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It’s weird how when the Department of Transportation is using the bike lane, they give themselves an entire car lane for protection.
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View original on lemmy.mlIt’s weird how when the Department of Transportation is using the bike lane, they give themselves an entire car lane for protection.
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This about the dumbest post I've seen today. How dare these people exercise safety so that they can install the fucking safety barriers that you want for the bike lanes. Holy shit, take a step back and get a sense of reality.
The point is that the teeny little barriers they're installing which are supposedly adequate for cyclists' safety are far less protection than the massive buffer they have as protection while installing them.
It's not about blaming the people doing the installation, it's about highlighting the government's hypocrisy when it comes to cyclist safety.
I get the point. It's just a shitty point. We can agree that the bike lane is not sufficiently safe, and you claim that those barriers are inadequate, but comparing the safety of bikers in the bike lane vs workers literally working in the car lane, and somehow correlating them shutting down that lane as hypocrisy is a shit argument. Apples and oranges.
The cyclists deserve the same buffer the workers have.
I agree, if cyclists are actively do construction work that requires them to be in the car lane, they should close the lane off. It would be absurd to suggest otherwise.
The amount of space between the worker in the street and the cones is much wider than the space afforded by the barriers they are installing.
Yea, because they're doing construction in the car lane. I suppose they maybe didn't need the whole lane closed. They could have just closed half of it, because that makes sense. Comparing construction workers camping in the road to cyclists riding along side it is why this is such a shit argument.
Look up the size of bike lanes in Denmark ... we can do so much better! You're brainwashed into thinking this little sliver of space is enough protection. And also, these are almost certainly activists and not construction workers, so I'm not upset at them, they're placing the protective barriers alongside the existing bike lane because that's way more possible than surreptitiously creating barriers taking up any part of the driving lane.
You are not understanding. This has nothing to do with whether bicycle lanes are big enough, or if those are licensed construction workers. All that matter is that there are people doing construction work that overflows into the car lane, and the only sane thing to do is close the whole lane. My response is entirely in response to what OP posted and captioned. I do think that bike lanes could be wider and better protected, but that's not what this post is saying.
🙄 they could have closed half a lane, you see that all the time. They felt the need to have extra space, just as the cyclists feel when riding in the bike lane. If you want to say that bike lanes could be wider, just say that... the debate bro energy doesn't lead to anything
It's fuck cars on ml, and you're expecting reality?
You know how there's dangerous assholes on the road that disobey all the rules, cause incidents, yell at other users, etc, just generally get around the place with zero regard for others and the idea that they're always in the right?
Yep. Those people. Whether they're in a car or on a bike makes zero difference. Everyone would love to see those people off the roads.
This post ooooozes that entitlement, rage, and disregard for anyone else. How else could someone be like this if not a complete asshole?
Butt hurt much?
Why didnt they barricade the car lane off and use that to install the bike barrier lane protectors from ? Use stop / go personell so cars can use the other lane.
They've blocked the entire cycle lane with what looks like a compressor up ahead as well (presumably to supply a pneumatic drill for the bolts)
Or here's an idea, install concrete barricades from the back of a truck with a crane that actually project cyclists from being murdered.
That is an idea, but it has nothing to do with this post. You've taken my criticism of OP and spun it into something completely different. The post isn't about the safety of the bike lane. It's about the supposed hypocrisy of closing down the car lane while doing construction work in it. It's asinine. You can piss and moan about the barriers not being enough, but regardless of the device being installed, closing off that section of the car lane (and bike lane for that matter) is the only prudent thing to do for the safety of those workers.
Please go back to Facebook, YouTube comments, or even Reddit with this petulant behavior.
No one here wants this sort of low quality, personally, attacking, bratty behavior in their discussions.
Look at the picture you shared. They are using the bike lane. They are also using the car lane. Obviously they need to block both or they would be idiots looking to get run over.
Are you suggesting they pylon off half a lane?
What's this subs rule on using the R word?
I don't think people around here do like roads very much
Actually, they should: they should move the bike lane over during construction instead of closing it entirely.
Republican?
I'm assuming these people aren't official DoT workers, but a collective of citizens clandestinely installing cycling safety infrastructure. Could be wrong, just my immediate assumption.
Yeah, the Crocs really seal the deal.
Omg I missed that. Nice spot
yeah I can't imagine someone who does this for a job would carry a claw hammer. or that it would take so many people to bolt down each pylon. like I dunno maybe one or 2 to drill the holes, one to install and bond the studs, one to bolt the pylons down, and a traffic guy in each direction.
The concrete anchors are often ones you tap in first with the hammer to first set them into place. Then, you crank the bolt down, which drives out the anchor into the surrounding material. The hammer is just to get it started and fully down the bore hole.
You might also use it to align the pylon. It's easier to tap the base gently to move it a few cm into place over the holes than to pick the whole pylon up and down while aligning it.
oh I've never seen that kind before
Good call
How many people do you need to install the poles?
They seem to have four people working on poles, two more prepping/measuring, one person providing assistance between groups and one other person providing traffic safety and moving the generator.
Certainly on person could install these poles but it wouldn't be as safe and not nearly as quick.
Oh my god, a voice of reason. This is the fuck cars subreddit, why are people recommending solo unauthorised work on a public road. Traffic control and enough people to be noticed is essential for road work. Or do it at 3am.
Three fewer than if you were installing Austrians.
This feels like a reference I'm not German enough to understand.
That many people would sure help if you have two miles off poles to install.
Those people are clearly in the car lane. This is some 1984 level shit right here "just ignore the picture and repeat the narrative."
So uh, is that traffic light in the middle of the cycling lane?
Im blocking this community. Not because i love cars but because this is too extreme and manipulative
Ok
Lol too extreme so he's blocking. Have you not heard of the less-extreme downvote option?
Buh bye! 😘
Later, tater
Cool story. Now go sit down please.
Very patriarchal language. Red flag
No it isn't.