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Trump Fumbles Repeatedly in Terrifying Speech at Florida Rally

“We will institute the powerful death penalty for drug dealers, where each dealer is responsible for the death, during their lives, of 500 people or more,” he said.

"Mothers will never again be forced to watch their children overdosing in hosp … and we will never allow mothers to watch their child hopelessly dying in their arms screaming, ‘What can I do, what can I do? Help me God, what can I do?’ We are a nation whose once revered airports are a dirty, crowded mess,” Trump continued, pivoting suddenly.

“You sit and wait for hours and then are notified that the plane won’t leave, that they have no idea when they will. Where ticket prices have tripled. They don’t have the pilots to fly the planes, they don’t seek qualified air traffic controllers, and they just don’t know what the hell they are doing.”

“We will take over the horribly run capital of our nation in Washington, D.C., and clean it up, renovate it, and rebuild our capital city, so that it is no longer a nightmare of murder and crime. But rather it will become the most beautiful capital anywhere in the world,” Trump said.

“Right now, if you leave Florida, ‘Oh, let’s go, darling, let’s look at the Jefferson Memorial, let’s look at the Washington Monument, let’s go and look at some of the beautiful scenes,’ and you end up getting shot, mugged, raped,” he warned, promising that he’d run the city “tough and smart.”

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lemm.ee

Watch how this story disappears within a day. But the trolls will still be talking about Biden in the debate until next January.

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jwigglerreply
sh.itjust.works

Difference is, no republican cares if Trump is mentally fit to be president, nor will being mentally unfit cause him to lose the election.

Democrats and Biden on the other hand...

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It gets old seeing the people with power continue to use it delicately so as not to upset people, while also not doing a goddamn thing about the opposition who FULLY abuses everything they can touch.

It's always the same thing

One side speaks respectfully of the other

one side doesn't push hardline questions and issues when they know can get the other side to say something that shoots themselves in the foot

One side tries to keep the peace

One side treats people with kiddie gloves

One side has reasonable policies and goals, or just simply doesn't change bad ones

The other side however, is constantly spraying a firehose of bullshit all over everything at every opportunity by constantly sabotaging the entire country in order to "one up" some imaginary opponent, actively calling for persecution AND prosecution of anyone who doesn't fit their cookie cutter mould (that they themselves don't need to fit into), punishes anyone for trying to make the country better, and has no qualms with lying, cheating, sabotaging, straight up committing massive amounts of felonies, all for no better reason than the infantile desire to be in opposition of something that helps another person.

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Please don’t misconstrue this but: This exact sentiment is why I didn’t really care that the left somewhat overreacted to the ruling about presidential immunity. I know that some of the things people spread about the results of that case just aren’t true. People immediately went hyperbolic with their reactions to the point of misinformation.

Normally, I’d disavow that misinformation and get onto them about it. Instead I thought “this is how the left should be reacting, even if for some of the wrong reasons”

And we can make an argument for not stooping down to the republicans level, but why wouldn’t we? Sitting on a throne of perfect correctness isn’t helping us. I’m not saying we go full anti-factual, but the time for criticism of your own side is when you can afford to lose. We cannot afford to lose.

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lemmy.world

no republican cares if Trump is mentally fit to be president

This issue, in this case, isn't mental fitness. Trump's comments are right in line with what he was saying four, eight, and forty years ago.

He loves the idea of lynchings as a tool of criminal justice enforcement, particularly when the lynchings target the political underclass. He loves the idea of accusing entire populations of violent criminality, particularly when those communities don't support his political goals. And he loves the spectacle of it all - the pomp and circumstance of the courts leveraged against his opponents, the "beautification" of a gentrified neighborhood, and the fixation on tourism as an end goal of any socio-economic renovation.

Republicans eat this shit up now, just like when they ate up Michael Bloomberg's Disneyfication of downtown New York or the massive tourist traps that Nevada and Arizona and Florida has been turned into. Conservatives dream of living their lives in one big resort community, Donald Trump knows it, and this is his promise to do to DC what was done to so many other Reagan-Era cities and states.

