Spyke
lemmy.world

Elvis Presley’s Suspicious Minds – was followed by the tinny sound of Justice for All, a rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner sung by defendants jailed over their alleged roles in the January 6, 2021, insurrection.

Their alleged roles?!?! YOU FUCKS goddammit Guardian what the motherfucking hell are you doing? They were convicted by a court of law there's no alleged about it!! FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

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well that and they where on video that they took of the event! in case anyone wants to go with the oh the court is rigged or something. definately no alleged about it.

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Who exactly does this schlocky shit appeal to? This is obvious theatre; it's scary how manipulable his base is.

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He added: “We have languages coming into our country … they have languages that nobody in this country has ever heard of. It’s a horrible thing.”

He comes up with the weirdest shit.

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It's from the underground country of Hipsterkistan. You've probably never heard of it.

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lemmy.world

We have ____ coming into our country … they have _____ that nobody in this country has ever heard of. It’s a horrible thing.”

It's ad libs at this point.

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Does he mean like when English came into this country and nobody had ever heard of it?

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I’ve heard of talking backwards in code to the beat of a babies heart. And then sucking the last drop of adrenochrome from the teet, sinking teeth to eat, ketchup, the walls! The walllls

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kbin.social

Among the great tragedies of our time is the fact that this slimy rapist dirtbag conman isn't already yesterday's news. Fade the fuck away, Donald.

The American right are beyond pathetic that this whining fat orange bitch is the best they've been able to come up with for 3 consecutive election cycles. At best he's a distraction from the shit our country needs to do and at worst he's a danger to the entire world, us included. Demented dotard belongs in jail and nowhere near the levers of power.

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lemmy.zip

He's not a danger himself. He's not in the shape for anything but hospice.

This is elder abuse and I feel terrified at the thought of anybody being in his skin.

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Kedlyreply
lemm.ee

Pretty sure Trump doesnt deserve that level of empathy

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braxy29reply
lemmy.world

i feel like i tend to have a decently high level ability to understand and empathize with people, but i just can't summon it for that man.

i'm sorry he was abused, but at some point, a person can just be a worthless pos.

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There's the quiet part that gets said out loud.
then there's the part that they think, loudly.
Then there's the parts that are so awful, they even think them quietly.  
 
 
I'm convinced CPAC is the last part, there.

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I'm genuinely creeped out that someone saying these things can have so much support. Honestly I just want to go home and hide under the bed. A year ago when people said things about Trump like "authoritarian" and "fascist" and whatever else it was kinda true but also some hyperbole. Now it's just plain true.

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blazeknavereply
lemmy.world

It was never hyperbole. Remember when he tried to overthrow democracy? Sorry, but you're just coming to acceptance. This isn't new. Ask historians.

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lemmy.world

Exactly. Anyone saying Trump criticism was just hyped up bullshit is a straight moron, or completely in denial. Sure, he's just saying it plainly now, but it was really fucking obvious previously.

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Same as his cultists who can't face reality. They didn't take him seriously and they don't want to admit they were duped. (Yes, that's an intentionally vague "they" because it applies to both sides)

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You should see how they talk when they think they're in their echo chambers. Hell, they just do it in the open now.

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lemmy.world

Those quotes sound way too coherent to be coming from Trump....

How does he manage to say the most Fascist shit so clearly but then everything else is just mumbled incoherent garbage?

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It's written by Steven Miller, Bannon, and the like

But yea, he's good at saying the fascist shit. Rolls right off his grotesque tongue and out his putrid KFC-hole

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rdyoungreply
lemmy.world

Because someone else wrote it.

Trump is a moron and can barely string a sentence together when he is winging it. When he has a prompt and someone he owes money to tells him what to say, he is as eloquent as he can be.

I feel like the only one who sees through the bullshit. I feel like I'm the only one who has realized that trump isn't a smart person nor good at speaking unless he has a script to follow that he can't diverge from because as soon as he does the crazy cat lady is on display.

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lemmy.world

I feel like the only one who sees through the bullshit. I feel like I'm the only one who has realized that trump isn't a smart person nor good at speaking unless he has a script to follow that he can't diverge from because as soon as he does the crazy cat lady is on display.

