Right? The first few days I was worried it just wouldn’t be the same, but the slower upload of content here has made me browse when I want to without over browsing endlessly. The less active comment sections means I can interact with more people without being buried…it’s just better. And I’m excited to see it grow
I think I’ve been afraid to comment on Reddit because I assume no one will read it or I won’t have anything novel to say. But I definitely agree that I like the smaller community here
Quality has been dramatically better here than Reddit has been for many years. Finding people actually discussing the post in the comments is rare on Reddit, you have to sift through endless lines of off topic puns and memes being promoted by bots for karma farming. The goal of comments on Reddit is to be funny, not interesting or useful. The fediverse is more like Reddit eight or nine years ago, when they were figuring out their control algorithms, building their own bot network to game their own site (remember the subreddit where the reddit-built bots used to exclusively talk with each other for practice? I wonder what those bots are doing today...), and learning how to control the flow of information on their page while also finally making some things more stable.
I'm really curious if any parts of the fediverse can avoid the same pitfalls that Reddit eagerly jumped into. It's probably doubtful since once the advertisers get here, greed will win. It always does. But maybe.
I agree with you: I think decline of a site is an inevitability, especially after advertising is needed due to increased traffic.
But I personally don’t need Lemmy or anywhere else to be permanent, since what I get out of it is either transient (scrolling for memes and things that pique my interest) or meaningful enough that it remains with me, meaning enjoyable or thought provoking discussions.
Granted, I’d rather alternative sites not go tits up in rapid succession while the shuffling corpse they’re trying to ape continues to slog on mindlessly, but keeping the impermanence in mind makes it easier to see these places as areas to congregate rather than the end to surfing the web in general.
Am I the only one that’s browsing every…instance? (I’m still not sure if that’s the right word. Every community within Lemmy.world) just for the sake of having newer posts to peruse? Or are you all in active enough communities that your subscribed communities are offering up new enough content regularly enough to just browse those?
Oh I’m always in the All section. Still kinda wrapping my head around instances as a concept: mentally I think if it as a single room with a ton of cubicles.
I treat subscriptions more like bookmarks: communities that I want to come back to specifically, but I don’t just browse them. It’s more like going to a grocery store and being sure to get the staples but not ignoring the rest of the aisles. How else am I going to find a new interest or perspective worth keeping if I don’t look?
I’m browsing all instances, not just communities on Lemmy.World right now. Curating a subscription stack more and more every day. And more importantly, identifying and blocking communities I never want to see in my /all/ feed. It’s been great so far.
Yeah, the nomadic life does sound pretty appealing at this time. I've learned over the years that nothing lasts forever, and this situation is showing that things don't necessarily stay good for as long as they do last. What's new and great eventually becomes old and tired (including us ourselves), but there's probably still other new and great things out there (though we might actually see the end of that during our lifetimes, what with the end of the world looming).
I'll hang out here for a while until I stop liking it, then I'll probably hang out for a bit longer and then look around elsewhere.
I'm all for trying to be funny in comments for sure, but make it relevant to the topic and for fuck sake make it original. Spamming the same tired jokes and memes isn't adding to the conversation.
Amen to that! I'm not a super prolific poster here either, but compared to reddit I'm WAY more active, and it feels mre fun too. In 15 years on reddit I have only made 2 threads as far as I can remember, but on Lemmy (and Squabbles) I've been sharing my house plants recently and it feels great!
Yes, the community is much smaller, but also much kinder,and I the average age feels higher here too (I have zero data on it, but just judging by the writing style it feels like there's a whole bunch of people roughly my age (40+) around these parts).
Yeah I definitely have the tendency to over estimate how old the people I’m talking to online are, but I agree that everyone here feels more like an adult lol
On top of that, I feel far more incentive to comment, upvote, and just generally engage here.
Overall this feels like a less hostile environment, without the clickish groupthink that had an army of bots or trolls out to downvote you.
People have mentioned the higher complexity of getting set up on instances as a barrier to entry for the masses. I say wonderful. I'll take a small community of diverse, engaged people over the mobs of span, trolls, and parrots.
Leaving reddit for lemmy feels like finding a nice person who cares after being in along abusive relationship. Never realised how bad it was, or how good it could be.
Is it temporary? Who knows, but I'd rather spend my time making this into what I want then ever looking back.
Yeah, it’s nice to feel like I’m contributing something as opposed to trying to muscle my way into a conversation that doesn’t need 10,000 of the people who are commenting, commenting.
That's an interesting POV I hadn't really considered before. I'll probably go to Reddit when I need some kind of niche info on something, but stick to Lemmy for just discussion and general time killing, which was my main use for Reddit anyway.
It's a shame how shabbily reddit's board and u/spez (and his lackeys) have treated reddit's users and mods. They benefited enormously from free content and hours of unpaid moderation, yet they chose to throw it all away.
I mean sure posts about Reddit makes us seem like the bitter ex, but they are to be expected, since it's the only thing all Lemmy users have in common: Being ex-Redditors. It will stop naturally with time.