To say he's mentally unfit would imply he wasn't vibing right along with the tens of millions of white nationalist suburbanites who think the whole country should be a country club that pampers them 24/7.

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The mental fitness question isn't because of his view that we're already in a Mad Max hellscape only he can lead the true believers out of.

The mental fitness question is because he sounds like he's having a stroke anytime he has to string together more than 2 sentences.

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lemm.ee

Why would it disappear? Everyone's talking about it, more and more every day. The Internet is exploding with demands for trump to step down.

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Trump stepping down would be the single most unlikely thing in the universe. Where tf would they find an equally shitty candidate to replace him? Nikki Haley might have a chance but is a little too sane to fit the bill. If they replace Trump I'll go outside and watch for flying pigs.

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lemmy.ca

That's what everyone's telling me. Everyone I know says it.

Nah, I can't continue. I don't even know his rhythm of idiot logic enough to copy it.

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danc4498reply
lemmy.world

That’s because democratic voters expect more from their candidates. Let the republicans put up this joke of a fascist. I expect better than Biden and Hillary Clinton and will be happy the day Biden drops out.

And if he doesn’t, I will vote for him and bitch about the Democratic Party the same way I did in 2016.

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lemm.ee

I’ll be doing the same. Unlike a lot of the people complaining here. Hopefully he wins and we can regroup over the next four years. If the no-voters learn their lesson from how close it can get, maybe we can work together over that time to get someone younger, and more effective. Until then- Biden is all we have to stop America from becoming a fascist dictatorship.

Disclaimer: To the troll that follows me around accusing me of making blanket statements when I never do- note how I said “a lot” not “all.”

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I disagree that he is all we have. If he drops out before the DNC, that is plenty of time for his replacement and their VP pick to make an impact on the campaign.

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

there's nothing trollish about it. first of all, i don't understand why some liberals are crying so much about TFG fumbling and no one calling for him to drop out.

WHO'S SUPPOSED TO CALL FOR IT?

his base? they love him and don't care.

his opposition? why? he's a terrible candidate most people hate. why would his opposition want him to drop out? so that a less hated person replaces him and guarantees the republican win? you do know Clinton was the only person in the world who could've lost to him, and now Biden is trying super hard to be the second, right?

the reason people are calling for Biden to drop out is because he's polling unfavorably against TFG. the reason they're not calling for TFG to drop out is because he's a much hated person who would've surely and easily lost if only someone looking vaguely alive would run against him.

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jwigglerreply
sh.itjust.works

I believe the meme should say "approval rating at 35%"

Edit: the OP corrected me below

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bobburgerreply
fedia.io

So the whole argument the poster is making is based on a general misunderstanding of what's going on?

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snooggumsreply
midwest.social

Which is not out of place for a president at this point in their first term.

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jwigglerreply
sh.itjust.works

Approval ratings at the end of first term:

  • Harry S. Truman: 32%
  • Dwight D. Eisenhower: 59%
  • Lyndon B. Johnson: 49%
  • Richard Nixon: 24%
  • Gerald Ford: 53%
  • Jimmy Carter: 34%
  • Ronald Reagan: 63%
  • George Bush: 56%
  • William J. Clinton: 66%
  • George W. Bush: 34%
  • Barack Obama: 59%
  • Donald Trump: 34%
  • Joe Biden: 36%

Idk dude, of the four below 40%, 3 of them did not see a second term.

Sources:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/final-presidential-job-approval-ratings

Edit: Anyone upvoting this comment is now cursed by my stupidity

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Uh, what?

Removing trump and Biden from the list, since one of them will see a second term, of the other 4 only Carter didn't see a second term. Truman was only elected President once, but he served as President for almost 8 full years. Nixon won reelection, but resigned before his second term was out.

And even if you go as far as saying that 3 of the 4 didn't serve 2 full terms... I think it's highly unlikely either of the 2 current candidates will see the 2028 election.

