Spyke
lemmy.ca

It's never clear whether they're more corrupt or more stupid. But they're determined to bury their heads in the sand over the most important issue ever to face humanity, and dismantle the resources the USA has to mitigate the disaster. Corrupt and stupid and delusional.

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RvTV95XBeoreply
sh.itjust.works

Fuck climate change, NOAA provides hurricane and heat warnings. They're what most weather providers use as the basis for telling people if you should grab an umbrella on your way out the door

Starting a culture war with the weather is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. What's your end game? Weatherman Alex Jones telling Floridians to go to the beach because the hurricane is just going to glide by safely and bring a nice cool breeze to the shore to keep you comfy?

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lemmy.world

Climate change affects everybody numbnuts. It's not culture war to want a habitable and healthy planet. If that's what you think, you should talk to more scientists, and watch less tv.

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RvTV95XBeoreply
sh.itjust.works

I think you misinterpreted my comment, the point was they're obviously doing this because they want to continue to deny climate change, but that's like 1% of what NOAA does.

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Freefallreply
lemmy.world

To be completely fair...they might also be doing it "so we stop getting bad weather"...so it is up in the air with those lunatics.

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lemmy.world

This is the typical Republican playbook. Privatize, their friends take control, and then they get the government to pay their cronies huge sums of money for the services the government used to provide for itself for a fraction of the cost. It's what they are trying to do with school vouchers too.

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Plutarch (Plut. Crass. 2.3-4) states that Marcus Crassus, one of the members of the ‘First Triumvirate’5, owed a good portion of his wealth to “fire and war”. In order to make the most out of the frequent destruction of houses by fire, Crassus bought over five hundred slaves, all of whom were architects and builders. He then proceeded to find homeowners whose houses had burnt down (or, in some cases, were still burning!) and negotiate the purchase of their property, after which he would reconstruct the buildings and sell them on at a price; the very literal sense of a real estate ‘fire sale’!

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Except that private weather companies use freely available government data and "enrich" it for the public for a fee.

Which is, imo, even more on brand with Republicans.

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lemmy.world

That sounds like something I would put on my plan to undermine and cripple a country if you ask me. Did an enemy of America write Project 2025?

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lemmy.world

Because they allowed him to embarrass himself with the hurricane sharpie situation.

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lemmy.world

These jerks are doing it because they don't want to hear bad climate news. Fucking brilliant.

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

Oh no that's how they're getting it done. They want to do it because they want to make even more money off of weather apps.

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lemmy.ca

Don't worry, they're also doing that by taking down storm sirens and replacing them with mobile alerts because basic maintenance is too much to ask. They just assume everyone has access to a phone at all times and that said phone is charged and capable of receiving the alert. Y'know, because the young and elderly don't deserve to be warned of an incoming tornado!

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flickerreply
lemmy.world

Hold on. Let me tell you. Sirens in Tennessee are the most bass ackward thing already.

Instead of having a siren sound going off while there is danger in the area... the siren going off is just the NOAA voice reading the alert like you hear on the radio! Big ass "siren" goes, "The National Weather Service has issued a tornado warning for (list of counties). At 7:55PM, Central Daylight Time, a storm capable of producing a tornado was located-"

After it reads off this useless info, what does it do? It shuts off. It stops making noise.

How are you supposed to hear it over the rain and thunder? How are you supposed to know when the danger is passed?

If it worked like it does in Oklahoma I would defend it but this is a travesty.

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lemmy.ca

That's certainly not normal. I've seen numerous recordings of voice-capable sirens from TN and I've never seen one broadcast any EAS messages. Usually there's pre-recorded messages like "Tornado warning. This is a tornado warning. Residents should immediately take cover." stored on the controller which is used for such cases. For the siren to be doing what you're describing means something is seriously wrong with your sirens. Probably an incompetent EMA manager.

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flickerreply
lemmy.world

I obviously refuse to tell you what specific part of Tennessee I'm in but I'll try to find someone to email about it.

