I said it as a joke, but honestly...cooking something together with a special someone then sharing a bottle of wine that guy absolutely roasts the very concept of detergent pods sounds like a great night
That's one of very few channels that both me and my brother in law share. We often ask each other if we follow one channel or another. He made a comment about Christmas light colour that made me ask
Dishwasher is regularly recirculating dirty, greasy water before rinsing. In order to save water, it just cycles the water with all the dirt through the dishes again, many times over. And only then rinses with a pure one.
Most people prefer ignorance to seeing their flatware get sprayed with filthy water. They'd say "eww that's disgusting" and hand wash everything from now on.
It's because of this recirculation that dishwashers consume significantly less water than hand washing.
But people use same water when handwashing too. One sinkful of soapy water first where you wash them, then a sinkful of clean water for rinsing and put them in the drying rack to dry. I believe the significantly is a debatable.
Modern dishwashers have to use less than 5 gallons of water for a normal load. To get the Energy Star rating, that has to be 3 gallons.
A typical two-basin, 33 inch kitchen sink, each basin measures 16in x 14in. Each inch of depth in each basin is approximately 1 gallon. To fill up both basins to a depth of 5 inches, that would take 9.6 gallons, more than 3x more than an Energy Star dishwasher.
I got a new dishwasher that has a "glass front door". I paid extra for the glass door for this reason - I want to see it. But guess what - hahaha - the glass door is simply placed over metal and you can't see shit.
Obviously, the dishwasher manufacturers don't want us to know about the gnomes.
Gnomes with cleaning equipment.
And when your dishes don't get very clean, that's because the gnomes partied a bit too hard the night before and just aren't up to their normal standards.
Hmm. That's also a great name for a punk band. Dishwasher Gnomes.
Going to trademark that right now.
To check the progress before electric displays and fancy indicator lights. Windows came before those upgrades when machines were still dial controlled.
Because people liked the feature. Look, I'm just saying WHY they added windows. That was the reason. I'm not saying it's a good reason or no one could figure things out before. They added them for that reason, people liked it, and it stuck around. Yet, there's always gonna be someone dragging out their 30 year old washer going "but mine is fine!". Never said it wasn't. Or someone pointing out that not all washers have a window even today. Cool. Nifty. But if yours does have one, that was the reason they got added.
That's what I still use and it does not. I have zero reason to know what's going on inside however because it literally operates on the equivalent of a kitchen egg timer. It's done when the dial says it's done. All controls are entirely mechanical. Washing machine is older than I am. I bet the damn thing is 50 years old.
Edit: Same as this one which seems to be a model from the 70s.
Because people liked the feature. Look, I'm just saying WHY they added windows. That was the reason. I'm not saying it's a good reason or no one could figure things out before. They added them for that reason, people liked it, and it stuck around. Yet, there's always gonna be someone dragging out their 30 year old washer going "but mine is fine!". Never said it wasn't. Or someone pointing out that not all washers have a window even today. Cool. Nifty. But if yours does have one, that was the reason they got added.
Congrats on having an ancient machine with no variable timing that finishes early and being able to look in tells you what step it's on easily at a glance instead of staring at your worn away knob. Good for you. Was it relevant at all to the discussion about why they added windows to machines that do?
Yes, it was relevant to the comment I replied to. It was an off topic segue that's common in the nature of what we call threaded discussions. That you feel you should copy and paste your response as if it's a personal attack to you or your argument is quite perplexing, but everybody's got their own way of seeing the world yeah?
Also, the thing is actually controlled by the knob's timer. There's no such thing as finishing early, the knob is what tells it to do a rinse cycle or whatever. You can set it at different points in order to make it do different things and it ticks away along it's cycle because of that. You hit switches to change the amount of water you use and select different start times based on the soiling and load size. It's pretty rad for a dinosaur, though you do have to make decisions that you might not have to make with an electronic high efficiency washer.
That's so cute! But... I can't imagine what I could remove from my kitchen to make room for that. I'd love to add a rice cooker but there's no room for that either .