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Yeah I'm just an absolute idiot, that is what's going on with that comment lmao. You're right

Still, if you are comfortable with where Biden's campaign is at this point, if you're confident that he can win given his current approval and polls...you're at least lot more confident than me, and a lot more confident than many democratic lawmakers

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Are you suggesting that the GoPs bogeyman was tied for third-most popular president?

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And it's relatively meaningless because a lot of Americans are forced to vote, every fucking election for their entire adult life, for the lesser evil.

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bobburgerreply
fedia.io

That's 36%, not 35%. According to the link you shared overall Biden is polling about 40%, 2.2% behind Trump.

That also shows Trump at 36%, so polling at 36% is pretty good for that tiny subset of the poll you shared.

Here's a link to the entire poll that you decided not to share for some reason.

Interestingly enough the headline for the poll you didn't link is "Only Michelle Obama bests Trump as an alternative to Biden in 2024". I wonder why you went out of your way to obfuscate that.

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lemm.ee

Sure, that's the narrative they went with, but notice how they're all on about equal ground with Biden and, unlike Biden due to his mental decline and his administration's lacking ability to communicate, might actually be able to run a coherent campaign if given the chance. Voters are overwhelmingly voting for Biden because he's not Trump. Any one of those candidates can both clear that bar and bring something to the table that actually motivates voters.

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bobburgerreply
fedia.io

I appreciate the good faith response rather than FUD and dismissive memes.

I agree with all of your concerns about the Biden administrations lack of communication and his age. However I disagree that any of those candidates are particularly exciting, they all have pretty much the same national and forgein policies Biden, they're just younger.

At this point being not Biden might be exciting enough for some people. Whoever the candidate is they'll still have the general DNC baggage turning of black voters. They'll have the same support for Israel turing of the anti-Israeli voters. Plus they'll have whatever individual baggage they have that most voters don't know about.

Also we have no idea how they'll perform in a national debate or how successful they'll be at campaigning. Running a presidential campaign is a completely different monster than a state race.

I don't disagree that an alternative to Biden needs to be considered, but I don't see a clearly better candidate out there or a way to replace Biden that won't cause even more problems for the DNC.

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I'm not saying they bring anything to the table that Biden doesn't, except maybe being able to avoid his reputation of going around congress to support Israel, but that goes both ways as Biden does have supporters that also support Israel and if Republicans attack a candidate's non-support, I don't expect a democratic candidate to play much defense for Palestine to bring those people back around.

I'm saying that Biden is unable to campaign and make voters aware of what he brings to the table and what he has done to make things better for the average American. Especially in the direct time after COVID.

I guess if nothing else can be done then we're about to watch the DNC learn another lesson at the expense of the stability of our entire nation because, mark my words, he (and we) will not be able to win this fight. The voters cannot be blamed for the failings of the democratic establishment.

Even if he does win, the DNC will have learned that they can put anyone up and cede as much ground to the republicans as they want, as long as the other guy is worse, and I wouldn't call that much of a democracy either. So I'd like to say that I hope I'm wrong, as I will be voting for Biden, but I really can't argue against anyone sitting this one out either.

I might be able to make an argument if they put someone else up, if they give me points to argue for, and I expect that might be the case among voters like myself en masse that argue in good faith and don't expect all the heavy lifting to be done via team-based politics and whataboutism. That is why I argue for democrats to do better even if time is running short. It's honestly, in my opinion, the best we can realistically hope for.

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Sure, convince the DNC that a progressive should be on their ballot, so we can vote for them and not waste it instead of senile men fighting for scraps.

The system needs to be gently brought to its knees before we can remove its head.

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lemmy.world

Mockery is the most effective way to beat Blue Maga (imo). We need to show how embarrassing it is to be associated with them.

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lemm.ee

And calling out the propagandists for their inability to understand the simplest concepts of politics, and their blatant misinformation is the most effecting way to beat MAGA trills.

How many of you get your posts removed for misinformation? Check the mod logs bud. Because from where I sit- the people urging everyone to vote get only their shit removed for bing uncivil and aggressive towards the propagandists urging people not to-

whereas the propagandists get their shit removed for misinformation. CONSTANTLY.