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Definitely get in contact woth with your local EMA. With storms only getting worse and more frequent it's pretty urgent.

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I'm just going to call my friends who live to the west every 10 minutes and ask if there's a tornado there. If they don't answer I'll just assume there is one and go hide. Problem solved.

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They still mad that they didn't change their hurricane report when Trump redrew it with a Sharpie.

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lemmy.ca

Basically do what you did to healthcare to the entire country

The US will next year be a third world banana Republic dictatorship

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Echo Dotreply
feddit.uk

Oh no, worse than that, at least banana republics actually have useful exports.

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No, exactly like that. The US has lots of useful exports, and as with banana Republics, almost all the money goes to a very limited set of rich and powerful

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

Actually it's just because there's rich people who are profiting off of weather reporting apps. NOAA is actually banned from advertising their reports. And they still have a sizeable portion of the market because it's just straight up a better service. So the next big windfall is to kill the government's public reports altogether and make the private apps the only place you can find them.

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Oh yeah that's 100 percent part of it. But the push over the line for modern mainstream conservatives is watching the government do something the private sector could profit from. That's literally the line they've said they wanted between public and private sector ever since I was old enough to pay attention to politics in the 90's. The climate change thing is why the radicals care and why it's a run at the entirety of NOAA instead of just the NWS.

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Peppycitoreply
sh.itjust.works

We alllll use NOAA to get our weather. That's what every weather forcaster uses. Even in Canada a lot of our data is from NOAA. Environment Canada has their own data but it's pretty shit in comparison.

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capitalreply
lemmy.world

If Trump wins I’m afraid more people will be saying this more often about more services.

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GreyBeardreply
lemmy.one

Its a classic republican tactic to claim the government is useless and needs to be replaced, then cut funding so the government can't do its job, then use that as proof that they were right to cut funding.

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lemmy.ca

Shades of "Who would have thought healthcare was so complicated?" No offense. There are so many basic services people just don't think about.

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Wished american services and government functions are course(s) taught in middle and high school. It's a huge shame that almost no knows how the government works in detail, including me, as I have to learn as I go.

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I bookmark forecast.weather.gov with my location, which has that gif and other figures available on the page.

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That's how we solve the homeless crisis and the unemployment?....

So are there any hurricanes coming this month? Dunno. Oh well!

Hurricane comes and erases let's say 10% of Texas and Florida. Then we just ship the homeless there to rebuild, and live permanently until another hurricane 🌀.

Yeah great idea! And imagine the economical impact if everyone was employed!

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lemmy.world

I just got a weather alert for severe storms. If they get rid of NOAA does that mean that I've just got to hope for the best at all times?

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pivot_rootreply
lemmy.world

Cool, so, whose pockets are those taxes dollars going back into? I'm sure it ain't going to be ours.

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lemmy.ca

Yall realise project 2025 isn't even going to be implemented right? Its some plan cooked up by a think tank and isn't endorsed by Trump.

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xorreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

31 of the 38 people who helped write or edit the project served in some manner in Trump’s administration or transition

Project 2025: inside Trump’s ties to the rightwing policy playbook

Some more extracts:

Roberts, the Heritage leader, has said he met with Trump several times and they were friendly. Trump gave the signature speech at a Heritage conference after Roberts took over the foundation. When Roberts was tapped for the role, Trump said he would be “so incredible” and “outstanding”.

Paul Dans and Steven Groves co-edited the project, which includes chapters on federal agencies written by former Trump officials, allies or other conservative experts. Both Dans and Groves served in multiple roles in the Trump administration. Another big contributor to the project is Russ Vought, who Trump appointed as director of the Office of Management and Budget.

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He also said he didn't know about the Stormy Daniels payments. 34 felony counts later...

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Is "Anything they do, I wish them luck" the new "Stand Back and Stand By"?

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I have to ask, the fact that you're lying to deny Project 2025 rather than defending it means you know how bad it is, so why, knowing that, do you still support it?

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Weird username, probably nothing we should pay attention to...

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