There is the tale (which has a grain of truth in it.) of how vaccination from chickenpox came to be via milkmaids and cowpox, so maybe folks think bird flu will work the same?
Assuming you mean viral load referring to mucuses or blood of the infected. Given that the human influenza virus' entry requires the viral surface proteins (hemagglutinin (HA)) to bind to acids present on respiratory epithelial cells along with cleavage of HA by host cell proteases (enzymes that breakdown proteins) to facilitate membrane fusion. These trypsin-like proteases are mainly expressed in airway tissues, restricting influenza viral tissue response to the respiratory tract. I would say it would be highly unlikely for influenza viral replication existing in an environment lacking this crucial interaction let alone a low-pH environment like the GI tract
You don't swallow all of the milk and thus not all of the virus particles. There's always some residue that can then start to infect you just as if you inhaled the virus.
Millenia of storytelling: These are things that can happen, let's make sharing information fun.
History: Look at all this misery. Look at it.
Post-covid: Ok boys, we gave it a go. Good job overall, but we need to do better next time. Let's hit the showers then the replays to see what we can do better.
Us: Why is this happening? Who did this to me? Because I've been kept in the dark I will decide how to handle this new situation and spread the word.
That's not why raw milk is purchased, and gizmodo guy is truly an idiot.
Most of the pastuerized milk being sold is also processed in other ways, for example it is homogenised with milk powder to bring fat content to a standardized level.
Raw milk = non-homogenised milk = pure milk/natural milk
And raw milk is boiled and then cooled (superior to pasturisation) in domestic setting, before consumption.
It’s sad that bACoN means more to people than the very lives of their loved ones on top of all the moral atrocities inherent in animal ag.
The top reason I don’t have hope for the future. People don’t care if the world burns and disease runs rampant if it means they get their tendies right now.
I happen to think Militant Vegans should be eaten or composted but even I will agree that your first sentence is broadly correct. Industrialized agriculture and CAFO operations are to blame for this so you can generally say that consuming animal products is to blame.
Your second point is highly speculative and not based on any factual evidence. The speculated worst case scenario seems to be maybe 20x COVID-19, or 140 million worldwide.
As a vegan, I should think you'd celebrate even that high rate of attrition. It would mean, overall, far fewer delicious animals being consumed.
That heating food above 104–118 °F (40–48 °C) degrades enzymes in raw food that aid digestion, when in fact enzymes in food play no significant role in the digestive process, prior to being digested themselves.
That raw foods have higher nutrient values than foods that have been cooked, when in fact cooking affects nutrient contents variably – depending on the plant food and cooking method – and may actually increase availability of fat-based nutrients, such as vitamin E and beta-carotene.
That foods cooked at high temperatures, especially meat, may contain harmful toxins, including trans fatty acids produced by heating oil, acrylamide produced by frying, advanced glycation end products (AGEs), and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons. Not all cooked food contains harmful chemicals, and a diet containing a mix of cooked and raw food is normal. According to the American Cancer Society, it is not clear as of 2019 whether acrylamide consumption affects the risk of cancer. Public health authorities recommend reducing consumption of overly cooked starchy foods or meats.
Health effects
A raw food diet is likely to impair the development of children and infants. Care is required in planning a raw vegan diet, especially for children, as there may not be enough vitamin B12, vitamin D, and calories for a growing child on a totally raw vegan diet.
Food poisoning is a health risk for all people eating raw foods, and increased demand for raw foods is associated with greater incidence of foodborne illness,especially for raw meat, fish, and shellfish. Outbreaks of gastroenteritis among consumers of raw and undercooked animal products (including smoked, pickled or dried animal products) are well-documented, and include raw meat, raw organ meat, raw fish (whether ocean-going or freshwater), shellfish, raw milk and products made from raw milk, and raw eggs.
One review stated that "Many raw foods are toxic and only become safe after they have been cooked. Some raw foods contain substances that destroy vitamins, interfere with digestive enzymes or damage the walls of the intestine. Raw meat can be contaminated with bacteria which would be destroyed by cooking; raw fish can contain substances that interfere with vitamin B1 (anti-thiaminases)"
I don't speak for all of lemmy, but yeah I think I am going to hate on the raw food movement
This isn't hating on raw food movement, this is like having a water main break and being advised to boil and/or filter water before drinking it.