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lemmy.world

You are the propagandist kiddo, or rather, you are that whom have been so heavily propagandized to, you've lost your connection to reality; so from your perspective, everything that disagrees with your world view appears to you to be propaganda, because your connection to reality has been effectively severed.

And specifically thing thing that got called "misinformation"? It was an ground up analysis I did looking at Bidens probability of winning given his current approval rating. I can repost it if you like.

And guess what?

That analysis predicted this exact moment.

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lemm.ee

It’s unbelievably funny to me how you people cite “analytics” and polls to support your bullshit where you’ve been told time and again that that shit can say whatever you need it to say to support an agenda/argument, or in the case of news media- PROFIT.

Congrats man. You’re the reason you’re getting the news that supports your own beleif. Crazy, right? I know! Bonkers!!!

Everyone needs to vote like polls don’t exist. Plain and simple.

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"You people"

People like Nancy Pelosi or Adam Schiff?

Bro you've gaslit yourself into a fantasy land and you just live in denial.

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I listened to a podcast yesterday that said the same thing. Most of us were conservative/liberal at some point. What started to change our minds? Many change when our views are mocked by their wider social circles. Maybe not at once, but eventually.

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lemm.ee

Voters are demanding that trump step down and let another candidate take his place. It's all over the Internet. I heard he can't even tie his shoes anymore.

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suppo.fi

I heard he can't even tie his shoes anymore.

"Anymore" implies he was able to at some point

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dubvee.org

I heard it too. And everyone is talking about it. I'm talking about it right now! See?

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Well, he was asleep a lot of the time he was being convicted of being a felon so he is probably as tired as he looks.

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Trump looks, talks, and acts like someone who has had a series of strokes. As well has having mini ones like during his speeches. Sadly, most republicans are still lower than him in cognitive ability.

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bobburgerreply
fedia.io

Trump heard Joe Biden might have dementia so he went out and got even bigger dementia, the best dementia!

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People say it all the time, they tell him, he's got the best dementia, historic really. No airport could ever outshine his monumental brain fog.

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suppo.fi

Nobody has ever had more diminished cognitive capacity than me, everybody's saying it. I have the best deficits, just tremendous problems with coherent thought

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You sound like my kind of leader! Let's go, Brandon!! Save this country from all these mouth breathing librarians, let's go!

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I read the speech and then found the clip. It honestly looks like he was having a series of mini strokes.

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lemmy.world

“You sit and wait for hours and then are notified that the plane won’t leave, that they have no idea when they will. Where ticket prices have tripled. They don’t have the pilots to fly the planes, they don’t seek qualified air traffic controllers, and they just don’t know what the hell they are doing.”

Man who flies exclusively on private jets complains about public air travel.

Trump must really think we're all fucking idiots.

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lemmy.world

Trump must really think we're all fucking idiots.

Sadly, the people who attend his rallies are.

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Etymology

The word "idiot" ultimately comes from the Greek noun ἰδιώτης idiōtēs 'a private person, individual' (as opposed to the state), 'a private citizen' (as opposed to someone with a political office), 'a common man', 'a person lacking professional skill, layman', later 'unskilled', 'ignorant', derived from the adjective ἴδιος idios 'personal' (not public, not shared).[3][4] In Latin, idiota was borrowed in the meaning 'uneducated', 'ignorant', 'common',[5] and in Late Latin came to mean 'crude, illiterate, ignorant'.[6] In French, it kept the meaning of 'illiterate', 'ignorant', and added the meaning 'stupid' in the 13th century.[7] In English, it added the meaning 'mentally deficient' in the 14th century.[2]

Taken from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot

Seems to be accurate. Very accurate!

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lemmy.ca

I mean that's a reasonable superficial analysis and you can probably get through life on that without a lot of trouble... unless your smart, engaged son or daughter starts talking this bullshit one day, and you have to figure out what is really wrong, so that you can help them. Because calling them a fucking idiot? Ain't gonna save them.

