I mean it does, god wanted him to get shot twice and survive and then build a bulletproof popemobile to not get shot a third time.
God's will is a pretty ironclad argument as long as you don't really believe in free will, or at least believe that God is powerful enough to know how every decision will be made in spite of free will.
Did you hear the story of the man on the roof of his house when it was flooding? I think that was a west wing bit… God wants you to have a bulletproof vest.
ahem The deity he follows says that he should turn the other cheek and not only allow it to happen again, but to happily and freely provide the opportunity. You can still call him hypocritical.
To be fair, that was advice for nonviolent resistance against the state, in a context where slapping someone's other cheek presented social difficulties to the oppressor. In order to slap someone's other cheek you had to use your unclean left hand, disgracing yourself by vulgar behaviour, or use a forehand slap with your right hand, which implicitly acknowledges the victim as your social equal. Turning the other cheek is a great way to fuck with the Romans.
The New Testament is full of practical advice for anarchist Jews to use against the state.
I'd say the undignified part is sitting atop a family car in a custom made box that simultaneously looks like he's being exhibited to an alien species and he's about to get gunged by Dave Benson Phillips.
Sorry, I don't do "logical" when it comes to flippant remarks directed at pedophile apologists. Nothing about the Catholic church is "logical." Am I lashing out in anger? Yes. Is that anger misplaced? Frankly no, I don't think so.
On June 6, 2007, a German man tried to jump into Benedict XVI's uncovered popemobile as the pontiff began his general audience. The pope was not hurt and did not even appear to notice that the man had jumped over the protective barrier in the square and had grabbed onto the white Fiat popemobile as it passed. At least eight security officers were trailing the vehicle as it moved slowly through the square. They subsequently grabbed the man and wrestled him to the ground, before he was interrogated by Vatican police.
You're thinking of American Baptists and Evangelicals. Catholics are a little bit more practical, in general. Like protecting pedos, instead of ejecting them. Very practical.
If I was driving around in a Fiat Homer, I wouldn't worry too much about what people call it. Especially not if I was also wearing such a ridiculous hat..
I wish I could pull that hat off. You gotta actually live the pope life though. People can see through that shit too. “Why you wearing that hat? You ain’t no poper!”
I thought it was open on the sides because I guess one of the popes wanted real interaction or something. *Oh wait is the glass only halfway? Needs more jpeg.
The popemobile is also bullet proof, to... erm... supplement the power of prayer.
Usually I’d call someone like that a hypocrite, but considering he took two bullets… I understand why he wouldn’t want a repeat of that experience.
Weirdly “it’s gods will” doesn’t apply in this case.
I mean it does, god wanted him to get shot twice and survive and then build a bulletproof popemobile to not get shot a third time.
God's will is a pretty ironclad argument as long as you don't really believe in free will, or at least believe that God is powerful enough to know how every decision will be made in spite of free will.
"God works in mysterious ways"
God wanted a popemobile. Q.E.D.
What does God need with a
starshippopemobile?Quantum Electrodynamics
Quantum Erectile Dysfunction: I swear it's hard when you're not directly observing it.
To teach him that dignitaries on display are vulnerable to snipers
To make him holy
Probably for covering up all those pedophiles.
Also...he took two bullets, if his God wanted him dead he had the opportunity.
It's like the question of why wear a bulletproof vest if you're immortal, it's not like divine protection stops bullets from hurting.
So his god wanted him to be hurt, why then the popemobile? Why interfere with god's will?
Something something "God helps those who help themselves." Don't think too hard about the cognitive dissonance, they sure aren't going to.
Clearly it was god's will that he got a popemobile since that ended up happening
Did you hear the story of the man on the roof of his house when it was flooding? I think that was a west wing bit… God wants you to have a bulletproof vest.
That joke’s pretty much as old as time, with lots of versions.
And for those who don’t get the reference:
https://youtu.be/06dQaOZIcH0?si=6TX5aRn9PRbuf1kX
I mean, if He's all powerfull, he could stop them from hurting, or even have made them miss.
So not only did He want the pope shot, he wanted it to hurt.
Which leads to the other way around:
If an omnipotent God wants him shot again, then it will happen. No bullet proof vest or glass is going to stop God's will. So why bother?
ahem The deity he follows says that he should turn the other cheek and not only allow it to happen again, but to happily and freely provide the opportunity. You can still call him hypocritical.
To be fair, that was advice for nonviolent resistance against the state, in a context where slapping someone's other cheek presented social difficulties to the oppressor. In order to slap someone's other cheek you had to use your unclean left hand, disgracing yourself by vulgar behaviour, or use a forehand slap with your right hand, which implicitly acknowledges the victim as your social equal. Turning the other cheek is a great way to fuck with the Romans.
The New Testament is full of practical advice for anarchist Jews to use against the state.
Why didn't his god protect him?
Was it the kiddie fiddling?
Clearly he did, he didn't die from those shots did he
So god called him twice and he didn't answer.
Maybe someone prayed for it to be bullet proof and Big Papa had no say in it?
God helps those who help themselves! (In other words, he does nothing.)
Some men think they can outsmart me. Maybe. sniff Maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart boolet.
tbf some recent-ish Pope got shot in the ribs, so it's probably to prevent that happening again
You're definitely being insufferable right.
When a religious person sees his logic used against himself.
get fuckt
Nah, that was definitely a case of your typical Insufferable Internet Atheist.
Who said I was religious?
I'd say the undignified part is sitting atop a family car in a custom made box that simultaneously looks like he's being exhibited to an alien species and he's about to get gunged by Dave Benson Phillips.
Every time I hear the term "popemobile" I think of the 1960's Adam West Batman.
"Quick, Pope Man! To the Popemobile!"
Transitory sound effect with spinning cross swipe
Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na POPE MAN!
His villains would be the The Reddit Atheist, and anti-pedophile activists.
I think of Ace and Gary's penismobile from Ambiguously Gay Duo
Gay slurs are perfectly dignified, though. It's definitely the car that cost him respect. (I know, different pope. Still, though.)
Still what? You're judging one person on the statements of a completely different person. How is that logical?
Sorry, I don't do "logical" when it comes to flippant remarks directed at pedophile apologists. Nothing about the Catholic church is "logical." Am I lashing out in anger? Yes. Is that anger misplaced? Frankly no, I don't think so.
you’re not alone in this, my friend
I mean they claim to communicate directly with God so they can be judged with similar logic
Ok, lets call it the Pedomobile. We can get Pedobear bumper stickers for it.
Same shit different pile.
i wanna know how the natively spanish-speaking pope learned the word "frociaggini". like does anyone that's not gay say that???
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popemobile
"Well, it's all bullshit, but as long as I'm in power, you have nothing to worry about" -every religious leader ever
Do you remember any source for Hitchens on that, like a book or speaking event? I’d enjoy hearing more about that specifically.
You're thinking of American Baptists and Evangelicals. Catholics are a little bit more practical, in general. Like protecting pedos, instead of ejecting them. Very practical.
It was comparable to a PT Cruiser with an aquarium botched on. One could confuse it as part of a mobile dog wash fleet.
If I was driving around in a Fiat Homer, I wouldn't worry too much about what people call it. Especially not if I was also wearing such a ridiculous hat..
I wish I could pull that hat off. You gotta actually live the pope life though. People can see through that shit too. “Why you wearing that hat? You ain’t no poper!”
People trying to pull the Pope's hat off is one of the reasons why he rides around in the Popemobile.
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Is this the dignified option he wants? It's certainly accurate.
I thought it was open on the sides because I guess one of the popes wanted real interaction or something. *Oh wait is the glass only halfway? Needs more jpeg.
looks to me like its half full of water, best for moisturizing lizard skin.
If he wanted it to be dignified then he should have put a lot more thought into its design.
DopeMobile..
Mr Show had an awesome opening sketch regarding the popemobile back in the day. They were way ahead of their time.
Just admit that you've always called this the Poopmobile.
The other applicable four letter word with P does not seem to make for a better P...-mobile