They don't need to do it, their post wont get deleted. It will only not get promoted by the platform, it can still be shared and viewed directly by users.
I like to think of myself as pretty supportive, but is there really any evidence that specifically reading the word "trauma" is traumatic? And if so, is the removal of the "U" really a solution to that?
Because it seems like asterixing one letter is more of a performative measure to signify ones support for the overall cause rather than an actually means to reduce suffering.
How close can the "U" be before it starts to upset someone?
"Tra u ma"
Uuuuuuuuuuuuu
Tra ma
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I don't believe that someone who is affected by the word "trauma" would view the above examples with a complete non-reaction because the U is vaguely obfuscated.
Like, we can agree that the asterix is just a display of consideration to someone, rather than an actually effective measure, right?
It's actually counterproductive! People who want to screen stuff about abuse from their internet experience can set up filters. Those filters are broken when you censor the relevant words!
An alternative explanation is that sites like TikT*k are trying to please advertisers by reducing coverage of videos that talk about sensitive topics like trauma, suicide, and death, and that behaviour has been blindly copied by zoomers who are getting their primary internet exposure from Tiktok.
I agree with the other three, but this is wrong about “narcissists”. “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” is a diagnosis, but calling someone a “narcissist” isn’t. That’s just a description of someone’s personality. It’s much older than the diagnosis, going back to the Greek myth of Narcissus. The diagnosis doesn’t get to co-opt the much older usage.
According to my licensed psychiatrist, trauma is anything hurtful or harmful that impacts your behavior or patterns of thinking. The clinical term is actually more broad than the general public conception of the word.
It's the wojack/Chad meme of "your side is represented as crying wojack, my side is represented with chiseled Chad version, therefore I win"
And the "umm akshyully this is what gaslighting REALLY is" just makes me think someone made this whole thing just to try and prove to another person they aren't a gaslighting narcissist who doesn't believe someone has ptsd and has lasting issues stemming from it.
Besides, There doesn't have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.
Be honest with yourself, but don’t glorify victimhood. Being a victim fucking sucks. It’s not something to aspire to. I have my issues, but I know I’m not a victim.
I’ve been blessed not to have to deal with abuse the way others have. I don’t want to cheapen what they went through by classifying something unpleasant I went through in personal interactions as actual abuse or trauma.
It's so difficult to try and have this nuanced take with people. I'm NOT trivializing or saying you should "just suck it up " I'm suggesting that you treat mental illness like an illness: Seek treatment, follow professional advice, and be honest with yourself and the professionals you're seeing. If I broke my leg, but refused to get a cast because I felt it was really a problem with my arm, while lying to every doctor I meet about what happened, people would get very sick of my nonsense in short order.
Someone answering above reminded me a couple of big online platforms will limit your traffic if your content contains certain words from an arbitrary list. So they probably self-censored to make sure the content would be seen.
Schizophrenic pop - hearing voices or seeing people and things that aren't real. Makes you do crazy stuff sometimes.
Schizophrenic from my Psych101 lecture - a disorder that includes marked changes in behavior, mood, affect, and perception. Sufferers question reality, may feel persecuted, and experience sensory simulation that has no external cause. Genetic component coupled with trauma (stress-diathesis model), with an extremely high comorbidity of suicide attempts, depression, and self harm.
Antisocial pop - going against the grain, not wanting to hang out with people, being misanthropic. "Oh jeeze, i'm just so antisocial lately... maybe I'll party some other time, guys."
Antisocial personality disorder 101 - personlality disorder involving behavior that is typically not only interpersonally disruptive, but is often actively working against the benefit of others. Often accompanied by blunted capacity for empathy for others. Strong genetic component, may express after traumatic childhood experience or an abusive upbringing. Interestingly, has a high comorbidity for substance abuse and other potentially self-destructive behaviors. AKA sociopathy. Early.onset, typically pre-adolescence at latest for diagnosis. Otherwise, it's considered something akin to adolescent outburst, where it's expected to go away after some time. Early onset prognosis is worse.
Psychopathy pop - Cletus Cassidy, Michael Myers, Mrs. Voorhees, the Driller Killer, etc.
See also "psycho"
Psychopathy 101 - similar to ASPD above, but not so much the self-destructive behaviors. Couples antisocial behaviors with complete lack of care or remorse for others, along with a superficial charm (refer back to Learning & Behavior, and social psych notes... charm is a skill!) to manipulate others into doing what they want. Often manifests as "conduct disorder" in kids, but diagnosis is difficult, as there is little objective criteria to go on. The very definition of Psychopathy is hard to nail down, given its broad symptom list, overlap with other diagnoses, and disagreement among professionals.
