Spyke
lemmy.ca

What a piece of shit. And this guy was running US foreign policy? Wow. Saudis must be regretting paying this man $40m a year to manage their billions.

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Didn't they give him a 99 year lease on a Manhattan building? I remember reading something about a $2 billion dollar value between nepo baby and the Saudis...

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kbin.social

Literally the same shit Russians say about Ukrainian land. Shitheads of the same stripe.

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lemmy.world

it's almost like real estate developers have become a major force for evil in the world...

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have become

Implying this is a new trend. Wait until they start hording land where the new coast lines will be. Shit straight out of Superman.

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lemmy.zip

Eh, they do? I've never met such IRL (I live in Moscow, if something). On the Web it's hard to tell how many are trolls or have nothing to do to fill the void inside except to write aggressive bullshit.

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Literally used in official government recruitment ads.

I have bad news if you can talk to ads

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Wait, what? 172nd trimester is a 43 year old dude.. I was making a joke. I hope you are too, otherwise there's a serious disconnect here.

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floofloofreply
lemmy.ca

Yeah, while we can criticize Biden for going along with Israel's attacks on Palestinians, it's pure fantasy to imagine Trump and his associates would be any less enthusiastic. All the signs are that they'd be even more enthusiastic, plus they have the support of the crazy evangelicals who want to bring about the Rapture.

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If you accept bribes to look the other way, you do that always.

I mean, it's just that for a few decades the poorer side of most conflicts was both usually plain worse and usually unable to negotiate (say, DPRK vs South Korea ...).

It was very convenient to hide the mechanism where Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey are on the "good" side.

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Biden is actually doing the genocide. Kushner is just flapping his lips. If we were talking about Americans starving instead of Palestinians, no one would be making excuses for Biden. But it's brown people overseas, so it's just an unpleasant fact we need to make peace with.

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I so thought this was The Onion. I saw that headline and thought “that perfectly captures a sentiment of the settlers, but it may be too antisemitic for humor”.

Then I saw The Guardian. I guess you really can’t make this up.

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Anything Trump family related if it sounds normal it's not true, and if it sounds insane it's probably true.

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kbin.social

Good GOD, man. I literally said "EWWWWWWW!!!" when I read this. This is like the genocidal version of Gene Hackman's plans in the Superman film.

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Those people probably root for Luthor when watching the movie. Remember, fellow sociopath Steve Bannon has said publicly that he's a fan of Satan and Darth Vader.

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So could his properties in NYC. I wonder how he'd feel about Netanyahu bombing his penthouse and seizing his own real estate.

And if he doesn't like that, we just need to remind him of the great value inherent to those properties.

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lemmy.world

Oh yeah, and he's Jewish too isn't he, so he'll get in on redeveloping it.

Nothing suspicious to see here folks

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bartolomeoreply
suppo.fi

Anti-semitism is when you dislike someone because they are Jewish, not when you dislike someone because they want to ethnically cleanse Palestine and create vALuaBlE WAterFrONt PrOPerTiEs on the stolen land, especially when that person literally runs a real estate development company and could possibly have access to that specific market (because he's Jewish and that's important to Israel).

Saying that a Jewish person is Jewish is not anti-semitism.

Edit: Maybe you don't know about how Kushner has served Israel in the past:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Accords

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literature.cafe

Sure bro, whatever lets you pretend you're not being a racist. That would make you bad, and that's impossible.

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Wait which part of what I said was racist?

Or are you living in a fantasy world where the people who will reap the material rewards of the destruction and appropriation of land in Gaza are other than Jewish? There is plenty of racism in this situation but it's not coming from those who are calling it out. Please educate yourself on Jewish settlements in the Occupied Territories of Palestine if you care about truth.

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..." but from Israel’s perspective I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up,” Kushner said. “But I don’t think that Israel has stated that they don’t want the people to move back there afterwards.”

Masoud replied that there was “a lot to talk about there”.>

Yea, no shit.

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lemm.ee

Almost comical how comicbook villain he is.

It's like a troll tried to craft the most annoying inflammatory statement they could

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This is close to Lex Luthor's plot in the 78 Superman movie.

I remember people telling me that Captain Planet had unrealistic villains.

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Maybe we should banish him to the desert instead after leveling his home and selling it to property developers, see how he feels about the concept then.

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He'd still be left better off than Palestinians, even ignoring any assets he has that aren't tied to his home, because he wasn't bombed while en route to the suggested safe zone.