Although, on Reddit we were always talking about musk and Twitter. Dumpster fires when the AIC (asshole in charge) deserves the harm coming to their profits and their website, it’s newsworthy and juicy content.
Although I do agree that it will slow to a trickle and then eventually stop. Not because the content stops being interesting to us, but because reffit will ultimately probably win in the end, they’re IPO will be profitable, they’ll continue down this enshittification road until FB make a Reddit competitor and then everyone that didn’t care about the API thing because they were too busy watching reruns of the Big Bang theory will move there. It’s the circle of tech life, eventually fb will own the internet
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Honestly I've been addicted to reddit for several years, and it even had negative consequences for my life. When I was depressed I just used reddit all day and became obsessed with the subreddit moderated. I deleted that account and now I'm in a much better place but that constant urge to open reddit is still there.
Before July 1 my reddit usage was around 2 hours every day, now it's been 0 for 5 days.
I used reddit for 11 years, founded multiple subreddits, and was a head mod on even more. I had over 150,000 karma. I spent hours a day for over decade in that shithole. I recently walked away. My account still lives but it is no longer a mod of any sub and I have deleted every single comment I ever made. I struggle every day to stay off reddit.
Happy for you friend! I also went from a few hours a day to nothing. Wasn't trying to improve myself, it was just out of sheer rage at how things were being done over there. Any time I would log in I would feel self hatred and just end up making lengthy comments about spez being an asshole.
Question, have you tried replacing the hobby? I've found hiking and writing - (writing lyrics/other things as I hike/walk) to provide even more enjoyment than I was getting online 24/7
I got banned for wrong-think (essentially talking back to a sub mod) and it greatly improved my mental health not being able to call out the absolutely driveling imbeciles that populate reddit. It just made me not care anymore.
And yes reddit admins will ban you if you respond to sub mods to complain
They ban permanently for all kinds of bs. Felt like walking on eggshells at that place.
Didn't help that I wasn't 100% "left" - ironically I did lean left but if you're not 100% emphatically regurgitating all of the talking points they're currently recycling they gang up on you, mass report, call for mods, twist words etc.
Last month a mod flipped out and called me a Nazi bc I commented that it's bogus that mods blanket ban everyone that stumbles on and comments any sub that they dissaprove of.
Their logic was that if I comment on a conservative sub (Nazi?) Then that absolutely makes me a Nazi and there's absolutely no grey area or context.
That seems to be what most of the communities in some subs is like as well. If you're not high fiving them, you're shooting at them.
I don't like it.. I miss the old days of the internet, sure we all argued and shit but everyone at least had their little factions. Now it feels like the left runs the entire internet because most sites don't want Republicans there.
I get why but it sucks feeling like I don't belong on either side. I'm apolitical, which in itself has sparked a dozen redshit arguments and accusations. Can't say "apolitical" you're just secretly a centrist if you do. Can't disagree with BOTH sides because neither can fathom that. Can't sympathize with a single "red" point of view bc you're a Nazi.
Ugh.
Cringetopia (the sub) branched off and made a website. Loved that place. Unfortunately the subs own userbase hates the chAnge and boycotted the site, also running smear campaigns and bs saying the site was only in it for the money via ad revenue even though the site owners had paid out of their own pockets for the servers and there wasn't a single ad..
Now it feels like the left runs the entire internet because most sites don’t want Republicans there.
It is interesting that this is your experience, but I can say that this is objectively not true. Especially if you're on social media and not logged in, the content has a far right bias, there's often at least one recommended video which goes in that direction. About twitter was one study that twitter systematically preferred right-wing content… before Elon bought it. And I mean, everyone knows about Facebook.
The fascist Bolsonaro (he literally said the dictatorship was Brazil's best time and that its only mistake was to not torture enough; you gotta agree he's a literal fascist) movement just won the presidential elections because of Facebook and social media. It is a massive system driving people especially to a far-right extreme.
What I can say about "Can’t disagree with BOTH sides because neither can fathom that." is well… I mean, yeah, if you disagree with both, both probably won't like that haha. But there is one problem to disagree with both sides if one side of them is e.g. literally trying to eradicate trans people, trying to deny them their existence, discriminate, etc., and also literally trying to undermine democracy and overthrow elections and is actively restricting who is able to vote, and the other one… isn't.
I can understand if someone financially benefits from Republicans, or is business-friendly or such, but criticising both as in that both are the same amount of bad is just wrong and harmful, because we just got to the point where only one side got completely off all norms and in an antidemocratic and borderline genocidal.
(And for the record: I'm not a US-American. I am certainly not a fan of the US Democratic party. And I do think that of course it's good to criticise everyone who does bad stuff, and to point that out.)
I don't support Republicans going against trans people or messing with abortion, to be honest I think they should keep their nose out of our personal choices and leave us be.
But I don't like the left either.
It's not "left vs. right" - that's just how it's framed to us. The U.S government is fucked up on all levels and both sides have done heinous things and kept us divided throughout history.
I truly believe that's all the two party system is, division. Ever listened to "Binaural beats"? Where they play for example a lower frequency in one ear, but a higher frequency in the other. I don't remember the exact method so pardon if I'm Rusty but basically the end result is we hear and are tuned to the frequency in between the two, low and high, sounds.