I have a tiny kitchen but also an appliance addiction. I have an entire folding table dedicated to all my beautiful machines for which I lack counter space, lol
When I lived in a studio with negligible counter space, the portable dishwasher sat atop one of those commercial grade wire rolling racks, which also doubled as shelves for my irresponsible amount of spices
Don't let lack of counter space stifle your maximalism. Just make more counter space lol
I actually got the cheap table tops from IKEA and some adjustable metal legs and I use a weird space where the extra long radiator is and made a counter top out of it.
Making more space is almost always a good idea. And there are lots of ways to do it.
Haha, I love that. Spices are another one of my weaknesses as well. And I'd like nothing more than to do something similar to what you did, actually.
Problem is my wife doesn't like the aesthetics of my solutions. I'm slowly wearing her down, tho. We went with something that she liked but wasn't as practical as it should've been. She's realized that it's not what we we were hoping for and has agreed to change it.
Haven't found anything worthwhile at the obvious stores like Ikea and such so now I'm looking for alternatives.
The kind of thing you'd have in a small apartment where there is no space for a big one and you're single or a couple and don't have a lot of dishes to fill a big one with anyway.
The only thing I remember about Stewart Little, beyond him being a mouse, is that in the movie he gets trapped in the dishwasher and he is only saved because the family has a dishwasher with a glass front.
For some reason that scene has stuck in my head for 25 years. And I swear its because of their weird glass-front dishwasher that is just so out of place.
I think it just might be because the seal around the glass would inevitably fail from constant thermal expansion during normal use, thus leaking all over the damn place.
‘Just hot air’ is a bit of an understatement. Mine goes to 500°C during a cleaning cycle. It physically locks the door so you can’t open it when it does this. My dishwasher I can open at any time.
Fun fact you can hack a self-cleaning oven to use the hellfire temperature of 500 ° F to make good ass thin crust pizza!
you have to figure out how to bypass the door lock, use a pizza stone, and put the pizza as high up in the oven as possible. but you can get a damn good thin crust pizza with enough creative engineering and some experimentation.
recommended to try this project in winter as it dumps loads of heat in the house lol
It's useful to see the others, not sure how useful it would be to see inside a dishwasher. Could be fun though. Also probably is cheaper not to have it and could be better insulation.
Same reason fridges probably don't have windows even though that'd actually be handy. I once saw someone post about how their really expensive fridge actually has a window, but their mom put a curtain in front of it because seeing inside the fridge looked "messy". What a travesty
If you open a front-load washer in the middle of its wash cycle, it would dump 5–10 gallons (editors note: however much that is) of dirty, soapy water all over the floor. That's bad - so the manufacturer designs a window so that you can see that the machine is empty of water before opening the door.
I guess it's for that reason. Dishwashers could have similar problems but they might have a lot less water in them at one time and with the type of doors they have you might not dump as much on the floor or something.
Dishwashers don't fill up - they just have a well at the bottom (below the height of the door) and they spray water over the dishes to rinse of the dirt.
Washing machines need to fill up and soak the clothes so that they get everywhere, not just the outer layer.
My dishwasher can be opened at any time. The sprays stop instantly and the small amount of water can just sit there
My front loading washer also has a small amount of water that seems like it would just sit there if I could open the door. However the door is locked whenever it is spinning
I'd assume it isn't see through because you load it up with dirty dishes that sit for days before you run it. No one wants to spend days staring at the crusty spoon meemaw dipped in the peanut butter and licked like an ice cream cone before the wash is finally run
Modern dishwashers can easily clean tons of crust. That's why it takes them so long. As long as bigger chunks are gone and you clean the trap you are fine.
People who don't make a lot of dirty dishes? Running a dishwasher that is not full wastes water and energy. When I was single I would only run the dishwasher twice a week or so.
To show what a dishwasher does, they built one with a large window on the side for childrens television ("Sendung mit der Maus", German public TV Station ARD). Quite interesting and informative.