"Psycho" is often misused, as it actually refers to psychosis, which is a detachment from reality in which the sufferer can't tell what is and isn't real. Causes considerable distress and may lead to dangerous or self-injurious behaviors.
On the pop front, I'll just point add there was also a widespread misconception for a very long time (mostly in the past now I think, but still out there) that schizophrenia was the same as dissociative identity disorder.
Tangentially related, "Cultural Appropriation" was a an anthropological/historian term that meant defining and controlling another's culture. A good example is the English making it illegal for Scots to wear kilts in the 1700s. It is not personally using a hairstyle associated with another group despite what the term sounds like. The people that use that meaning literally culturally appropriated the term from the original group, under the real meaning of the term. People trying to tell spanish speakers that they are "Latinx" is another example of the original meaning.
Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others.
You are correct. The only truly incorrectly defined word in the list is the “pop psychology” form of “trauma”, which looks like it was just made up for the sake of the meme. “Gaslighting” is correct on both sides, but the two in the middle are actually being paired with different forms of the same word, so the definition is inherently different. Also, the definitions on the left are coming from a learner’s dictionary so they come across as stupid next to advanced definitions.
Not really. I've seen a lot of people overuse "trauma" that way. I'm biased, as I teach psych, but there really is an almost silly amount of misuse of terms that way. Hell, that Lind of language is misused in online communities all the time, by people trying to punch-up their own actually mundane boring lives to make it sound like they've "been through" more than they have.
Look this is an art imitating life imitating art discussion that I don't think its going to go anywhere, I'm just saying, on the one hand I appreciate the post trying to clarify things for people misusing these terms but on the other hand I don't think it's being honest with how they're being misused.
If someone doesn't lie to you and pretend it's not a lie, that can still be the start of Gaslighting and should be called out as quickly as possible so people know they can't do that.
That's not a misuse or problem that needs to be corrected just because it's not exactly what happened in a 1930s movie. Which is by the way still pop-culture not "actual" psychology.
A psychologist didn't come up with it, an artist/writer did. Science doesn't get to claim all authority all the time and humanity should be relearning the fact that art and culture DOES produce knowledge.
Posts like this, the dismissal of cultural or "pop" phenomena as less authoritive is part of why we don't - that's my problem with it, okay?
Why do they censor 'aubsive'?
Because two of the big platforms might cut off your traffic for using any of a long list of arbitrary words.
It's pretty fucking disgusting to self censor inoffensive language because an app might stop showing your memes to other mouthbreathers.
Or disgusting that algorithms with arbitrary rules comtrol so much of what so many people see.
It's disgusting to need to do it. I won't blame poster/commenter for doing it so that their shit doesn't get deleted.
They don't need to do it, their post wont get deleted. It will only not get promoted by the platform, it can still be shared and viewed directly by users.
not only that, but by using munged language like that you're effectively making peoples blocklists on trigger words utterly fucking useless.
**** ********* *** ********?
**** ******* ******** *******!
**** ******* ***.
Jeez, right in the *********? Brutal.
** shreds, *** ***?
Act*al psychology
On some platforms OCR reads it and filters.
Fuck th*se pl*tforms, th*n.
Because they're annoying.
You mean anno*ing?
It's a b*d word
I was looking for the notes on ab* for a while before I realized. It really seems weird
Probably tangentially related to June 4, 1989.
Well, at least people were saved from terrible tra*ma by cl*verly h*ding the "u" in "ab*sive". Can't tell that's what it says at all...
Trigger warning: the word tra*ma
I like to think of myself as pretty supportive, but is there really any evidence that specifically reading the word "trauma" is traumatic? And if so, is the removal of the "U" really a solution to that?
Because it seems like asterixing one letter is more of a performative measure to signify ones support for the overall cause rather than an actually means to reduce suffering.
How close can the "U" be before it starts to upset someone?
"Tra u ma"
Uuuuuuuuuuuuu Tra ma Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I don't believe that someone who is affected by the word "trauma" would view the above examples with a complete non-reaction because the U is vaguely obfuscated.
Like, we can agree that the asterix is just a display of consideration to someone, rather than an actually effective measure, right?
It's actually counterproductive! People who want to screen stuff about abuse from their internet experience can set up filters. Those filters are broken when you censor the relevant words!