To me that's what the two party system reminds me of. One party outrages and destroys certain liberties or whatever. The other party fights back and the result is whatever they want it to be.
I just want to do away with all of it. Remove every part of the government that isn't directly benefitting our quality of life and start over.
If you view reddit in incognito or on a VPN, the front page absolutely, 100 percent has the most hard far left slant possible. Half the front page posts are from whitepeopletwitter which has the collective personality of a meth-ed up AOC crossed with Stalin
Well, I was generally talking about social media, and for Youtube, Facebook, Twitter it was all the other side. To be fair, I do not know about Reddit (haven't read any studies about it and are personally not enough in that sphere), so I could imagine it to be the outlier. Besides that, this comment does not respond to any of my arguments or talking points.
I guess some of that has come over here based on your comment scores, but at least your comments aren't being removed 🤷♀️ I haven't been downvoting anything here based on disagreement cause a) I think discouraging people from sharing their opinions here will kill the site, even if you don't like their opinions and b) I think it's wrong anyway.
I hope the extreme polarization and just general toxicity doesn't last here. I get that Reddit is perfectly designed to split people into tribes, and I hope that's not true of this site as well.
I agree entirely. Just because I might not agree with someone on their politics doesn't mean we can't have a civil discussion, especially regarding apolitical topics
the only thing I miss about reddit is how much more diversity it had. cause let's face it, there just isn't as much content here. it's also how I stayed caught up on current events
It's a shame because there's so much good stuff on the site. (So much bad stuff, too, don't get me wrong.) All that stuff is looking more and more likely to go up in smoke.
I'm disappointed how few subreddits are daring to call their bluff, or put their full weight behind migrating. It's clear they actually aren't able to replace moderators that easily.
Seriously. I never want to hear how hard it is to mod a subreddit with existing mod tools again. They've rolled over for spez (which is their right) and they don't get to complain about it anymore.
“We are now stuck in a difficult position as we do not want the community to die”
Feels to me like they dug their own grave and now complain that the user's are problem.
What are they expecting after they remove moderators and remove the nsfw status? That the users keep posting? They aren't dumb and I could imagine that some or most people will probably stop posting there.
TBH I Don't care about reddit now, I'm more into lemmy or squabble now. If its user base grows or declines I Don't care, I'm out of reddit and I'm not going back.
for me it was learning there was somewhere else to go.
Reddit has been garbage for a long time that if you dont argee exactly with someone with a little bit of power you get kicked out of subreddits
The final warning was enough to cause the moderators for r/Military—a forum partly devoted to helping veterans—to stop operating as a NSFW subreddit. “We are now stuck in a difficult position as we do not want the community to die,” the moderator team wrote.
I dont know what everyone was expecting. Enduring nonsensical rules, shitty working conditions and incompetent authority figures is about the most military thing there is.
Fr. Surprises me that military personnel of all people would be so fragile. Don't give in. Post "hey we're moving to Lemmy, see you there" and fucking go. It's 2023 going to a new site is the easiest thing in the world, it's not like 1999 where most of the forum would have difficulty doing that..
I don't think that's fair. People can come here if they want. They can hate Reddit if they want. Let's not demonize communities that decided to reopen is best for their community. It doesn't need to be some judgement "Fuck everyone who didn't come to here".
It's cowardly to make a stand against the admins and then just roll over when they tell you to sit down and shut up. Doesn't matter if it's Reddit or anywhere else.
Agreed. I’m actually really enjoying the filter right now. I mean, I want reddit to fall apart too, but I am more interested in lemmy succeeding, and they are different wants.
I mean, they've got their priorities right. It's reddit's fault that they're killing their own communities. We should try to reach out in subs like this and help them set up on lemmy.
Another thing I never see anyone in US is talking about: If US veterans need so much help (and they really do), what is happening to people in counties they were fighting against? And those are not only soldiers, but whole families. Everyone ober there has witnessed same shit they did, kids, elders, moms...
"Developed" countries see "undeveloped" countries (or whatever euphemism you want to use) as Others. We may be the target of their charity or of their pity sometimes, but we remain a mysterious monolith. I'm reminded of that whenever someone says "The US is [generally something bad] among developed countries".
I'm not angry about it. I get it. I still wish it wasn't that way.
As trivia, at least one "undeveloped" country has universal healthcare.
I've been hanging around on /r/StreetFighter since the SF6 beta dropped, and I honestly just wish they'd freaking move to Lemmy already or something. I dunno what other forums even exist for the fighting game community at this point outside of Reddit :(
The grand majority of reddit users have more in common with tictok users than forum users. The lowest common denominator is the biggest user base.
They doom scroll and satisfy their addiction, many are kids, they really don't really care about information manipulation, quality content, discussion quality....etc
So they will stay, and the niche groups, those that care and contribute in quality ways, tend to be pushed out.
I think it sure is interesting that data vampires exist but that they also don't care about the quality of their food.
I bet there are hundreds or maybe thousands of these data vampires on here right now scrolling and searching for the text and image based content they use to sustain themselves.
