'We can sue him': Chumbawamba on Winston Peters use of their song
Politicians being told not to use a song happens surprisingly often actually, I know Donald Trump was told not to use one, I believe it was "rocking in the free world". They've also told Nigel Farage off, apparently.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/512262/we-can-sue-him-chumbawamba-on-winston-peters-use-of-their-songOpen linkView original on lemmy.nz
Trump has used so much music without permission that it has a Wikipedia entry: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musicians_who_oppose_Donald_Trump%27s_use_of_their_music
Oh fuck me.
"It's a ridiculous misuse of the song because the song is about resilience and community, and the idea that we can fight back against the state and the forces that are keeping us down."
I thought I misheard the lyrics. But I just checked and it's still about drinking... a lot. But sure, fuck the state by drinking I guess maybe.
Nah you're actually both right there.
They were a bunch of punk activists and also British, so the song is about their (alcoholic) neighbour and how working class people will keep a) tubthumping - trying to effect political change and b) trying to drunkenly unlock the front door.
"I get knocked down, but I get up again"
Sure sounds like resilience to me. But resilience against the whiskey drink, the lager drink, the cider drink and the vodka drink.
Or possibly against hearing the song "Danny Boy."
No he drunkenly sings Danny Boy. Because it reminds him of the better times.
Why would anyone need to ask for permission? These musicians sold off their rights long ago
Really wondering why you would think that.
Chumbawamba have a track record of being quite involved in rights issues, like the time they licensed a song to GM and used the money to campaign against GM.
This article only mentions them personally selling their music for individual advertising campaigns. It says nothing about the rights to play it at political rallies. As I can find it on Spotify and it plays on radio stations, it's likely they outsourced at least part of the rights management.
Also, I was reacting to the broader statement about musicians vs 'political rally use'
Using a rights management agency isn't the same as selling off/renouncing your rights to a property in perpetuity.
Kind of like having a rental agent doesn't mean you sold them the house.
I'm sure every use request isn't run past them personally but they're political activists so there's no way they would have a blanket "assume yes" policy on licensing for use by political entities.
I can find no record that someone sold the rights to ISWC
T-011.513.266-5for the purpose of this use. Where are you getting your opinion?Note I’m not litigating the copyright system, just your comment.
I love how they responded to you with a strawman argument.
I don't know about those codes. Is that the one for Rocking in the Free World? It just seems very unlikely to me that Neil Young would personally oversee every single use of this song