I think this is a defense mechanism on your part. It's hard to deal with this, that so many people are so badly removed from reality that they cannot see these simple, important facts. But it's a lot like someone sees a homeless person, and they immediately jump to denigrate that person, to help them cope with their own emotional needs at the expense of their own empathy.

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Oddly, I don't have a lot of empathy for people who support a guy who has promised to destroy anyone who opposes him. There are only 4 basic reasons to support Trump: you're really stupid, you're really hateful, you're a Christian fundamentalist (heavily overlaps with "hateful"), or you're really rich. Usually it's a combination of those things.

The guy was president for 4 years and showed exactly who he was. You don't get to use the "Oh, they're just misguided souls" excuse any more.

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Calling them idiots isn't an effort to save them and in no way needs to fulfill that objective. Further, swallowing Trump's bullshit and honestly believing it is itself sufficient to qualify someone as an idiot. If someone is, in your words, so far removed from reality that they cannot see the simple important facts, then they are by definition not also smart and engaged.

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The problem isnt this obviously true fact you stated; it's that in the made up scenario in my head, your parenting skills are sub-par

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One of his many gaffes, and his biases are showing. But you could print a book of the horrible things said by Trump, and he meant every one of them.

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I would say this is because Trump's potential voterbase doesn't give a damn about having a competent, sane candidate. Biden's potential voterbase has significantly higher standards. It's easy to point out that there could theoretically be a better-performing candidate than Biden, but I don't think it's so easy to find someone that will get more conservative voter engagement than Trump.

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lemmy.world

Girl, did you watch the debate? What about earlier today when he spoke and said "Vice President Trump" instead of Kamala?

I've always thought Biden was polite and well spoken. He is VERY DIFFERENT when speaking now versus last time/2020. Not only is he incoherent at times, he's also weirdly petty and grouchy - he started to blame his staff today and then interrupted himself and said his wife was telling him not to. It was WEIRD because he normally would keep his composure and not even mention it. It's bad. He is clearly in elder decline.

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lemmy.world

I don't care to compare Biden to a random person - I care to compare him to himself, 4 years ago. And I'll vote for him, but for fucks' sake, stop gaslighting us. It's clear he's in mental decline. If this was my grandpa, I'd force him to go to the doctor and I would probably not let him drive.

And yes, part of being president is public speaking - so if you cannot do that, then you aren't qualified to be president. You're correct there. That's like, vitally important to the job.

No doctor can make that declaration due to HIPPA and state laws regarding diagnosing someone who isn't your patient.

Yes, Trump is worse. I've never disagreed there. But it's kinda concerning the only thing in the way of a fascist dictator is a man who is visibly going senile, and that man also will be in charge of laws and nuclear codes. It's like, bad dude. Like really really bad. I'd vote for fucking Dolly Parton or Willie Nelson over either of these guys. I'd vote for a dog or a cat. I'd vote for a toddler over them. I'm sure a toddler could understand climate change better to be honest.

It doesn't matter really anyway. We ran out of time. We are all walking corpses anyway. Enjoy your last few years. Even if we got the perfect climate president, even if every country in the world had perfect climate presidents, we'd still be pretty much out of time before we could make a solution (which will take years and will release more carbon and greenhouse gases). It was a good run.

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Work is inherently ableist. There are many many medical conditions that would stop someone from being an effective president, including dementia and aphasias. You could say it's ableist to allow a person who can't consent (not being in their right mind), to do as dangerous of a job and as taxing of a job as president.

And being able to communicate is pretty critical lol, regardless if you agree or not. A speech impediment is fine if it doesn't impact communication, but yes it's an issue if you can't understand them at all, unless they could perhaps sign (as in sign language). Communication isn't about speaking perfectly, it's about understanding your thoughts and getting others to see your point of view. Biden is not able to do either as he's switching names entirely, eg VP Trump and President Putin snafus.

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yiffit.net

I've seen a lot of comments saying he should step down. Lots of people talking about how unfit he is for office.

Allow me to increment.

He should step down. Ideally into a pit of lava, but that's just a stretch goal.