The only thing reddit cant do it stop people just not using reddit. All these protests really arent that effective as people leaving reddit and going elsewhere (hopefully lemmy tho.)
I’ve been gone for 15 days. I opened old.reddit a few times to see if the protests were working.
I haven’t gone on there at all in days and I’m fine with it. A little sad about it, but I’m fine with it.
Things keep getting better here and there aren’t so many people that having a discussion is like playing the lottery. Whatever I say, someone responds here. Someone sees it.
That’s nice. I’d like to see it grow, but not so much that everything you say gets lost in the noise.
I'm past that hump as well. I was "protesting" and spreading the word through June on there, but when RiF stopped I stopped visiting the site except as a result of Google searches for specific things.
I don't even really care what happens now over there, I'll feel a bit of Schadenfreude the day I hear they're going under but I don't care to follow the day to day of what's happening.
It's also not going to be a quick process, it's been going down the drain for years already and it'll be many more years before it's "dead".
Gotta love the ones that are actually NSFW that they want changed to not. Naked selfies is pretty much the tip of the iceberg with Cyberpunk, with a lot of gore and violence and sex underneath. And there's some truly fucked up shit that I don't even want to describe that's there too, as a side quest continuation of main story events.
I only go to Reddit now because of one or two forums that don't exist on here yet, But the more I see stories like this, the more I'm inclined to just say screw it and nuke my account.
Honestly, at this point, my plan is to nuke my account. The only communities on their that I really check that aren't on here have devolved into mindless rage-bait. Probably a so-long and good riddance situation.
Do it. I did it when BaconReader stopped working, if they're not going to do the bare minimum of caring about their users I'm not doing the bare minimum of caring about my content on their platform. It also makes it easy to not use it again.
I just got the data packet I requested from my 10+ year old account. I'm going to try downloading/opening it tomorrow, and if it works (I really want to see what I was talking about 10 years ago) I'm out.
I encourage others to do the same! I've heard that you should nuke all your high value posts and comments by editing them to just "." before deleting, to ensure there's no contribution even if reddit restores the data, which is apparently something they've started to do.
There's a schedule I rely on that gets posted on Reddit, but I just stay logged out and see it that way. I've asked on their Discord if they'd also post it on Lemmy or Mastodon, but they haven't replied. It's a very slow Discord though.
I haven't nuked my account yet simply because I think it could do some good. I was a power user and I went back in and pinned a note to the top of my profile telling people to come to Lemmy. So anyone who looks me up, and I frequently got responses in months-old threads, so that's not impossible, will see that. If it convinces even a couple of people, it's worth it.
I did something similar to that with my Twitter account, that and while I stopped using it in November of last year I didn't want to delete it right away in the off chance that things changed and it got better. But after a few months I figured anyone that wanted to find me on Mastodon would have found me and Twitter wasn't any better, so I hit the nuke button. I get ya'.
We should direct everyone on Reddit to Lemmy. Then, (this is copy pasted, I'm not a bot) add an option to the third party apps for Lemmy so you can opt in to ads that support your instance and the platform. Force me to use your bullshit app so you can make more money? Fuck you. I came here from Reddit. But I'd opt in to ads to support something that is clearly better.
Oh those evil sexy sexy ads.....what was I talking about? Oh yeah follow me on onlyfanz, I'm doing a special right now. Boob raitings for only $0.00, Act now while supplies last!
And it would be on me if I want to donate money, or via ads or nothing at all.
After that we can see if that is enough or more active approach is needed.
We can even have an opt-in for NSFW ads, which would probably make more money. Most of the time I don't mind, it is just important that I can switch it off.
my fear is that instances started competing just to gain more money, because the donations are enough to cover the costs(i think was the adin of lemmy.world that said so), maybe if someone pay to the admin their product i guess it's gonna work
That would be a great way to generate revenue! All of the NSFW posts pretty much anywhere are just ads anyway, can't see the harm in letting more ads come in.
Speaking of that, a community/ies made of authentic NSFW content would also be refreshing. I feel like "real" people that would share their NSFW are 1: Always drowned out by 10/10 OF models. They post and see they only had 4 upvotes compared to OF models getting thousands and become disheartened against posting again. Also, would be cool if they, the real, non 1%er NSFW posters could have their own space and an actual chance to be seen. Personally I don't find the supposed "10/10's" with fillers, fake boobs etc. Attractive at all. I really don't.
Let me see some ACTUAL amateurs. How are you an amateur with an OF raking in thousands+ while using a professional camera setup, someone to film, a team posting your comment etc?
Who in their right mind considers them as amateurs? Pamela Anderson?
Super difficult finding "real" people nowadays. Personally, the content I filmed myself of a few exes is 1000× more alluring to me than anything on the major sites bc it's.. real.
Something about a person doing it for $ instead of just being a perv like the rest of us takes all of the fun out of it for me.
Technically amateur generally just means independent in a lot of contexts or not trained. But yeah i get your point, a lot of OF content feels like the porn equivalent of mass produced cheap knives to me. Like i guess its fine for a 20 dollar knife, but my hundred dollar K bar is infinetly nicer and my 10 buck flea market knife made out of a burnt out car body at the flea market is more interesting.