It might also have to do with the fact that a window is more expensive, but required for ovens and microwaves as food night burn otherwise, but usually there's no issue running a dishwasher longer than exactly required
You can open it but you every time you do, you lose heat, which has to be compensated for by the oven. A window makes the process much easier. There wouldn't really be measurable gains for a dishwasher
Here you go. It's gross!
https://youtu.be/_rBO8neWw04
Dammit, I had shit to do and instead watched a half an hour video about dishwashers.
Worth.
There are, in fact, several more hours worth of dishwasher content from the same channel. Doubly worth it
Wash it down with several hours worth of content on heat pumps. It's worth it.
Was expecting Steve Mould but I take Technology Connections.
Date idea: a nice dinner, followed by the feature-length Technology Connections Dishwasher Anthology
If this is your idea of a good date... If you're a gay man, I'll marry you.
I said it as a joke, but honestly...cooking something together with a special someone then sharing a bottle of wine that guy absolutely roasts the very concept of detergent pods sounds like a great night
Doesn't it? I really want this in my life. I don't know anyone IRL that likes that sort of thing D:
That's one of very few channels that both me and my brother in law share. We often ask each other if we follow one channel or another. He made a comment about Christmas light colour that made me ask
I feel like I prefer Technology Connections. Steve Mold never seems to go into all the details
Saw this post, instantly thought "Technology Connections", am not disappointed by the comments here.
The real reason is because dish washer water is freaking filthy until the last spray off.
You don't want to see that shit and eat off it afterwards.
I don't see why not.
Dishwasher is regularly recirculating dirty, greasy water before rinsing. In order to save water, it just cycles the water with all the dirt through the dishes again, many times over. And only then rinses with a pure one.
I know how dishwasher works. I mean I don't see why I wouldn't want to look at that. It is interesting regardless.
An average person doesn't want to see this and doesn't know it happens, which would potentially tank the reviews for the device.
Most people prefer ignorance to seeing their flatware get sprayed with filthy water. They'd say "eww that's disgusting" and hand wash everything from now on.
It's because of this recirculation that dishwashers consume significantly less water than hand washing.
But people use same water when handwashing too. One sinkful of soapy water first where you wash them, then a sinkful of clean water for rinsing and put them in the drying rack to dry. I believe the significantly is a debatable.
Modern dishwashers have to use less than 5 gallons of water for a normal load. To get the Energy Star rating, that has to be 3 gallons.
A typical two-basin, 33 inch kitchen sink, each basin measures 16in x 14in. Each inch of depth in each basin is approximately 1 gallon. To fill up both basins to a depth of 5 inches, that would take 9.6 gallons, more than 3x more than an Energy Star dishwasher.
So yes, significantly.
They rinse for like 15 minutes, then pump that off and get new water for the water, pump that off, and get a clean rinse.
exactly
I got a new dishwasher that has a "glass front door". I paid extra for the glass door for this reason - I want to see it. But guess what - hahaha - the glass door is simply placed over metal and you can't see shit.
THEY DON'T WANT US TO SEE!!!!
wtf. like it's a window to a wall, or like glass back phones?
The author's unique approach to capitalisation and spacing really makes this.
I always automatically assume that a space before a comma means it's a bot.
It makes me wonder if their native language doesn't have upper/lower letters. Chinese does not, and doesn't really use spaces the same way we do.
I was thinking the same thing. I had to read it out loud to fully understand
They don't want you to see the tongues licking the dishes
there’s a little gnome that lives in mine to lick them clean. charges exorbitant prices though.
Obviously, the dishwasher manufacturers don't want us to know about the gnomes.
Gnomes with cleaning equipment.
And when your dishes don't get very clean, that's because the gnomes partied a bit too hard the night before and just aren't up to their normal standards.
Hmm. That's also a great name for a punk band. Dishwasher Gnomes.
Going to trademark that right now.
[email protected]
Dishwater Gnomes
Cover songs of 90s alternative at x2.5 speed and an octave higher.
It's not the fact that the gnomes exist! It's how they're treated, down with big dishwasher!
No not punk. It would combine 80s one hit wonder songs with 2010s hipster southern folk.
Watching food cook is appetizing and also a necessity to know when it is done. Watching the slurry of fat, food rests and soap is not.
Then why do washing machines for clothes have windows?