Yeah but does that matter if using the asterisk helps those not the victim of abuse feel better about their day? They are the real victims 🤣
If the word triggers some symptom, then why would that same word, "hidden" by a trick that wouldn't faze a six-year-old, be any less harmful?
It wouldn't. You may want to reread my comment.
::: spoiler
Trauma
:::
An alternative explanation is that sites like TikT*k are trying to please advertisers by reducing coverage of videos that talk about sensitive topics like trauma, suicide, and death, and that behaviour has been blindly copied by zoomers who are getting their primary internet exposure from Tiktok.
I see you don't feel the need to double-censor "w"
Reading ab*sive is more traumatic
I d*n't kn*w wh*t y*u're t*lk*ng abo*t*** *** * ***** cunt *** ****!
I agree with the other three, but this is wrong about “narcissists”. “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” is a diagnosis, but calling someone a “narcissist” isn’t. That’s just a description of someone’s personality. It’s much older than the diagnosis, going back to the Greek myth of Narcissus. The diagnosis doesn’t get to co-opt the much older usage.
Yeah it's just the higher stage of selfishness. You can be selfish, egoistic, etc. Then you reach Narcissus level, or worst, the pond/lake level.
Wow that's exactly what a pond/laker would say
According to my licensed psychiatrist, trauma is anything hurtful or harmful that impacts your behavior or patterns of thinking. The clinical term is actually more broad than the general public conception of the word.
even in medical terms (not a doctor) getting a tooth pulled or scraping your knee is trauma.
For all people posture that "the internet overreacts" they also overreact to the so-called overreaction
That's physical trauma though.
Ab*sive
It's the wojack/Chad meme of "your side is represented as crying wojack, my side is represented with chiseled Chad version, therefore I win"
And the "umm akshyully this is what gaslighting REALLY is" just makes me think someone made this whole thing just to try and prove to another person they aren't a gaslighting narcissist who doesn't believe someone has ptsd and has lasting issues stemming from it.
Besides, There doesn't have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.
Is this coolguide gaslighting the definition of "gaslighting"?
100% agree.
Be honest with yourself, but don’t glorify victimhood. Being a victim fucking sucks. It’s not something to aspire to. I have my issues, but I know I’m not a victim.
I’ve been blessed not to have to deal with abuse the way others have. I don’t want to cheapen what they went through by classifying something unpleasant I went through in personal interactions as actual abuse or trauma.
It's so difficult to try and have this nuanced take with people. I'm NOT trivializing or saying you should "just suck it up " I'm suggesting that you treat mental illness like an illness: Seek treatment, follow professional advice, and be honest with yourself and the professionals you're seeing. If I broke my leg, but refused to get a cast because I felt it was really a problem with my arm, while lying to every doctor I meet about what happened, people would get very sick of my nonsense in short order.
Why does it censor "abusive?"
Yeah, if they're gonna do that, they need to censor trigger and trauma too. Better throw in "flashbacks*, PTSD, and OCD just to be safe.
Abrasive*
Some SEO thing for avoid to be shadowed/banned on some platform which use OCR.
I wondered as well. Doesn't make sense (to me).
Someone answering above reminded me a couple of big online platforms will limit your traffic if your content contains certain words from an arbitrary list. So they probably self-censored to make sure the content would be seen.
Typing abusive is a trigger for them.
snowf**ks
I need to start calling people snowfucks.
To trigger
Why the hell did you censor abuse?
According to the APA, Gaslighting is a colloquialism, not a real psychological term.
Dear Americans: Psychotic doesn't mean what you think it means. Stop using it please.
Yeah it does, you sound psychotic.
Stop gaslighting me you narcissist, or I'll report you for ab*se!
You just triggered my trauma of when I was gaslighting my grill.
wh* is thi* so ********?
I'd've liked to see "schizophrenic," "antisocial," and "psychopath" among possible others, but this is indeed pretty cool.
I'dn't've.
You'shn't've
OK. Thanks for sharing. 🥰
Schizophrenic pop - hearing voices or seeing people and things that aren't real. Makes you do crazy stuff sometimes.
Schizophrenic from my Psych101 lecture - a disorder that includes marked changes in behavior, mood, affect, and perception. Sufferers question reality, may feel persecuted, and experience sensory simulation that has no external cause. Genetic component coupled with trauma (stress-diathesis model), with an extremely high comorbidity of suicide attempts, depression, and self harm.
Antisocial pop - going against the grain, not wanting to hang out with people, being misanthropic. "Oh jeeze, i'm just so antisocial lately... maybe I'll party some other time, guys."