Yes, yes...you very special and unique little unicorn.

You're the only one.

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From what I see here and previously on reddit and when I was sort of (but not really) active on fb. I definitely feel like that or at the least I'm one of only a few willing to call out insanity and try to educate others so we all have a better future.

If more people like us would step up and be more active online and off, we may have been able to avoid the whole trump in office bit to begin with. I know that most us are not spotlight friendly and would rather just be left alone but we can't live like that for the foreseeable future. Not until enough of the maggats and their leaders are in jail or barred from politics for life.

I was telling everyone I knew about trump when he first ran this time around. Even in my circles I'm an exception who knew what trump was and has known for 30+ years.

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The article explains that he used a teleprompter for this speech and broke away from it a few times to ramble incoherently.

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lemmy.world

This man says so many things daily that shows he is unfit, and the best defense we have against him is Biden. It is going to be a rough ride.

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How are there not at least a million other citizens in the United States who would be better presidential candidates, not just these two old yokels.

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tocopherolreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Trump still had a chance, and Biden is less popular than he was in 2020, I personally doubt Biden will win.

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I’m afraid of it but I agree with you because “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity” so it’s very much possible for the orange leader to occupy the White House again, and possibly for the rest of his days.

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Lukereply
lemmy.ml

No, we have other better options, but liberals will refuse to vote for anyone who they haven't had led to them by the DNC establishment, and then act like everyone else is enabling fascism by suggesting actual leftist leadership.

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Why do you think that regular voters get to decide who the DNC candidate is during a Democratic incumbent administration?

If you abstain from voting because you equate Biden to be as bad as Trump, Trump will be the next President. Don't be a fucking idiot.

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lemmy.ca

I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but that title is misleading:

the unprecedented success of the United States of America will be my ultimate and absolute revenge.”

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lemmy.zip

Sure, but that "success" are coming after his "day 1 dictator" comments-- just a few short dots to connect and come up with the original title here.

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lemmy.ca

Sure, but then quote the actual problematic comments, don't purposely mislead with the one thing he said that wasn't problematic. That just gives fuel to their persecution complex.

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Right, but every new article seems to treat him with a blank slate. You could write a completely unbiased true article saying "Convicted rapist who wants to be dictator 'for day one' of his presidency says that he'll use the 'success of the US' as his ultimate revenge."

The news fucking kowtows to this fascist's feelings far too much IMO. Seems biased in the opposite direction, just so they can maintain a "neutral" tone.

edit: of course all news has bias, I meant truth instead

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These manipulative headlines only help Trump. In the same speech he says he is the only person who can stop WW3. A ridiculous statement that only a cult leader would say. He also said that Biden approved Nord Stream on day 2 of his presidency which is a complete lie. Nord Stream 1 was blown up and then Biden got Germany to cancel Nord Stream 2. The opposite of what Trump said. There is plenty of valid criticisms and no need to be manipulative of Trump's words.

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lemmy.world

Meanwhile I just saw an article about donors being worried about Biden using note cards...

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Nuddingreply
lemmy.world

I'd be more worried about the genocide.

People ITT: Fine with supplying arms to a country engaged in genocide as long as it's the dems doing it.

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Homininereply
lemmy.world

Yeah yeah yeah, you got us all figured out seeing as we're not slovenly throwing charged words around while using conspiracy to deflect in our edits.

Maybe people are simply tired of hearing off-topic screeds? Nah, it's the children that are wrong.

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Tell me about the conspiracy of which you refer. I need to see the dems scramble to downvote your reply.

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Nuddingreply
lemmy.world

I'm sure when you vote for Biden he will get the message that you're against genocide.

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Homininereply
lemmy.world

Well done, you certainly changed my mind. Before my posts were like, "yay genocide" but now I'm all, "genocide's bad."

What pablum you feed yourself.

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lemmy.world

People like you probably don’t even care about genocide. After all, I don’t see these same “accounts” standing up for Ukraine with such passion. You’re just a stooge who wants Trump to win because you’re a shill, some dumb “burn it all to the ground” idiot, or both.

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If we were sending missles to fucking Russia it'd be comparable. Now you're starting to get it lol.