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Fuck this guy, nepotism in plain sight bullshit fucking system that needs to be dismantled.

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He doesn't have principles, just as Trump doesn't. With them it's just whatever's the most self-serving move in the moment, every moment.

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Just when we were starting to forget how despicable he is

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"Hi, uh good morning, is this the place where I say my thoughts out loud and potentially put myself and my family in danger?"

"Yes it is."

"Oh thanks. Well can you write 'I can't wait for all the Palestinians (including women and children) are shot or starved to death so we can bulldoze their homes and communities to build some luxury condos for my billionaire buddies.' "

"...naire buddies. All done sir, was their anything else?"

"Not at the moment thank you madam."

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lemmy.world

Remember, Lex Fridman platformed Jared Kushner and Tucker Carlson in front of his millions of listeners, allowing them them to further propagate their right wing propaganda. Lex is a fucking hack, and a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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juicyreply
lemmy.today

He also platformed a Palestinian in a powerful interview. We don't need to be so afraid of words. People can think for themselves.

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Riccosuavereply
lemmy.world

I'm not afraid of words. I am expressing my own displeasure with Lex Fridman by using words right now. If you don't agree with my opinion then that is your prerogative, but what I said was factually accurate. You won't find that same factual accuracy in either of those interviews, and that is the fucking problem.

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juicyreply
lemmy.today

An interview isn't meant to be factual like a news report. The whole point is to hear someone's perspective. Friedman's project is to expose his listeners to a broad spectrum of views. That's an honorable goal.

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I see, you are one of those people who's mind is so open, your brain has fallen out. Makes perfect sense now.

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What a moron. Unbelievable that he was anywhere near US foreign policy a few years ago when he can come out with clangers like this which piss off literally everyone.

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And his mutilated body dragged through the street could also be great entertainment.

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

Why would you say that and then share a 1 minute clip?

Here's the full interview. link

It's so much worse than just the bits everyone pulled. Including begging the question of why Gaza couldn't build itself into a resort destination, why the refugees don't want to leave the borders of Gaza, and a lovely gem where he says Isreal is doing the most anyone's ever done to avoid civilian casualties while wondering why they don't evacuate civilians.

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lemmy.world

Thanks for the full link. I was on my phone and no one in the post or site page linked any video so I quickly searched youtube for anything short at least. It's very clear by what he said that he doesn't view palestinians as humans. His zionism is extremely repulsive

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I don't think he views anyone with a net worth less than his as human.

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sh.itjust.works

Vote Biden. If your actions lead to predictable outcomes, you assume that moral liability whether you want to or not.

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Actually he is right about the Gaza coast being wort BILLIONS.

See, the Gazans could have gone the Monaco way, build a tax haven at the Mediterranean. They got so much financial help they could have build a luxury tourist resort like Monaco. They could literally have become all millionaires.

But taking it away from them just because they are too dump to exploit the opportunity? Nah, rather not. It is better to mock them for living like cave men against better knowledge.

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lemmy.world

Cave Men are humans. They just prefer to life in caves. What is wrong about that? Your statistics misses the marker for the Gaza-Rocket attacks. Actually within the last 19 years there wasn't a single day they didn't shot rockets and grenades at Israel.

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lemmy.world

Everything. That's incredibly racist and a complete fabrication. Palestinians are normal people that want to live a normal life, which is impossible under the daily violence Israel uses to maintain the apartheid. Israel has always bombed Palestinians in gaza, both during the wars they regularly wage on Gaza and during times of relative peace.

Year before Oct 7 - Jewish Voice for Peace

2023 is 'deadliest year' for Palestinian children say human rights groups

HRW Events of 2022

HRW Events of 2023

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lemmy.world

Again you forgot to mention that Hamas has been shooting rockets at Israel for 15 years. 100 per day was considered peace time. By the way, the war will be over as soon as Hamas surrenders. بمشيئة الله. أو في هذه الحالة، بمشيئة حماس.

Obviously they are really keen to wage a little war every now and then so don't take that from them. The have free will and are masters of their own choices: If you go to a gun fight with a knife - don't blame the gun owner.

The Geneva convention doesn't know about "fairness". It simply states that every combatant is a valid target, no matter how incompetent he is.

And by the way, you are dehumanizing cave men. Being a cave men is a personal decision and shouldn't be used fuelling prejudices.

About Hamas in the bigger picture:

JLOTS in Gaza

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lemmy.world

Dude, are you ok? Palestinians are not 'cave men.'

If you stopped dehumanizing palestinians for a moment, maybe you'd recognize Hamas began twenty years into an Occupation enforced with direct and systemic violence, with the goal of ending the occupation. Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.

Hamas in its early days, according to former Israeli officials, was seen by the government of Israel as a counterweight to the PLO. Israel supported Hamas as a way to break the PLO's hold on the region. Retired official Avner Cohen, who worked in Gaza in the 1990s and oversaw religious affairs in the region, told the WSJ in 2009, “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation."

And in the backdrop of the 2006 election were geographic and political divides between Gaza and the West Bank. Contrary to what Bennett claimed, Israel restricted Palestinians from moving in and out of Gaza, as well as between the strip and the West Bank, since at least the 1990s, after the first Palestinian Intifada, or uprising, according to Al Jazeera. In addition to Gaza's borders, the Israeli government controlled its coastline and airspace, allowing for military incursions into the territory, and, in 2007, established the blockade on goods and people that still exists as of this writing.

People Claim a Majority of Palestinians in Gaza Elected Hamas — Here's Why It Isn't That Simple

Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017

This is a brutal occupation that is an apartheid regime, uses martial law, and military courts, the theft and extortion of water, the exploitation of Palestinians as a workforce without rights, state-backed settler violence, the deprivation of human rights for Palestinians, the destruction of schools, the destruction of hospitals, the destruction of homes, the starvation of children, the execution of women and children, the inhuman torture and abuse of Palestinians and yes even children in Israeli prisons. The point of dehumanizing rhetoric like 'cave men' or 'savage' is to normalize human rights abuses, war crimes, and . If you see palestinians as human, the same as Israelis or anyone else. It's completely clear that the Israeli apartheid is completely unacceptable, yet it's been the reality for decades and decades.

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If you were serious, you would read those sources and realize how dumb of a question that is.

Ceasefire History

Oct 9 2023 - Hamas official says group is open to discussions over truce with Israel - Reuters

Oct 16 2023 9:41 AM - Israel denies ceasefire in place to allow entrance of aid to Gaza - Times of Israel

Oct 27 2023 - Hamas official demands ceasefire for hostages to be released - Fox News

Oct 31 2023 - Fighting in Gaza intensifies as Netanyahu rejects calls for cease-fire - CBS

Nov 5 2023 - Israel rejects ceasefire calls as forces set to deepen offensive - Reuters

Nov 14 2023 - Hamas' armed wing says it is ready to free 70 Israeli hostages in return for a 5-day cease-fire - Business Insider

Nov 23 2023 Temp Ceasefire Begins 24th

Dec 1 2023 Temp Ceasefire Ends

Dec 8 2023 - U.S. vetoes ceasefire demand as UN secretary general warns Gaza 'at breaking point' - CBC

Dec 12 2023 1:31 PM - U.N. General Assembly votes in favor of cease-fire resolution 153-10; U.S. and Israel vote against - NBC

Dec 20 2023 - Hamas insists on end to Israel’s offensive in Gaza before hostage talks can begin - The Guardian

Dec 25 2023 - Hamas, Islamic Jihad reject Gaza gov. overhaul for permanent ceasefire, Egyptian sources say - Reuters

Jan 3 2024 - Hamas says there must be a permanent ceasefire deal in order for remaining hostages to be released - CNN

Jan 10 2024 - US defends its veto of call for Gaza cease-fire while Palestinians and others demand fighting stop - AP News

Jan 22 2024 - Hostage talks continue as Israel rejects Hamas demand for full IDF withdrawal and a permanent cease-fire - NBC

Jan 31 2024 - Netanyahu rejects Hamas conditions for ceasefire, refuses to release 'thousands of terrorists' - India TV

Feb 7 2024 - Hamas ceasefire proposal details - Reuters

Feb 14 2024 - Gaza cease-fire and hostage release talks appear to stall as Netanyahu and Hamas trade blame - AP News

Feb 20 2024 - US blocks ceasefire call with third UN veto in Israel-Hamas war - Reuters

Mar 6 2024 - Officials say Hamas has continued to press Israel for a commitment to a permanent cease-fire after a multistage release of all hostages, but Israel has refused. - NY Times

Mar 22, 2024Why Biden Proposed a UN (temporary) Ceasefire Resolution That Was Vetoed by Russia and China - Time

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