Antisocial personality disorder 101 - personlality disorder involving behavior that is typically not only interpersonally disruptive, but is often actively working against the benefit of others. Often accompanied by blunted capacity for empathy for others. Strong genetic component, may express after traumatic childhood experience or an abusive upbringing. Interestingly, has a high comorbidity for substance abuse and other potentially self-destructive behaviors. AKA sociopathy. Early.onset, typically pre-adolescence at latest for diagnosis. Otherwise, it's considered something akin to adolescent outburst, where it's expected to go away after some time. Early onset prognosis is worse.
Psychopathy pop - Cletus Cassidy, Michael Myers, Mrs. Voorhees, the Driller Killer, etc. See also "psycho"
Psychopathy 101 - similar to ASPD above, but not so much the self-destructive behaviors. Couples antisocial behaviors with complete lack of care or remorse for others, along with a superficial charm (refer back to Learning & Behavior, and social psych notes... charm is a skill!) to manipulate others into doing what they want. Often manifests as "conduct disorder" in kids, but diagnosis is difficult, as there is little objective criteria to go on. The very definition of Psychopathy is hard to nail down, given its broad symptom list, overlap with other diagnoses, and disagreement among professionals.
"Psycho" is often misused, as it actually refers to psychosis, which is a detachment from reality in which the sufferer can't tell what is and isn't real. Causes considerable distress and may lead to dangerous or self-injurious behaviors.
Thanks for taking the time!
On the pop front, I'll just point add there was also a widespread misconception for a very long time (mostly in the past now I think, but still out there) that schizophrenia was the same as dissociative identity disorder.
Tangentially related, "Cultural Appropriation" was a an anthropological/historian term that meant defining and controlling another's culture. A good example is the English making it illegal for Scots to wear kilts in the 1700s. It is not personally using a hairstyle associated with another group despite what the term sounds like. The people that use that meaning literally culturally appropriated the term from the original group, under the real meaning of the term. People trying to tell spanish speakers that they are "Latinx" is another example of the original meaning.
nice try narcissists
This all seems correct as far as I know, but generally speaking we should reject infographics without source info
I can't be the only one, so:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662
I disagree with this but not sure if you're gaslighting me or not 🤔.
Your definitely being gaslight.
Or are you...
Oh god... hold me 🥹
Also "Antisocial" does not mean introverted. It means to react violently to social situations.
Yeah, true on both. I mean.. I guess I've used the terms either way but also understand the differences and appropriate usages of both.
You are correct. The only truly incorrectly defined word in the list is the “pop psychology” form of “trauma”, which looks like it was just made up for the sake of the meme. “Gaslighting” is correct on both sides, but the two in the middle are actually being paired with different forms of the same word, so the definition is inherently different. Also, the definitions on the left are coming from a learner’s dictionary so they come across as stupid next to advanced definitions.
Not really. I've seen a lot of people overuse "trauma" that way. I'm biased, as I teach psych, but there really is an almost silly amount of misuse of terms that way. Hell, that Lind of language is misused in online communities all the time, by people trying to punch-up their own actually mundane boring lives to make it sound like they've "been through" more than they have.
Would have up voted but the lack of citation and pointless censorship pushed it over for me.
Would have up voted but the lack of citation and pointless censorship pushed it over for me.
Err.... The phrase "Gaslighting" came from the movie Gaslight.
The idea of being "Triggered" came from Trigger Warnings.
Psychology may have their own understanding of those terms, but I don't think it has the original usages or widest popularization.
Trigger warning came from the psychological term for situations or stimuli that bring on panic attacks or obsessive thoughts.
Okay, but didn't what happen in that movie in line with the actual psychology column?
Look this is an art imitating life imitating art discussion that I don't think its going to go anywhere, I'm just saying, on the one hand I appreciate the post trying to clarify things for people misusing these terms but on the other hand I don't think it's being honest with how they're being misused.
If someone doesn't lie to you and pretend it's not a lie, that can still be the start of Gaslighting and should be called out as quickly as possible so people know they can't do that.
That's not a misuse or problem that needs to be corrected just because it's not exactly what happened in a 1930s movie. Which is by the way still pop-culture not "actual" psychology.
A psychologist didn't come up with it, an artist/writer did. Science doesn't get to claim all authority all the time and humanity should be relearning the fact that art and culture DOES produce knowledge.
Posts like this, the dismissal of cultural or "pop" phenomena as less authoritive is part of why we don't - that's my problem with it, okay?
How?