This is what fucks me off so bad. Tell me what I'm worth as a datapoint, and if I want to pay that directly to be left the fuck alone I should be able to.
So much this. I suspect there’s an issue around opt out making the platforms less appealing to advertisers. The people with disposable income to spend opting out of ads, might be exactly the ones advertisers want to reach.
I tried to use reddit and their official app for the last two days before today just to see how actually bad it was. It was nice seeing the communities that I had grown to frequent for the last 12 years. However:
I deleted that shit after the 5th "hegetsus" ad that I saw this morning. Fuck that shit and fuck that shit hard. Like, way to know your audience lmao. Never touching that app again.
It doesn't help our adoption that supposedly pro-fediverse people are purposefully not recommending Lemmy on Mastodon posts because they don't like a community or some developer that works on lemmy
ads gonna make people want to everyone in their instance, and btw the donations are enought to pay of the for the server(as lemmy.world admin said) and a few thousand more just to him
No pinning please, pinned posts on Reddit got out of control and is an eyesore that still pisses a small part of me off, when I have to click or scroll that tiny bit more to get to the content I actually read.
It's interesting, the fakeness in porn is so conspicuous. I wonder if this sense of faking-it-for-money is a component that is actually conditional to viewing pleasure for sadists and misogynists, and maybe it's an indication that there are more people out there with those predilections than we might like to think.
I’ve heard and have no source for this, but most of the bigger porn subreddits were basically run by people who had a ton of money trying to push their own content to the top to generate revenue.
Makes sense considering how 99% of the porn accounts had titles such as "WHOEVER LIKES THIS WILL GET SOMETHING FREE IN THEIR INBOX, TRY ME!"
Like damn, thousands of porn accounts made posts like this. Obviously they all hired spam companies to do it for them but what kind of ad company can't take the time to even learn the basics about the website they're advertising on? Really amazed me how few of the accounts seemed to actually be human, and even if human absolutely not the content creators themselves
Dude porn was working fine on rif untill like yesterday, i have a moded reddit app but i still refuse to use it. As a side note lemmymsfw is starting to be a good replacement (atleast for me).
I find it sad for all the useful information on that website
( which, if you come across, do repost it on a lemmy community! ) and the subreddits dedicated to helping others out. It would be great if we could build that on the fediverse, but I can imagine wanting to reach as many people as possible when you're helping out veterans for example.
I was wondering about this, whether just taking some of my interresting or more sucesfull posts and discussions and reposting them to lemmy communities, maybe even summarizing the best comments from Reddit, would be a worthwhile endeavor. If so, it would be best to not do it at once, but gradually over the next weeks or months.
But you are right, I'll definitely do that for obscure questions I had that were answered in a helpful way, so I can finally start writing "lemmy" instead of "reddit" after every google search.
I did it when I was looking up information about lore books from a video game and someone posted all the books as PDF's in a comment 4 years ago. Thought that was a great example of something I could repost!
This is hubris is really good for the fediverse. I had a relatively piddly account at only 80,000 in karma but I I still closed my account. Good riddance to that last piece of corporate social media. The next thing I want to see is something similar to Pinterest in the fediverse space but it may end up being redunant.
It's funny that they think they can't be replaced. It will take a while but 5 years from now Reddit will be the MySpace of social news of they don't stop bullying their users.
Five years is too generous, I think. At the end of the day, Reddit is just a forum and forums aren't profitable. Unlike the time of the Digg migration, the technology and platform have been commoditized.
So let the admins have to figure out new mods for all these huge subs. It'll be a shit show. Either they'll have to pay internal people or they'll get people that can't mod for shit.
Also with BotDefense leaving Reddit, whoever takes up the modding duties will have a much harder time moderating overall. They'll be less experienced, less invested in the community, and have a much harder time moderating.
Plus, I view those mods as spineless for caving the protest and making it possible for spez to boot the original mods simply to "keep the content coming"
Mfer there's the literal entirety of the internet available, your precious TIFU can wait a few weeks, everything is okay.
I've been thinking this. I get that reddit is a huge platform, but that's exactly why we should let them figure out their own mess. It's not our problem.
I just got my data takeout request granted (110 MB) yesterday, so time to follow up with a GDPR request to then nuke everything. It's the only way to make sure.
And this is how I find out that my permanent suspension from Reddit- no reason given- from last week has magically reversed itself. Too late now. Fuck them.
They should just migrate to other platforms or join us. I don’t understand why would they stay on a website hostile to its users like this. They want to protest on the same platform that is the source of the problem…
I think the next step is to announce privatization of subreddits. Take a week to get all active members approved and then go private until they take the protests seriously or the site just stops growing and dies off
Then the admins will just override them and force the subs public. They’ll also remove the mods and appoint new ones. The only thing anyone can do is stop posting and leave.
But at least we are doing everything we can to inform everyone about what’s going on, why it’s bad, and why we’re upset. We also let them know that there’s a place to go where we can rebuild what’s lost.