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lemmy.world

Lots of people talking about how unfit he is for office.

Sadly, these calls aren't coming from within the party itself. The GOP is fully in lockstep with Trump, while the Dems are - once again - stabbing one another in the back as quickly as they can swing the knives.

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lemmy.world

We should really take a lesson from the '80s Republicans, who had absolutely no problem pursuing their agenda despite a President who literally had Alzheimer's during his second term.

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Second term Reagan was, famously, not great for Republican election prospects. They lost a full eight Senate seats in '86.

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Oh no republicans are in charge! The donors to my political campaigns will be so disappointed!

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lemm.ee

It's almost like it's impossible to represent everyone with only two political parties.

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I'd say the deeper root of the problem is Congressional districts that encompass 600,000 residents each.

Capping the number of House Reps has turned the local political class into a gaggle of celebrity fundraisers and mega-bundlers.

How many people have actually met their Congressperson, much less a Senator?

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Kedlyreply
lemm.ee

That sounds like a great way to piss off a god, which god would want DRUMF as a sacrifice?

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sh.itjust.works

He's right though. I get shot, mugged and raped at least three times per week in DC. And I'm not even from Florida.

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The shootings, muggings and rap rings will continue till morale improves.

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lemmy.ca

we will never allow mothers to watch their child hopelessly dying in their arms screaming, ‘What can I do, what can I do? Help me God, what can I do?’

That sounds like what happened to Anti-vaxxers during COVID.

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Don't worry, the kids are already dead by the time they let the parents in.

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I can't believe they expect Big Government to solve the problem of children hopelessly dying in the arms of their screaming mothers. They should let private enterprise take care of that.

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That's his secret of success. He has the unique ability to fervently believe his own lies. If some other fucker like Cruz or DeSantis lies, you can always see they're aware of it and cringing inside. That's why they are never perceived as "authentic" by the moron base.

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lemmy.today

The rapist Dementia Don 34 needs to drop out. He's too old and his brain is cooked from all the adderall.

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lemmy.world

But Biden got confused during the debate after Trump lied about 50 different things. I'm not really sure I want a president who will get confused like that.

~literally all the pundits. (minus talking about Trump's blatant and near constant lies, I added that bit for color)

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Biden is in obviously the better choice but he is a pretty terrible choice. I didn't have a ton of my governor Newsome but if take him in a heartbeat over Trump and Biden. My issues with newsome are mostly based on him being a slimeball but not his politics.

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midwest.social

This is how he has talked since campaigning in 2016, just a random word salad of whatever he thinks will get him attention. Maybe it is getting worse?

I honestly can't tell because he has been incoherent the whole time, but hoping the media actually stays focused on it for a while.

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lemmy.world

He's gotten worse over time. I remember during the 2020 cycle seeing video comparisons even between his 2016 and 2020 debates.

I don't exactly enjoy going back and watching him talk, but it's shocking going back and comparing seeing how drastic the change has been.

Here's a bit of the 2016 RNC debate. Trump is still rude and crass. He's not coming off as an intellectual, but he's completing his sentences and making coherent points. He wasn't getting obviously confused like he has been since- talking about airports being involved in the Revolutionary War, claiming Nikki Haley was responsible for January 6th, the famous rant about his uncle being a genius, etc.

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Yeah he's always said incredibly dumb nonsense, but it sounds significantly more uncontrollable now. I honestly think he sounds more like a dementia patient than Joe Biden does.

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lemm.ee

Trump should also stop running for president.

I think I saw in another comment here on lemm.ee that biden should make it illegal for felons to be president (dont worry, its an official act!) and then biden resigns. I hope it happens. We need turn the country off and turn it back on again.

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Crikestereply
lemm.ee

“Trump is going to be a dictator, so Biden should become a dictator first!” lol

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paholgreply
lemm.ee

Biden is already a dictator, the supreme court decided that. He has the responsibility to use his powers as a dictator to return us to a democracy, but he's too out of touch with how much the political landscape has changed to do anything about it.

