I played Pokemon Red on an emulator on a night shift at work and it was a pretty awesome experience. I can't imagine the idea of live service games existing. I think there's something to be said about connectivity and discoverability but yeah man. Yeah.
I just don't understand how people can get so sucked into gacha games. All the art design, the game world, all the other stuff they try to use to camouflage the slot machine, none of that stuff works more than a few hours. Once you see the "seams" of the skinner box, once it becomes blindingly obvious there's nothing to find at the "end" of chasing higher DPS or whatever, why do people continue? It loses any sense of fun the moment it happens.
In a lot of people it presses a button in their brain. That button says "Fuck yeah!" at first. After a while it says "I need this to function" or "This is what I do because this is what I've always done". It takes effort to overcome the feeling of nothing when there was once something there.
all the other stuff they try to use to camouflage the slot machine
They get sucked in to it for the same reason people throw all their money away on real slot machines. Gambling addiction is real, and we all have our vices. IMO it should be more regulated.
i like Blue Archive for its story and music and I'd even spend a few bucks if I really wanted a special character, but not much. since I'm not into the other gachas I might just be a rare example of an enjoyer tho lol
Yeah, this is why I took a break from Arknights. It's a good game, but I can only manage so many dailies. I'd rather wait for Endfield to release, so I can play Factorio while rolling gacha
To expand on that, in live service games, there are daily high value quests that can usually be completed in 15 minutes. This is to provide a big incentive to log in every day and a low bar to get some great rewards. It's a habit-forming technique. But if you enjoy the game, it's an easy and quick way to get currency you'd otherwise have to buy.
Full time job where you pay money to the boss. God damn ppl wake the f up and do smh
We won’t carry civilization like this. It’s in our generation hands now but they are tied doing genshin dallies and minds busy gobbling shipping fanfics. hence the old fucks like Biden and trump ordering us around as they please
Only live service Game I play is Warframe. Has no daylies weeklies if you want. Then all I ever play are offline games mostly indies. Recently finished Blasphemous 2 and now I'm playing bloodstained ritual of the night
Yea I don't think they're too bad about it. A little of that stuff helps keep things interesting for players. I have tons of stuff in that game and I think I only spent about 20$ on plat a few years ago and even that wasn't really necessary with how easy it is to get stuff to sell other players. It really is a good player friendly F2p game.
I used to play Need for Speed: World back in the day, and it had a daily of its own where you'd get to collect some treasures scattered around a random district in the city; doing so would give you a random reward, and the longer you kept up a streak, the better said rewards would get.
I was a broke teenager at the time, and it was the only way I could get remotely good drops at the time, but it was really annoying to do so every day and eventually it made me feel like a slave to the game. I actually kinda felt liberated when the game shut down since it meant no longer having that responsibility, and I don't think I ever want to get into dailies again.
I don't go out into public much myself anymore, there's nothing for me to "do" outside of chores and errands. Most of my friend interactions are online or at a private residence over anything public.
Nothing better than breaking one of those cycles and realizing you're free.
China banning dailies seems good actually
I played Pokemon Red on an emulator on a night shift at work and it was a pretty awesome experience. I can't imagine the idea of live service games existing. I think there's something to be said about connectivity and discoverability but yeah man. Yeah.
Pokemon games are amazing to do while working.
It is one of the few games where you can literally pause at any second by tabbing away, since the game only progresses when receiving input.
In my experience it will just loop to a new one
Over the last year I went from Marvel Snap > DBZ Dokkan > Snap > Arknights > Snap > Dokkan again with a healthy smattering with OSRS mixed in.
I know that feeling. Though I went straight to my steam backlog so I traded one addiction for another.
That's usually how it goes. The trick is remembering the addiction trading isn't a one time event.
I hate live service games. They also seem to be all anyone ever talks about.
I just don't understand how people can get so sucked into gacha games. All the art design, the game world, all the other stuff they try to use to camouflage the slot machine, none of that stuff works more than a few hours. Once you see the "seams" of the skinner box, once it becomes blindingly obvious there's nothing to find at the "end" of chasing higher DPS or whatever, why do people continue? It loses any sense of fun the moment it happens.
Addiction isn't about fun.
It is about escaping.
In a lot of people it presses a button in their brain. That button says "Fuck yeah!" at first. After a while it says "I need this to function" or "This is what I do because this is what I've always done". It takes effort to overcome the feeling of nothing when there was once something there.
Yeah I tried Honkai Star Rail after seeing it pushed everywhere and I bounced off it hard. I guess my brain is just broken in different ways lol.
They get sucked in to it for the same reason people throw all their money away on real slot machines. Gambling addiction is real, and we all have our vices. IMO it should be more regulated.
Cute anime girls are cute.
I like anime girls and the games are fun, it's not that deep
i like Blue Archive for its story and music and I'd even spend a few bucks if I really wanted a special character, but not much. since I'm not into the other gachas I might just be a rare example of an enjoyer tho lol
They're paid to talk about it.
They are live services precisely so there is something to talk about, and therefore more people join, and existing players stay hooked by FOMO.
You my friend, are talking to the wrong people
Yo dawg, I heard you like skinner boxes...
How can people do so many at a time?
At most, i did the daily quests of 1 game
Addiction
Yeah it's a "dark" video game pattern. I hate that stuff so hard, I stopped enjoying wow when they did daily quests. It's not fun, just a chore.
I've tried to get into it, but this makes me glad I don't have the patience to get addicted to games.
My attention peters out pretty quickly unless I've got either constant novelty, amazing art, peerless vibes, or a moving story.
I've never done daily quests since they are just filler content to keep the ones with nothing better to do engaged.
I do the daily ffxiv dungeon rouletes since it's an excuse to do old content without feeling like you lost time, but not everyday and not all of them.
They are not there to keep players engaged tbh, they are there so that people that wants to do that content can find people to do it with.
Good rewards for it too. On a few month hiatus from ffxiv but the roulette system really is fantastic.
Well when you play that many shit games, of course you're gonna hate your life
That's a full workday of chores
Yeah, as if you didn't already have a real job full of chores to get on with
I do enough bullshit daylies offline already.
IRL dailies are the worst. They never have good rewards either.
Ouch. Yeah, same...
Masturbate once per day? How old is this guy, 70?
Likely teen.
That got more brutal the more I read. I truly feel sorry for them and I play DotA and LoL.
... why lol?
I lol too when I see that people still play Dota.
Look at Mr wakes up in the morning and brushes his teeth rubbing it in the rest of our faces.
I love how classic wow is tucked in there lmao
Yeah but that's just a solid 8h block, accurate haha.
Apart from just doing dailies instead of playing for fun, that sounds like a very tempting life style right now.
Yeah, this is why I took a break from Arknights. It's a good game, but I can only manage so many dailies. I'd rather wait for Endfield to release, so I can play Factorio while rolling gacha
Missing many cups of coffee.
Do you mean a 12 pack of beer?
Equally valid!
Both?!
Espresso martini?
Lol sadness speedrun - go! Can you beat my best time of 8 years??
Some people complain not bring able to work, and then grind "dailies" and other bulls####
Bro doing 5 min dailies is Genshin is definitely not as hard as working a job in roofing or deal with customers at Starbucks.
What's a dailie?
There are also rewards for daily login streaks where you get better rewards the longer the streak.
I could set records with my streaks
I record all my streaks.
With audio of course.
To expand on that, in live service games, there are daily high value quests that can usually be completed in 15 minutes. This is to provide a big incentive to log in every day and a low bar to get some great rewards. It's a habit-forming technique. But if you enjoy the game, it's an easy and quick way to get currency you'd otherwise have to buy.
Least lazy hexbear
I skip everything between make a coffee and eat dinner
I usually skip the coffee and the dinner 😳
What are you, like an adorable little frog on a cute little lily pad or something?
At that point I would skip turning on the PC and brushing your teeth.
Maybe skip sleep too
Damn.. that was depressing.
Full time job where you pay money to the boss. God damn ppl wake the f up and do smh
We won’t carry civilization like this. It’s in our generation hands now but they are tied doing genshin dallies and minds busy gobbling shipping fanfics. hence the old fucks like Biden and trump ordering us around as they please
Man, doing Star Rail dailies takes about five minutes. Why even mention it?
Only live service Game I play is Warframe. Has no daylies weeklies if you want. Then all I ever play are offline games mostly indies. Recently finished Blasphemous 2 and now I'm playing bloodstained ritual of the night
The sortie is kind of a daily?
Agreed. I love Warframe and I think they are really good at humane design. But they are not above dailies and gacha mechanics.
Yea I don't think they're too bad about it. A little of that stuff helps keep things interesting for players. I have tons of stuff in that game and I think I only spent about 20$ on plat a few years ago and even that wasn't really necessary with how easy it is to get stuff to sell other players. It really is a good player friendly F2p game.
Oof... About Princess Connect...
What the hell is a princess connect?
It was/is a mobile game that was published in the west by Crunchyroll. The EN server was shut down, though.
Fuck you and I'll see you tomorrow.
But anyway, sounds like you need some Animal Well in your life.
I used to play Need for Speed: World back in the day, and it had a daily of its own where you'd get to collect some treasures scattered around a random district in the city; doing so would give you a random reward, and the longer you kept up a streak, the better said rewards would get.
I was a broke teenager at the time, and it was the only way I could get remotely good drops at the time, but it was really annoying to do so every day and eventually it made me feel like a slave to the game. I actually kinda felt liberated when the game shut down since it meant no longer having that responsibility, and I don't think I ever want to get into dailies again.
I don't go out into public much myself anymore, there's nothing for me to "do" outside of chores and errands. Most of my friend interactions are online or at a private residence over anything public.