They’ll also remove the mods and appoint new ones.
This assumes that A. There will be anyone willing to do the job at this point and further B. Anyone that actually does want the job won't use it for their own gain or otherwise put their thumb on the scale and make the sub less appealing anyways.
Moderating large subreddits is a ton of work, chances are the people willing to do that work are already doing it and will thus either be part of the ones being removed or to busy with their current workload elsewhere. I mean it’s basicly a unpaid volunteer job that doesn’t benefit your resume, doesn’t exactly sound like something people stand in line for.
Oh man I wish you were right but the line to mod subreddits is so long. Go check out r/redditrequest, there are so many people asking to take mod spots.
Moderators there are volunteers, responsible for curating the content that users post... The mods just need to limit their responsibility and only enforce the site-wide rules.
Allow their subs to devolve to shitposts and memes.
Reddit is already dead. It just might be a few years before Spez and co figure it out.
After the blackout, it seems the Admin sent out a generic message to mods of every private sub giving them a deadline to reopen, regardless of whether that sub had already been private prior to any talk of a blackout. Examples give in this post.
Admins think NSFW means sexually explicit? Wrong it means Not Safe For Work, so gaming subs qualify. Entertainment subs, especially swimsuits or violent topics qualify.
It is hard to give up on Reddit because of they have the size/traffic advantage. If enough activity occurs on platforms like this over time, more will be tempted to jump ship.
I would add that the explosion of third party apps is going to be huge as well. The whole decentralized/multiple instance can be a bit challenging for some. Giving use an app that behaves like the old Reddit apps will ease the transition.
They should add an option to the third party apps for Lemmy to enable ads that support your instance and the platform. Force me to use your bullshit app so you can make more money? Fuck you. But I'd opt in to ads to support something that is clearly better.
People downvote cause seeing ads is annoying, but IMO, if it is done tastefully it is the only viable way to pay for the infrastructure, and it would prevent a collapse of the system.
Or simply allow people to donate to their instances. Why does everything have to be done through ads?
My home instance put up a donation request because they had to upgrade the servers. They got enough money to cover costs for the rest of the year in less than a week.
Reddit used to do the same thing, have donations to cover costs. Ads are evil, and as a society we should be pushing back against them, not encouraging them at every opportunity.
PayPal is a no-no from me too. I've given them so many chances. When I was younger I once sold everything of value I had on eBay in order to purchase a microphone & headphones to record music. Upon payment, PayPal immediately froze my account for 6 months and wouldn't give me access to the funds. I was flat broke and had actually gone into the hole even deeper by paying to send off all of the packages, expecting to get the $ from the items asap. Those were my last dollars. Didn't even have gas $ to get to work. So PayPal froze the $300 ish I was supposed to get and I lost my job. Then for 6 months couldn't sell anything else, why would I? They'd taken everything OR be paid and it really fucked me up. Called them constantly and did everything they asked to verify but it still took 6 months of waiting after I'd done everything I needed to. After that I didn't use them for many years. Finally tried again and had similar issues fuck PayPal.
We need to be boycotting ads. If it's not for a vital service don't push it in my face. Ads are a damn plague and the internet was better before they permeated it.
Everyone that was on the internet pre-2010 knows this. What amazes me is some have been brainwashed to support them.
Commented about how YouTube should revert and become ad free once. People dogpiled me with "then how would it run?!"
Idk, how did it ever run before implementing ads?
How did.. almost any site get by before ads? Donations or just not being "big" enough to require so much. If you have a good site that people value they will pay for it.
If you're trying to sell something that no one really wants? Well that's why we have ads now isn't it? Companies trying to sell some bs no one asked for.
I literally only use Reddit for porn, and whilst Relay was working and still is, I get a warning that this isn't possible unless I use the official app, or the website... All my mobile usage from Reddit has pretty much disappeared.
They should have back tracked, but doubling down is a death sentence for me. They can keep having posts, but 99% of them are already reposts from other sites - Reddit as a whole may as well be a combined Facebook style echo chamber and Tik Tok archive, because these days it doesn't feel like it's much else.
I use Pornhub like a regular person. I’m not gonna get off to some 15 second gif or go browsing through someone’s profile to see the same video reposted in 30 different subs
I used it for other stuff but when porn popped up on my feed I'd often forget about that other stuff and go down a rabbit hole of "damn, she's bad af! Anymore of her?" And whatnot
I ONLY did that bc Boost had a handy download button and made it super simple to collect the videos I liked. Before that I never used redshit for porn as when I jack it I just go to the hub or w/e as redshit's format regarding porn is too inconsistent for my liking. I'm picky, and will only find about 1 out every 50 women to be my type regardless of sub.
Just wasn't worth wasting my time on. However, with the download ability? If a baddie popped up I'd go through the profile and put the best videos in the spank bank to jack it to later.
Now Boost is dead. I hate the official app with a passion. Wouldn't use it if it were excellent bc of the huge "F YOU!" The site gave me and really doubt they've even implemented the download feature to the official app yet.