Pretty colors spin round make fun watch
What are you doing with your clothes? Mine are rarely covered with fat, grease or food.
Then you ain't livin, pal.
They didn’t back in my day.
To check the progress before electric displays and fancy indicator lights. Windows came before those upgrades when machines were still dial controlled.
But they still have windows. Plus I think old fashioned top loading ones didn't actually.
Because people liked the feature. Look, I'm just saying WHY they added windows. That was the reason. I'm not saying it's a good reason or no one could figure things out before. They added them for that reason, people liked it, and it stuck around. Yet, there's always gonna be someone dragging out their 30 year old washer going "but mine is fine!". Never said it wasn't. Or someone pointing out that not all washers have a window even today. Cool. Nifty. But if yours does have one, that was the reason they got added.
That's what I still use and it does not. I have zero reason to know what's going on inside however because it literally operates on the equivalent of a kitchen egg timer. It's done when the dial says it's done. All controls are entirely mechanical. Washing machine is older than I am. I bet the damn thing is 50 years old.
Edit: Same as this one which seems to be a model from the 70s.
Because people liked the feature. Look, I'm just saying WHY they added windows. That was the reason. I'm not saying it's a good reason or no one could figure things out before. They added them for that reason, people liked it, and it stuck around. Yet, there's always gonna be someone dragging out their 30 year old washer going "but mine is fine!". Never said it wasn't. Or someone pointing out that not all washers have a window even today. Cool. Nifty. But if yours does have one, that was the reason they got added.
Congrats on having an ancient machine with no variable timing that finishes early and being able to look in tells you what step it's on easily at a glance instead of staring at your worn away knob. Good for you. Was it relevant at all to the discussion about why they added windows to machines that do?
Yes, it was relevant to the comment I replied to. It was an off topic segue that's common in the nature of what we call threaded discussions. That you feel you should copy and paste your response as if it's a personal attack to you or your argument is quite perplexing, but everybody's got their own way of seeing the world yeah?
Also, the thing is actually controlled by the knob's timer. There's no such thing as finishing early, the knob is what tells it to do a rinse cycle or whatever. You can set it at different points in order to make it do different things and it ticks away along it's cycle because of that. You hit switches to change the amount of water you use and select different start times based on the soiling and load size. It's pretty rad for a dinosaur, though you do have to make decisions that you might not have to make with an electronic high efficiency washer.
Mine has a window, but if you saw something through the window that made you want to intervene, there's precious little you could do
My tabletop dishwasher has a window. It looks fun in there. Splishy splashy.
Table.. top.. dishwasher? What sorcery is this?
Gaze upon my works and despair
That's so cute! But... I can't imagine what I could remove from my kitchen to make room for that. I'd love to add a rice cooker but there's no room for that either .
I have a tiny kitchen but also an appliance addiction. I have an entire folding table dedicated to all my beautiful machines for which I lack counter space, lol
When I lived in a studio with negligible counter space, the portable dishwasher sat atop one of those commercial grade wire rolling racks, which also doubled as shelves for my irresponsible amount of spices
Don't let lack of counter space stifle your maximalism. Just make more counter space lol
LOL agreed.
I actually got the cheap table tops from IKEA and some adjustable metal legs and I use a weird space where the extra long radiator is and made a counter top out of it.
Making more space is almost always a good idea. And there are lots of ways to do it.
Haha, I love that. Spices are another one of my weaknesses as well. And I'd like nothing more than to do something similar to what you did, actually.
Problem is my wife doesn't like the aesthetics of my solutions. I'm slowly wearing her down, tho. We went with something that she liked but wasn't as practical as it should've been. She's realized that it's not what we we were hoping for and has agreed to change it. Haven't found anything worthwhile at the obvious stores like Ikea and such so now I'm looking for alternatives.
happy furniture hunting! :]
Thanks! <3
The kind of thing you'd have in a small apartment where there is no space for a big one and you're single or a couple and don't have a lot of dishes to fill a big one with anyway.
My dishwasher has a window. It's a lot of water spraying everywhere.
