus sovcit stuff is based on common law. It makes even less sense in civil law jurisdictions.
I did expect Australian and British sovcits, but didn't expect Greek ones.
I didn't expect Spanish SovCits...
No-one expects The Spanish SovCit!
I don't know man. Idiots are everywhere.
None of it is relevant in the USA either, it’s all bullshit.
Were they one of the lost idiots waving a Trump flag during the Victoria lockdown protests? I still cringe to this day.
Fortunately I haven't bothered keeping up with him for many years, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was doing that. And protesting vaccinations too probably.
There is a similar movement to SovCits that is at least properly adapted to other countries (specifically the Commonwealth and Ireland's) laws called "Freeman on the Land."
We have people in Canada who demand their first amendment rights and put Trump stickers on their trucks. These people are not the smartest.
We call them "autonomous" in the Netherlands, and Germany has "imperial citizens".
Everywhere has its own flavour of these morons thanks to the Internet. And they often literally copy the talking points, and occasionally even laws.
Pretty sure they're called "wappies" in the Netherlands
Well, Autonomen are a flavour of Wappies :P
We have a few so-called sovereign citizens in the UK.
And ONE actual sovereign citizen.
that would of course be count Binface, who is a space alien and thus obviously is only subject to any human law in so far as that he chooses to go along with it.
Alas US stupidity leaks.
Here in Australia
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-08/nsw-magistrates-report-sharp-rise-in-sovereign-citizen-cases/102285772
https://theconversation.com/living-people-who-are-the-sovereign-citizens-or-sovcits-and-why-do-they-believe-they-have-immunity-from-the-law-143438
They have been identified in 26 countries.
the internet was a mistake
It is effectively a memetic virus, and there's no SCP foundation to implement quarantine procedures...
It's nice to know America doesn't have ALL the idiots
in general, things do exist out of the U.S, its just people in the U.S do it more publicly. Its like racism, and how some people think U.S is the most racist due to media and social media, its actually very far from that on the general scale of things when compared to other countries.
The anti-vax conspiracy crowd in Britain is heavily SovCit. They seem to think the magna Carta means they can be selfish arseholes
Let me make sure I follow what happened here... He got a bunch of paperwork he presumably needed to sign in several places? Instead of doing that he put a postage stamp (?) on top of the pile and "signed across" it?
Am I reading that correctly?
So it would seem. What that means in sovcit land I know not.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this apparent notion that signing a stamp is supposed to have some official function lol I'm assuming it's something he dreamt after a particularly large meal
I found an article that explains the stamp thing. And it's just as stupid as you'd expect it to be.
https://www.vox.com/2016/2/9/10942860/sovereign-citizens-movement
Ahahahahaha
It is though. They are violent sometimes.
That made my head hurt 😵
Jeez
I can't imagine a country that ranks it's own citizens as the highest terrorist threat
I think he signed, "The authorized representative of [name]." as opposed to just his name.
Yes. The answer to their question is yes, it does look like a termination letter to me.
I always wonder where and how these crazy sovcits are after all this time. October 2023 is quite a long time ago. Like I wonder if they're homeless, if they ever got back on their feet after everything they do fails.
excuse me, what do you mean "my country"? not very sovereign of you.
Are they asking a trick question?
At least the Discordians were harmless.
Well, mostly. Some are dire.
This is just embarrassing.
Harmless until they start rolling out golden apples. :)
How did I know the man would be called George.
God I love Greece.
Seems to be Cyprus from the letterhead.
"Signed across them"? What is that even supposed to mean?
Archangelos Micheal.... Come on... (Second line on the return letter)... Ugh.
can we trick them all into going the same place