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We will take over the horribly run capital of our nation in Washington, D.C., and clean it up, renovate it, and rebuild our capital city, so that it is no longer a nightmare of murder and crime.

Uhhh why you no do that during your first term? It's not like DC has suddenly become shitty in the last four years.

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He also stirred his followers up to attack those capital police officers, so objectively he's done more harm than good.

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What slide? He was this incoherent during his presidency. This has been his way of communicating the entire time, and yet people die for him.

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lemmy.world

“We will take over the horribly run capital of our nation in Washington, D.C."

Can't disenfranchise us, we're already disenfranchised. Give us 2 senators and a representative, then you'll have something to take away.

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Soggyreply
lemmy.world

Let's get Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the Virgin Islands, and the Northern Mariana Islands proper representation as well.

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Fun fact: every battleship built by the United States has been named after a state except one, USS Kearsarge, which was named that in honor of the Kearsarge which sank the Confederate raider Alabama during the Civil War (the US Navy since then has always had a ship in commission with that name, as presumably a giant fuck you to the South). In order to restore the beautiful consistency of having every battleship named after a state, I think we should allow any of the territories you listed above to become the 51st state - so long as they change their name to "Kearsarge" first.

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sopuli.xyz

Samoa sounds really nice, especially when everything else collapses.

We already ruined Chagos. Not many other places to escape.

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jerk vision: "Soma sounds really nice, especially when everything collapses." Pass it to the left.

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Can't make DC a state for the same reason we can't make Puerto Rico a state

It makes perfect sense to do so, but would negatively impact the electoral college in favor of people who aren't Neo Nazis

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Well, yeah. Wouldn't wanna get involved in one of those limp-wristed, rainbow colored LIBRUL executions, now would we?

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The one where you are fed so much avocado toast and kelp until your stomach bursts?

All while doing yoga.

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lemmy.world

Something tells me he's not going to include the Sacklers in this crusade against "drug dealers."

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He can't even stay on topic because the issue at hand doesn't impact him. In his mind airports are the biggest issue to the American voter because he is dealing with it constantly while campaigning.

And that's ignoring the rhetoric. It would be funny if this wasn't the existential threat it was.

The only thing standing in the way of this sundowning narcissist fascist is a sundowning hubristic imperialist. At least he will try his best. 😮‍💨

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"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

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This is why fumbling is such a bad argument. People aren’t listening to the overall message. They are just tone fucking each syllable now as the only problem between these two and that’s a real problem

The problem with Biden was he should step down for someone else and the concern of that is pivoting this late can be bad for dems.

But that doesn’t mean we start the same measurement on trump as the message he is conveying is horrible. It doesn’t compare.

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ttrpg.network

Americans have a double-standard. If you profess to be a real politician, stand-up person, and trying to do good you have to appear strong, smart and effective. If you profess to be a fascist and want to hurt other people you can literally do anything and appear to be the dumbest, foulest, most incompetent piece of filth in existence and you won't lose any support.

Fuck me.

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When is he going to step aside for a more coherent Republican replacement? He is not fit for the office at such an age!

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feddit.uk

I can see what people are trying to do, but it doesn't work. The right wing talking points about the less-right wing don't work when flipped, because his followers don't care. They lap it up.

They're tootling around in mobility scooters covered with Trump flags and stickers. Their homes have been shrines to him since 2016. He could physically shit himself on stage and these people would still vote for him, no questions asked. Trump makes them feel good about their hatred they've been told is wrong for the last few decades. Their MAGA is an all-white suburb as far as the eye can see.

The only thing that will stop them is his death. A large chunk of the movement will die with him. Those followers don't really seem to care for the republican party. That's the only upside.

Fascism has the whole propaganda thing nailed down. It's just too hard to get people excited about a mediocre amount of progressivism. The Nazis got this and have been the model for it ever since.

I honestly don't know what the solution is.

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The solution would be to beat them at their own game. Build a radical left propaganda machine - like Star Trek or Doctor Who on steroids.

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lemmy.world

This will surely get the same 24/7 coverage for the next three weeks that Biden got for standing there being "low energy", right?

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lemmy.world

I think it's less about Biden's 'energy,' and more about him actively sundowning on the national stage

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lemmy.ca

The country basically ran itself while Bush and Trump played make believe. It's fine.

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Ok - You’re up NYT editorial board…

Now’s your time to shine…

Hello…?

NYT?

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Is he running for Mayor of DC? If so, the potholes in some of the suburbs badly need some TLC.

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For comparison, this is how Trump used to talk, back in the 2016 RNC debate.

He's always been an obnoxious and crass New Yorker, never what you'd call an intellectual or academic. But he used to stay on topic, finish sentences, make coherent points, and generally function. Now he's reduced to somehow shouting and mumbling at the same time, confusing names and years, connecting vague concepts together until he gets applause from the audience.

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lemmy.world

I know I'm gonna get downvoted to hell on Lemmy but it was just a normal speech fumble like everyone has, it was a bit weird that he changed subject like that but overall I wouldn't say "Fumbles Repeatedly in Terrifying Speech", this news to me seems petty and comes of smelling of desperation.

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lemm.ee

The fumbles are similar to what people have been upset about in the debate. Probably there are more important things to focus on, such as policy and competency.

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dhorkreply
lemmy.world

Dont forget Trump purged the RNC leadership and replaced it with his daughter-in-law. Trump can have his pants fall down on stage, exposing his very full adult diaper, and Republicans will shit themselves in solidarity.

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Neatoreply
ttrpg.network

Are those real Trump supporters and not detractors? It's really doing me in to believe Trump supporters think that looks good for his "strong man" appearance.

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sunzureply
kbin.run

Critical thinking spotted... Perma ban incoming, shitlord.

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Dude, there were a bazillion cameras present at that rally. It happened. Stop pretending it didn't.

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lemmy.ca

Some people needed the sarcasm tag there.

But I admire the optimism that said "nah, they'll get the joke"

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lemmy.world

While I would love this to be a reference to The Expanse, they're probably talking about the former president of the Philippines. Rodrigo Duterte had a policy of basically legalized vigilante murder for suspected drug dealers.

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Especially in the books. Duarte in the books is just like all the worst parts of Caesar (which I guess was part of the idea the writers had).

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in hosp … and we will never allow mothers to watch their child hopelessly dying in their arms screaming

He suddenly remembered that he is against UHC.

“We will institute the powerful death penalty for drug dealers

Meanwhile in Russia:

(Among people who said death penalty should be unbanned) "As a punushment for what crimes do you find death penalty to be acceptable?", multiple answers

Drugs / drug dealing: 3%

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fedia.io

Trump's plan is to do nothing more than inflict pain and death on people.

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His plan is to do what Republicans have been doing since Coolidge and Democrats have been doing since Carter. More police, richer bankers, lower taxes, bigger prisons.

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Witch hunt!1!! /s It's nothing but oral diarrhea. As usual! Move on, nothing to see here!

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I’m not meaning to detract from any of the terrifying nature of this

But also, is it just me or does TNR really need to fix their mobile site

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lemmy.world

NGL... Gonna be a good day in America, IF and when he has Zuckerberg thrown into prison along with all the other corrupt animals.

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Whoever is corrupt, get rid of them, no mercy. It's why I've recently became a fan of Bukele, guy not only cleaned up the streets of his nation, but then put the cross hairs on his own administration to make sure everything is halal.

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lemmy.world

"It's ok! Trump does it too!"

Biden's cult really thinks this makes it better, don't they?

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BigMacHolereply
lemm.ee

Yes Biden's Cult! The ones who support Biden to the Grave despite Biden selling our State Secrets to Enemies and having 34 Felonies and Raping Children with Jeffrey Epstein. Yes Biden's Cult!

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Not great for either

Well as long as you think both sides are the same and that makes it excusable.

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lemmy.ml

So then if the metric for voting is whos brain works the best, then Trump is still much better.

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Based solely on this single statement, if we ranked all three of you by 'brain works' potential, they'd both leave you behind.

Talkin' country miles of lead.

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