Thats what big dishwasher wants you to think, they put the fake window to hide the dishwashing gnomes from the public eye. Wake up sheeple
OH FUCK
i bet it's mostly because it's fucking nasty in there.
Not in full swing but generally this shows you whats happening
https://youtu.be/jHP942Livy0?t=55
I instantly thought of that video myself.
goofy ah minds think alike
Oh my god, thank you for this channel. I have found a new thing to binge
The only thing I remember about Stewart Little, beyond him being a mouse, is that in the movie he gets trapped in the dishwasher and he is only saved because the family has a dishwasher with a glass front.
For some reason that scene has stuck in my head for 25 years. And I swear its because of their weird glass-front dishwasher that is just so out of place.
I'm sorry to say, but that was a washing machine...
https://youtu.be/YEdNAX9h_vI?feature=shared
You have unblocked a great memory of my youth, however. Thanks!
The dishwasher continues to remain a mystery then 🤔
My whole life is a lie!
I think it just might be because the seal around the glass would inevitably fail from constant thermal expansion during normal use, thus leaking all over the damn place.
Ovens have glass. And in my experience get much hotter than dishwashers.
Dishwashers need to be water-tight, ovens don't...
Ovens don't have a bunch of high pressure water sprayers in them. They just leak hot air at worst.
‘Just hot air’ is a bit of an understatement. Mine goes to 500°C during a cleaning cycle. It physically locks the door so you can’t open it when it does this. My dishwasher I can open at any time.
Fun fact you can hack a self-cleaning oven to use the hellfire temperature of 500 ° F to make good ass thin crust pizza!
you have to figure out how to bypass the door lock, use a pizza stone, and put the pizza as high up in the oven as possible. but you can get a damn good thin crust pizza with enough creative engineering and some experimentation.
recommended to try this project in winter as it dumps loads of heat in the house lol
How does that differ from current metal door?
Mainly brown water would be my guess, they an keep it to themselves.
It's useful to see the others, not sure how useful it would be to see inside a dishwasher. Could be fun though. Also probably is cheaper not to have it and could be better insulation.
Same reason fridges probably don't have windows even though that'd actually be handy. I once saw someone post about how their really expensive fridge actually has a window, but their mom put a curtain in front of it because seeing inside the fridge looked "messy". What a travesty
Washing mashines have a window though.
I guess it's for that reason. Dishwashers could have similar problems but they might have a lot less water in them at one time and with the type of doors they have you might not dump as much on the floor or something.
Dishwashers don't fill up - they just have a well at the bottom (below the height of the door) and they spray water over the dishes to rinse of the dirt.
Washing machines need to fill up and soak the clothes so that they get everywhere, not just the outer layer.
I was thinking that was the case. So makes sense why one would have a window and one doesn't, from "spilling water on the floor" sense.
No they don’t, that’s why front loaders use so much less water
— slaps the clothes into the puddle of water to clean
— to soak, lightly sprays on top while tumbling back and forth so they all get wet without ever being under water
Front loading washing machine doors are automatically locked during the wash cycle.
They often have an emergency release mechanism (pull string behind a cover or similar)
Some are. Modern ones definitely, older ones most likely. Not all though. Guess how I know...
Also I wonder what the situation was at the time they introduced those glass windows.
You can safely open a dishwasher at any time.
Not true if I do it in the middle of a program my wife will beat my ass
My dishwasher can be opened at any time. The sprays stop instantly and the small amount of water can just sit there
My front loading washer also has a small amount of water that seems like it would just sit there if I could open the door. However the door is locked whenever it is spinning
That's a clothes washer, not a dish washer
Yes, but connecting to your statement, is it useful to see inside?
Btw, why do they have one?
Edit: Kusimulkku answered that nicely.
Not all clothes washers have a window,. though it is more common than on dish washers. No it's not that useful.
Only side loading ones. You don't need a window for top loading ones and none have it.
🤦♂️
modern top loading washers have windows. I've seen dozens of them
You might be interested in MinuteFood's video on dishwashers. No clear viewing panel, but she stuck a GoPro in one. https://youtu.be/_haQLmfoWxI?si=6g3S7tix70bDdPhZ
I remember Codename: Kids Next Door had an entire episode about what goes on inside a dishwasher.
Ah, found it! https://knd.fandom.com/wiki/Operation:_R.E.C.R.U.I.T.
We have a counter top dishwasher. It has a window. It’s not that interesting though.
Yup, was coming to comment the same. Mine has one too, it’s just not very interesting or even necessary to see.
I'd assume it isn't see through because you load it up with dirty dishes that sit for days before you run it. No one wants to spend days staring at the crusty spoon meemaw dipped in the peanut butter and licked like an ice cream cone before the wash is finally run
who the fuck lets dirty dishes sit in there for days lol
I have twelve dinner plates. Often I'll use two a day (my partner doesn't share my allergies or diet and mostly uses bowls)
We have many hot drink mugs
We have twelve sets of cutlery
The dishwasher runs when we run out of clean [plates|cups|cutlery] that is weekly or less often
Modern dishwashers can easily clean tons of crust. That's why it takes them so long. As long as bigger chunks are gone and you clean the trap you are fine.
People who don't make a lot of dirty dishes? Running a dishwasher that is not full wastes water and energy. When I was single I would only run the dishwasher twice a week or so.
To show what a dishwasher does, they built one with a large window on the side for childrens television ("Sendung mit der Maus", German public TV Station ARD). Quite interesting and informative.
I guess you mean this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2X-gwfX4aA
Bonus video: Your dishwasher is better than you think
Exactly that one. Thanks.
Mine has one, it's cool
Can you send a picture? I've truly never seen one
I miss pics or it didn't happen.
Which is kinda broken thanks to AI.
As long as Ai cannot count we can still use it
It's in storage now but here is a video of the same model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIkg06V3NHc
I can watch it go for a full cycle, especially at night when all the lights are out, it's like a light and water show.
Damn man! Really love the aesthetics for the entire washer.
Do you not realize you can just find pictures yourself? It would have taken you less time to do than to write that comment.
You must be great at parties. And my answer is no! A picture as someone knows it tells me more than some random ass google query.
But a good tip for you my friend, you can block people if you don't like what they say ;)
Do you not realize they know they can just find pictures themselves? It would have taken you less time to move along than to write that comment.
It might also have to do with the fact that a window is more expensive, but required for ovens and microwaves as food night burn otherwise, but usually there's no issue running a dishwasher longer than exactly required
It’s definitely not required for ovens. You can just open the oven. Source: previous oven (1950s vintage) didn’t have one.
Pretty useful though, and pretty important on microwaves too since you can’t safely open the [microwave] oven while it’s running.
You can open it but you every time you do, you lose heat, which has to be compensated for by the oven. A window makes the process much easier. There wouldn't really be measurable gains for a dishwasher
That person has never cooked a souffle.
How's it not safe to open the oven while running? Just don't touch anything without mitts and keep your face back.
They meant the microwave
Yes. Microwave is short for “microwave oven”. I thought it was clear from context but I guess not.
"It's the best idea I ever had!"
Exactly what I was thinking of. 30 Rock is one of the best TV comedies ever. The jokes-per-minute is unrivaled.
Shocked I had to scroll this far to find it.
God I fucking hate how they chose to punctuate/capitalize. What the actual fuck? Just use italics if you want to emphasize something, good lord.
Can you use italics on Twitter?
I guess it's a part of the Twitter Blue sub, but there are workarounds.
My point still stands 'This is a stupid fucking Way to emphasize things'.
yes, IT, reall,Y is.
Here's an idea you can have for free, manufacturers: air fryer window
Those do exist on the larger ones, they are also usually more expensive tho
I bet you it would be the most interesting to see out of all of these.
This video by Technology Connections has a few scenes where you can see one at work.
So amazing to me that this has got to be one of his most popular videos.
Like...this vid went viral as hell. People are passionate about dishwashers. And I get it. There's a lot of misinformation out there.
It's because the water is t o o w e t
I was going to say "Well, it needs to be sealed tight to keep the water in", then I remembered washing machines exist. Now I am questioning this too.