Hilarious how it took them so long to add a download feature. For many years i'd constantly see people tagging the video downloader bot or whatever or asking "where can I download?" And thought it was crazy that redshit and so many apps STILL hadn't implemented an easy download function when Boost has had it since day 1 of my use and always been so damn simple
This is the problem with people that think in terms of being "management". Management will always have an adversarial relationship with everyone else in an organization simply because they think they have to. The longer they stay in those positions the worse it gets.
Best idea I’ve seen so far is to comply - and let the nsfw posts just keep on coming. Show the advertisers how their ads are being shown next to nsfw, and see how that goes.
I can understand that mods of communities like r/Military feel that they have a duty to serve their community and are worried about no longer being able to do so, unless they comply to the Reddit diktat. But there is an alternative they should embrace - come and join us on lemmy! You can build your community again, in a much safer haven.
I didn't get any! I got it for the Private sub before. I demand my blackmail from modcodeofconduct. I should send some "FuckYouSpezs" around and see what happens. If anyone from Reddit monitors this, the sub in question is /r/mushing
I'm always between 2 perspectives, one side says to just make their wish come true and allows them to bring paid workers to do the mod work. But then comes the other one that says, there is always someone to want that 15 minutes of glory/power or whatever and will do all the stuff for free.
In either case I think it's not an easy job, and any side will affect Reddit, at least in the short time, people tends to go with the flow, and unless big "old" players (As Sync, Boost, Apollo) or "new" players ( Jerboa, Connect, Memmy) makes other alternatives as easy as it was Reddit, they will stay there.
For instance for me, not been in a centralized server raise questions like where to check in in a community like Aww, Pics, Comics, why there is world, ml or XYZ instances, what's going on ... So, for non tech people all of this will be as intimidating as it was for me, I think.
There is a lot of information about the war on Mastodon. It might be enough for you if you want to take a look. #Ukraine and #UkraineWar are both worth looking into.
They can, but Reddit can just as easily restore it, with a blank mod list. But based on their actions I wouldn't be surprised if they outright ban any mods that try this.
Speaks to the general fragile ego of the mods of these protesting subs that they are mostly caving to Reddit’s threats rather than just walking away. Two of the three mentioned subs in that article reverted back “for the community.”
I just have to laugh.
Fuck reddit! I'm here now!
Right? The first few days I was worried it just wouldn’t be the same, but the slower upload of content here has made me browse when I want to without over browsing endlessly. The less active comment sections means I can interact with more people without being buried…it’s just better. And I’m excited to see it grow
I think I’ve been afraid to comment on Reddit because I assume no one will read it or I won’t have anything novel to say. But I definitely agree that I like the smaller community here
Quality has been dramatically better here than Reddit has been for many years. Finding people actually discussing the post in the comments is rare on Reddit, you have to sift through endless lines of off topic puns and memes being promoted by bots for karma farming. The goal of comments on Reddit is to be funny, not interesting or useful. The fediverse is more like Reddit eight or nine years ago, when they were figuring out their control algorithms, building their own bot network to game their own site (remember the subreddit where the reddit-built bots used to exclusively talk with each other for practice? I wonder what those bots are doing today...), and learning how to control the flow of information on their page while also finally making some things more stable.
I'm really curious if any parts of the fediverse can avoid the same pitfalls that Reddit eagerly jumped into. It's probably doubtful since once the advertisers get here, greed will win. It always does. But maybe.
I agree with you: I think decline of a site is an inevitability, especially after advertising is needed due to increased traffic.
But I personally don’t need Lemmy or anywhere else to be permanent, since what I get out of it is either transient (scrolling for memes and things that pique my interest) or meaningful enough that it remains with me, meaning enjoyable or thought provoking discussions.
Granted, I’d rather alternative sites not go tits up in rapid succession while the shuffling corpse they’re trying to ape continues to slog on mindlessly, but keeping the impermanence in mind makes it easier to see these places as areas to congregate rather than the end to surfing the web in general.
Am I the only one that’s browsing every…instance? (I’m still not sure if that’s the right word. Every community within Lemmy.world) just for the sake of having newer posts to peruse? Or are you all in active enough communities that your subscribed communities are offering up new enough content regularly enough to just browse those?
Oh I’m always in the All section. Still kinda wrapping my head around instances as a concept: mentally I think if it as a single room with a ton of cubicles.
I treat subscriptions more like bookmarks: communities that I want to come back to specifically, but I don’t just browse them. It’s more like going to a grocery store and being sure to get the staples but not ignoring the rest of the aisles. How else am I going to find a new interest or perspective worth keeping if I don’t look?
I’m browsing all instances, not just communities on Lemmy.World right now. Curating a subscription stack more and more every day. And more importantly, identifying and blocking communities I never want to see in my /all/ feed. It’s been great so far.
I’m not sure if I’m just browsing Lemmy.world. Still getting the hang of what instance/servers/communities/etc that I’m interacting with.
Yeah, the nomadic life does sound pretty appealing at this time. I've learned over the years that nothing lasts forever, and this situation is showing that things don't necessarily stay good for as long as they do last. What's new and great eventually becomes old and tired (including us ourselves), but there's probably still other new and great things out there (though we might actually see the end of that during our lifetimes, what with the end of the world looming).
I'll hang out here for a while until I stop liking it, then I'll probably hang out for a bit longer and then look around elsewhere.
I'm all for trying to be funny in comments for sure, but make it relevant to the topic and for fuck sake make it original. Spamming the same tired jokes and memes isn't adding to the conversation.
This has been my biggest complaint. Wanna read the discussion? Be prepared to dig for it. It's awful.
The largest thing I've noticed right now is there's almost no new content. Like at all. There was some repeating but not like right now.
I'm a mod and almost none of the small subs I mod for are transitioning off of reddit as yet.
I do need to learn to mod here....
Amen to that! I'm not a super prolific poster here either, but compared to reddit I'm WAY more active, and it feels mre fun too. In 15 years on reddit I have only made 2 threads as far as I can remember, but on Lemmy (and Squabbles) I've been sharing my house plants recently and it feels great!
Yes, the community is much smaller, but also much kinder,and I the average age feels higher here too (I have zero data on it, but just judging by the writing style it feels like there's a whole bunch of people roughly my age (40+) around these parts).
Yeah I definitely have the tendency to over estimate how old the people I’m talking to online are, but I agree that everyone here feels more like an adult lol
Quality over quantity everytime for me.
On top of that, I feel far more incentive to comment, upvote, and just generally engage here.
Overall this feels like a less hostile environment, without the clickish groupthink that had an army of bots or trolls out to downvote you.
People have mentioned the higher complexity of getting set up on instances as a barrier to entry for the masses. I say wonderful. I'll take a small community of diverse, engaged people over the mobs of span, trolls, and parrots.
Leaving reddit for lemmy feels like finding a nice person who cares after being in along abusive relationship. Never realised how bad it was, or how good it could be.
Is it temporary? Who knows, but I'd rather spend my time making this into what I want then ever looking back.
Yeah, it’s nice to feel like I’m contributing something as opposed to trying to muscle my way into a conversation that doesn’t need 10,000 of the people who are commenting, commenting.
"This!" - 1.4k votes
[Exact same comment being parroted, but with a much more extreme fervor about killing people who disagree] - 600 votes
"Wait. That's not even what the article says. We shouldn't be jumping to conclusions." - "You have been permanently banned from large subreddit."
That's an interesting POV I hadn't really considered before. I'll probably go to Reddit when I need some kind of niche info on something, but stick to Lemmy for just discussion and general time killing, which was my main use for Reddit anyway.
It's a shame how shabbily reddit's board and u/spez (and his lackeys) have treated reddit's users and mods. They benefited enormously from free content and hours of unpaid moderation, yet they chose to throw it all away.
If Reddit goes down, what articles will pcmag decide to write about then?
And what will people post on lemmy about?
I mean sure posts about Reddit makes us seem like the bitter ex, but they are to be expected, since it's the only thing all Lemmy users have in common: Being ex-Redditors. It will stop naturally with time.
Although, on Reddit we were always talking about musk and Twitter. Dumpster fires when the AIC (asshole in charge) deserves the harm coming to their profits and their website, it’s newsworthy and juicy content.
Although I do agree that it will slow to a trickle and then eventually stop. Not because the content stops being interesting to us, but because reffit will ultimately probably win in the end, they’re IPO will be profitable, they’ll continue down this enshittification road until FB make a Reddit competitor and then everyone that didn’t care about the API thing because they were too busy watching reruns of the Big Bang theory will move there. It’s the circle of tech life, eventually fb will own the internet
Though if Twitter goes under, I'm sure Facebook will have a hard time explaining why they aren't a monopoly. That has been taken seriously before.
Has it? In the last 30 years? White collar/corporate malfeasance enforcement has dropped like a fucking landslide in the 21st century.
@MarcellusDrum @Polydextrous Except that FB and Twitter technically occupy different markets
It was the same with Digg on reddit back in the day. Like you say, it'll die down.
Lemmy is already busy complaining about meta
Don't worry we'll find something
I found a cool rock while I was on a walk this week edit: my dudes you're going to have to give me time to go back there it was a pretty big rock
B.S., I demand a picture.
I second this, you can't just claim that you found a cool rock without proving said rock is cool.
I, too, wish to see the alleged rock.
Alleged rock or allegedly cool rock? IOW, are you questioning the rock's coolness or its existence? Both are valid.
Both! If it exists I'm sure it's cool
He's holding out content, let's get him!
Pics or it didn’t happen.
Post the rock. Please I need it
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Just leaving additional peer pressure here. WE WANT PICS!
Hilarious! You gotta admit though, it's kind of like Watching Pawn Stars on the History Channel. Like wtf is this?
Elon and Mark.
Beans, apparently.
Probably things posted here, except they’ll have some trouble sorting out the instancing stuff at first
I got quotes by a PC gamer article after commenting about a random , obscure battlefield rip off was announced for steam a couple of months ago.
I was very surprised upon finding it after a username google.
Thanks….I guess?! My comment was just a random nothing burger (well what’s changed there). Well done ