The remaining judges rule that the previous ruling was in error, the President says he was acting under the interpretation of the law at the time, everyone shakes hands and goes home.
For some reason I imagine shirtless ripped Biden walkinging into the supreme court champer ripping a cig and saying "nothing personal, this is just official presidential business." Slipping on some brass knucks and charging into a fray of bodies.
He doesn't even need to do it personally since no one can question his ability to pardon whoever does it. So he could order it or just ask "Won't someone rid me of these troublesome justices?"
Not possible in the way you think. First of all he wasn't being sued over student loan forgiveness the government was, generally speaking you can't sue the president.
Second the supreme court ruling is about criminal liability, that is/was a civil case.
And lastly of the 400 billion in student loan debt that order would have forgiven the Biden administration has managed to claw back something like 170 billion in loan forgiveness through other means.
Okay so in that case what Biden could do is go ahead and execute all of his political opponents and then if the lower court returns that the ruling of the supreme Court is unconstitutional than the new supreme Court can decide whether or not to uphold that.
To decide if the list of trumps illegal actions are considered official like social media posts. Now that the rule is set to protect anything official Biden only has to put it on white house stationary to make any action legal.
Biden should at least go full Office Space and move all of their desks to the basement of the Supreme Court building. Maybe pass an executive order where the justices all have to ride to work together on a special Supreme Court short bus. I'm fine if he keeps it petty but I just hope he does something to show how dumb of a ruling it is (but probably won't).
Article II Section 3 says the president shall take care to execute the laws faithfully. I do not see how a president could issue an official illegal order.
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Sure, but then there won't be any conservative judges left to let him off the hook for it.
Doesn't matter. He'll be dead before they're done litigating it.
We probably all will.
That's fine. Batman needs to break the Joker's neck, and then turn himself in with the body in tow.
The remaining judges rule that the previous ruling was in error, the President says he was acting under the interpretation of the law at the time, everyone shakes hands and goes home.
Literally how the law works so every SC decision doesn't set off a century's worth of lawsuits
The hero's arc
Worth
Unironically yes, and he could easily justify it as 'official business' as dealing with traitors too.
For some reason I imagine shirtless ripped Biden walkinging into the supreme court champer ripping a cig and saying "nothing personal, this is just official presidential business." Slipping on some brass knucks and charging into a fray of bodies.
He's more likely to slip on the waxed floor and shatter a hip.
I'm sure everything at SCOTUS is elderly proof.
Which is odd because it’s not at all what he would do.
What he will do is meekly protest this ruling, maybe say something like “I respect the ruling and the rights of the law” and continue to do nothing.
Be nice if he could fight fire with fire for once and show the right what they’re setting up.
"Presidential business, Jack"
Such cringe. The dude is barely conscious.
Not nearly as cringe as the MAGA idiots that have posters of Donald "Diaper" Trump looking like Rambo.
It's all extremely embarrassing.
You are indeed.
He needs to at least impale senators with the American flag.
https://youtu.be/W8imsr2WmEg?si=-AwvPodkhAWcyF3l
It sure would be a shame if certain justices scuba vacations happened to be hit with drone strikes
They shouldn't have driven near the exploding spatulas.
I think technically he could order someone with the legal authority to use lethal force to do that. So probably the NSA or CIA.
CIA "can't" operate within US soil.
Probably just get a military contractor to do it anyway
He doesn't even need to do it personally since no one can question his ability to pardon whoever does it. So he could order it or just ask "Won't someone rid me of these troublesome justices?"
DARK BRANDON ACTIVATED.
This type of cringe shit is beat only by QAnons posting about "the Kraken." Is "Dark Brandon" in the room right now?
It's a ridiculous self-depreciating meme. It's funny because it contrasts with Biden being old and frail.
QAnons actually believe their shit.
They believe it because it is exactly what they would do given the opportunity.
You think many Dems don’t treat it seriously?
You seriously think that there liberals that think "Dark Brandon" is real? Lol. Get out of here man....
Real? No I do not think they believe there is an alternative copy of Biden who actually does something.
What I believe is they think Biden is owning Trump and a huge bad arse.
You can say ass on the internet.
Simmer down there Karen. It's supposed to be funny. It's not supposed to be taken seriously.
He can forgive student loans anyway despite being sued.
Not possible in the way you think. First of all he wasn't being sued over student loan forgiveness the government was, generally speaking you can't sue the president.
Second the supreme court ruling is about criminal liability, that is/was a civil case.
And lastly of the 400 billion in student loan debt that order would have forgiven the Biden administration has managed to claw back something like 170 billion in loan forgiveness through other means.
“Other means” being what is directly inline with the unitary executive theory that conservatives have been pushing on you for decades.
JUST WAVE THE WAND is why people hate Obama.
They sent it back to a lower court so the actual details can be delayed and decided after the election.
So no, Biden can't. If trump wins he most certainly can.
Both sides
Okay so in that case what Biden could do is go ahead and execute all of his political opponents and then if the lower court returns that the ruling of the supreme Court is unconstitutional than the new supreme Court can decide whether or not to uphold that.
To decide if the list of trumps illegal actions are considered official like social media posts. Now that the rule is set to protect anything official Biden only has to put it on white house stationary to make any action legal.
Which consequentially defines what the president can do. SCOTUS did NOT give Biden permission to execute them.
Biden should at least go full Office Space and move all of their desks to the basement of the Supreme Court building. Maybe pass an executive order where the justices all have to ride to work together on a special Supreme Court short bus. I'm fine if he keeps it petty but I just hope he does something to show how dumb of a ruling it is (but probably won't).
This is a fine idea
This isn't really a shower thought. Its been shared and posted and thought by everyone everywhere ad nauseum in a fucking record short timeframe.
Don't you understand? Every post on Lemmy must be about this!
It still has to be an official act. I don't know how that works.
No one does. Roberts conveniently left out how he would determine what acts are "official" from his opinion.
Republican acts are official. Democrat acts are not official.
Article II Section 3 says the president shall take care to execute the laws faithfully. I do not see how a president could issue an official illegal order.
It doesn't matter. He cannot be found criminally liable now. The law does not apply to him. Fuck SCOTUS
He could have expanded the courts on day one of office.
All of this could have been avoided.
No he couldn't.
Can we agree that he can definitely use his mouth to say "I endorse doing something"?
Tbf people say this about a lot of things the Republicans do.
If only