A lot of dairy cows are infected with a new virus. Raw/unpasteurized milk has a greater chance if transmission to those consuming it. Recommended to refrain from consuming raw milk until there is no longer such a high rate of infection...
So... they think it will... vaccinate them?
Truly it boggles the mind.
There is the tale (which has a grain of truth in it.) of how vaccination from chickenpox came to be via milkmaids and cowpox, so maybe folks think bird flu will work the same?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3758677/
We're playing Plague Inc on easy mode.
"Sick people given hugs"
Papa nurgle smiles upon mankind, i guess.
MAGA tards: ivermectin on one hand, industrial raw milk in the other
Serious question, does consuming a virus give a similar viral load as inhaling an equal amount?
Assuming you mean viral load referring to mucuses or blood of the infected. Given that the human influenza virus' entry requires the viral surface proteins (hemagglutinin (HA)) to bind to acids present on respiratory epithelial cells along with cleavage of HA by host cell proteases (enzymes that breakdown proteins) to facilitate membrane fusion. These trypsin-like proteases are mainly expressed in airway tissues, restricting influenza viral tissue response to the respiratory tract. I would say it would be highly unlikely for influenza viral replication existing in an environment lacking this crucial interaction let alone a low-pH environment like the GI tract
But probably not a good idea anyway?
That's a fascinating question. I'd love to hear from an actual epidemiologist.
You don't swallow all of the milk and thus not all of the virus particles. There's always some residue that can then start to infect you just as if you inhaled the virus.
My milkshake brings all the boys to graveyard
And they’re like, it’s better than SARS.
I used to think if these people did the dumb things they would die before having any impact on the rest of us.
Still unlikely to develop human to human transmission this way.
It's truly our way.
Millenia of storytelling: These are things that can happen, let's make sharing information fun.
History: Look at all this misery. Look at it.
Post-covid: Ok boys, we gave it a go. Good job overall, but we need to do better next time. Let's hit the showers then the replays to see what we can do better.
Us: Why is this happening? Who did this to me? Because I've been kept in the dark I will decide how to handle this new situation and spread the word.
I got bad news folks.
https://midwest.social/post/12185986
I say we let natural selection take its course
Plz don't, I work retail.
Plz don’t, I’m a human who has to encounter these people.
Also, I work in healthcare please god no
I mean, it may give 'em immunity. Just not how they think it should (although I'm not sure if they can think at all) :D
Natural selection:
It can be passed from mammary glands? That's.... Oh it must be on the skin and getting mixed into the product...
Good news! The mortality rate is so high it's unlikely to spread as far as COVID!
Whatever this is refuses to load for me
I get that a lot and have to click the "hd" full version button for it to load
That's not why raw milk is purchased, and gizmodo guy is truly an idiot.
Most of the pastuerized milk being sold is also processed in other ways, for example it is homogenised with milk powder to bring fat content to a standardized level.
Raw milk = non-homogenised milk = pure milk/natural milk
And raw milk is boiled and then cooled (superior to pasturisation) in domestic setting, before consumption.
At least you are straightforward with your username.
It’s sad that bACoN means more to people than the very lives of their loved ones on top of all the moral atrocities inherent in animal ag.
The top reason I don’t have hope for the future. People don’t care if the world burns and disease runs rampant if it means they get their tendies right now.
I happen to think Militant Vegans should be eaten or composted but even I will agree that your first sentence is broadly correct. Industrialized agriculture and CAFO operations are to blame for this so you can generally say that consuming animal products is to blame.
Your second point is highly speculative and not based on any factual evidence. The speculated worst case scenario seems to be maybe 20x COVID-19, or 140 million worldwide.
As a vegan, I should think you'd celebrate even that high rate of attrition. It would mean, overall, far fewer delicious animals being consumed.
Lemmy hating on the raw food movement now?
I don't speak for all of lemmy, but yeah I think I am going to hate on the raw food movement
This isn't hating on raw food movement, this is like having a water main break and being advised to boil and/or filter water before drinking it.
A lot of dairy cows are infected with a new virus. Raw/unpasteurized milk has a greater chance if transmission to those consuming it. Recommended to refrain from consuming raw milk until there is no longer such a high rate of infection...
I've been hating on the raw food movement for much longer than lemmy even existed. Drinking raw milk is especially stupid.