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flickerreply
lemmy.world

I don't think you'll succeed much by referring to anyone as a plebian. It's just animosity for animosity's sake.

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Mastengwereply
lemm.ee

You’re absolutely hilarious! Thanks for the laughs!

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I'm glad 30,000 dead civilians is hilarious to you. Thank you for putting it in writing.

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Removed and banned for misinformation. Biden is NOT engaging in genocide. Your propaganda will not be tolerated here.

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harmsyreply
lemmy.world

I'm not happy about that, either, but my choice is between someone who'll maintain the current level and someone who'll make that genocide even worse and try to start one HERE, too. Both options are bad, but one is measurably and obviously less bad.

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Nuddingreply
lemmy.world

I'm sorry that that's what your choices are, but at some point you have to start resisting and stop voting lesser of two evils, when both are blatantly evil as fuck. It's genocide for fuck sake.

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Kedlyreply
lemm.ee

Stop voting for the lesser of two evils so you can vote for the greater? WHY DIDNT WE THINK OF THIS BEFORE!?!?!

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Nuddingreply
lemmy.world

Hur dur we're experiencing tyrrany but all we can do is vote hurr durr

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How about you vote for the lesser of two evils and also protest and do all the other stuff? Seriously do not understand what you're advocating for.

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Mastengwereply
lemm.ee

bOtH siDeS are not the same here, kiddo. No matter how hard your propaganda tells you they are.

For starters, Biden is NOT committing genocide anywhere.

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Nuddingreply
lemmy.world

I'm sure history will remember the likes of you with disgust.

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Mastengwereply
lemm.ee

Such RAAAAAGE! Don’t worry, history couldn’t a shit about either of us. But the “likes of you” are usually remembers humorously for a while at least.

I mean, manufactured outrage over events happening in a country you probably couldn’t have pointed to on a map six months ago, to people you weren’t even aware were at war?

Things like this are usually never taken seriously at best- and laughed at at worst.

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what do you care? i thought you were ready for everyone to die.

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Kedlyreply
lemm.ee

You say this as if Ol' Trumpie boy wouldn't also contribute to both the Palestinian genocide AND the Ukrainian one

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So then when he's the president doing the genocide I'll shit talk him. Pretty basic stuff.

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literature.cafe

The one thing Trump won't do is start WW3. There are only two nations with nuclear arsenals that can threaten MAD, and the other is holding his leash.

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literature.cafe

The EU would dick Putin down, and has a defensive pact as part of joining. Not to mention that there are multiple nuclear powers in the organization.

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lemmy.world

Have you already forgotten his random assassination of that Iranian general? Or when he was trading barbs with NK, "this is the calm before the storm"?

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That's great, but the commenter specifically claimed he was going to start WW3 culminating in MAD.

Like, literally what he said.

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No, I just think human exceptionalism is disgusting. We've driven 70% of all species to extinction, and continue to drive 150 more a day. If we found an organism that kills all the other species around it permanently, we would do our damndest to eradicate it.

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Kedlyreply
lemm.ee

We're far less of a virus than any other of the animals on this planet'd be if they had our level of control over this planet. We're just incompatible with Earth, moving on to other planets is the best thing we could do for ours

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The fact that anyone thinks electing Trump will somehow improve the Gaza situation is absolutely baffling to me.

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Hux
lemmy.ml

Is his campaign manager Vince McMahon?

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beardownreply
lemm.ee

Trump is in the WWE Hall of Fame.

His venues have hosted Wrestlemanias, and he and Vince had a hair vs hair feud that culminated in a Wrestlemania match - Trump won.

No idea why this isn't brought up more - the WWF in the late 90s was incredibly vulgar, racist, and sexist. And Trump intentionally associated with it. Why is that never discussed?

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literature.cafe

Because the kind of loser that liked WWE is the kind of person that is terminally online on the even nerdier version of Reddit.

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Right, which makes Trump look like a giant fucking loser for working repeatedly with WWE since the 80s.

Which is why the Dems/Nikki Haley/Jeb should have brought it up repeatedly

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lemmy.world

If any of you are wondering I am selling pitch forks.

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Sanctusreply
lemmy.world

I must have missed the elite snipers and special task force during Jan 6.

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kbin.social

I saw it myself on televised cameras. There was nothing "alleged" about the disgusting and utterly degrading assault of America than happened on January 6th, conducted by the lowest forms of vermin on earth. I saw it myself - it did happen.

And furthermore, any human being who casts a vote for an excremental piece of criminal vermin like trump should be considered dangerously ill and NEEDS to be stripped of their American citizenship and their voting privileges. Society cannot afford to have sick cretins running around loose. Lock them up, or at least build gas chambers to get rid of them all for good so we can move on from this horror.

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lemmy.world

I'm frustrated too, but this is the rhetoric of the people you're railing against. Please take a moment and regroup.

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lemmy.world

But what you're saying is literally what they are, just in the opposite direction.

And to be clear, I think of the two choices that you'd be correct. However, saying people need to have their citizenship revoked because they vote for someone you don't agree with is the opposite of democracy. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you get to throw out the rules.

You're just being what they are.

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Gee I wonder why democrats always get shit on /s. Guh let's just wait for the politicians and corporations to set things right. They have our best interests in mind. Meanwhile Republicans are literally barging into house and taking over. Fucking spineless. It's okay the most important trial in us history is about to get dropped because fani needed a booty call. .... from a Canadian standpoint. Your fucked.

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Funny thing though: the other side says the exact same thing.

Of course, they are brainwashed and full of hatred, but again, they say the same about us.

I'm just trying to say: you're right, but the other side isn't going for trump because they're insane. They're going for trump because they allowed themselves to be fooled, but they really believe all the crap trump is feeding them. These aren't so much evil geniuses as gullible people who want what they think is best. Since they're told were all evil and out to get them, well, they want to get rid of us. The age old "divide and conquer" strategy.

The more you go "kill em all" the more they will too, that will lead to an ugly outcome. Even if we win, we still gotta live next to them, they're our neighbors, our family, our friends. Maybe focus your anger on those that are riling them up, that tell them to hate. Trump should at this point -frankly- be shot for treason, same for his kids who are very involved. Their followers, however, should be shown and made understood that trump is hatez that trump is lies and corruption.

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lemmy.world

Sure sounds like Trump is a big threat. I may not know much but it seems like cutting off arms supply to Israel would be a bargain if it means this guy doesn't get elected again. I'm sure some moderate will come in and educate me on why they should get to have their cake and eat it too.

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blazeknavereply
lemmy.world

Stop equivocating. There's no tomorrow after this. Short sighted. I'm starting to despise people like you as we get closer to the election. And before you try to debate me, THIS POST IS A FORUM ABOUT THE THREAT OF A TRUMP VICTORY. No response of yours refutes the fact you're steering the conversation. You're working toward a Trump victory no matter what you claim your motivation for your comment.

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lemmy.world

I'm not equivocating. I'm saying if the situation is this dire then surely cutting off arms supply to Israel is a fucking bargain isn't it?

It's time to compromise with leftists and progressives. If you won't do it now when "there's no tomorrow after this" then you never will. Make a choice.

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Are leftists a minor wing that's too small to be compromised with? Because if so it's impossible for us to hold democracy hostage. Moderates are the majority voting bloc. They bear the lions share of the responsibility for any outcome. They elected Joe Biden in the primaries, they're responsible for how he does in the general elections.

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Mastengwereply
lemm.ee

compromise with leftists….

ROFL..

As a rule, no one should compromise with those that will not compromise. You end up giving away everything and getting nothing. Which is pretty much what it’s like when dealing with the entitled.

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blazeknavereply
lemmy.world

Seriously. Purported progressives acting like domestic terrorists thinking they're better than hippie anti vaxer moms showing up at the same rallies as nazis. I'm a fucking actual progressive. That's why I'm compromising with Biden to keep us on oxygen. I can't stand these fucking imbeciles..

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No one can. And as I said, they’ll be gone in a few months having moved on to some other half-baked non-truth to be outraged about.

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ferralcatreply
monyet.cc

I think Biden makes compromises. That's the leftists argument against him. But here he's probably weighing the cost of pissing off a Jewish block of support and leftists.

I also doubt it's much of a choice. The leftist won't support him regardless because he's not bernie sanders.

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blazeknavereply
lemmy.world

Shut the fuck up about the Jews. Every American Jew I know hates what's happening in Gaza and wants it to stop now. You're talking to one. Stop reading fucking headlines. You sound like a right winger. Want to rub my horns to find the space lasers?

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“Want to rub my horns to find the space lasers? “

Pretty sure there’s an OF niche market for that.

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lemmy.world

You think Joe Biden won the 2020 general election without the help of leftists and progressives?

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lemmy.world

As a rule, no one should compromise with those that will not compromise.

Are you under the impression Biden won the 2020 general election without the help of progressives and leftists?

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lemmy.world

So you are aware progressives and leftists compromised and voted for Biden in the 2020 general election.

Surely that means it's time for moderates and Biden to compromise yes?

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lemmy.world

This would be the progressive dream. Not arming Israel and Trump losing is having my cake and eating it too. It'd be a dream come true.

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lemmy.world

People need to start hounding moderates that it's their turn to compromise. They've dominated the party for so long they think they can just elect whoever they want in the primaries, refuse to compromise and blame somebody else.

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The reality of the situation is that there are a lot more moderate Democrats than there are progressives. They have the bargaining power. If we refuse to compromise, they can just turn to independents and moderates (overall moderates, not Democrats). So we're left with three scenarios:

  1. Get the best possible bargain and compromise we can, vote against the common fascist evil.

  2. Refuse the deal. Moderate Democrats instead try to pander to the center, and if they win, they move to appease the center allies.

  3. Refuse the deal. Democrats pander to center, but they lose. The fascists win instead and push us further right.

The only way to not move further right is to negotiate for the best deal we can, and take it. Plus, we have seen some progressive initiatives in return, like the IRA (happy to give my spiel on this) and a corporate minimum tax that eliminates loopholes.

I know this isn't ideal. But we don't hold the necessary power -- yet. My long term strategy is continuing to work with Democrats until the Republican party is no longer a threat. It's vulnerable, and a decisive loss in 2024 could be enough to fracture the party into irrelevance. Once they're tiny enough that we're safe, the Democrats and Progressives split into separate parties. Once enough Boomers die off and Zoomers are mostly all able to vote, progressives should have the numbers to rival moderate Democrats, if not eclipse them.

It's going to take a lot of time, but I think this is the best case scenario to work towards. If we want to have serious economic changes, we need to first hold strong and defeat the party that constantly tries to fuck with social rights.

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Mastengwereply
lemm.ee

I may not know much…

You nailed it right there.

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lemmy.world

Surely you can set me straight with a lecture about compromise or something.

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Mastengwereply
lemm.ee

Not going to bother. You’re not worth the time.

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buzziebeereply
lemmy.world

They really aren't worth the time. They probably aren't even a real person. If you look at their post history its literally nothing but FUD aimed at getting trump elected. Hundreds of posts every day. They either aren't very well (unlikely), or they are an agent of some kind. Don't feed the troll.

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Oh they’re absolutely either a right-wing shill or a Russian bot. The two are so interchanges they’re virtually the exact same thing.

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lemmy.world

Sounds like you think Biden can win the 2024 general election without our votes then. Good luck.

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Mastengwereply
lemm.ee

Was this you?

I'm not voting for Biden again. I'll be voting 3rd party or write in

You already don’t matter. So I’m not really concerned with what you think.

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lemmy.world

Actually it's you who doesn't matter. You'll vote for Biden regardless of what he does. I will only vote for Biden again if he cuts off arms for Israel and promises to veto any attempts to block the rail strike in his next term.

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Homininereply
lemmy.world

..need some oxygen in the old thinking-noodle no doubt.

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Hmm

Same sentiment gets trotted out on Reddit every single time

Tired

Bored

Nothing ever gon happen anyway so why care?

It’s so fucking obvs. at this point whose bots these are. Leave it alone

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We should just ignore his fascist ramblings and not mobilize people to vote against him? Nah. This stuff needs to be broadcast as widely as possible. Sorry if you're bored though. Spend some time away from social media I guess.

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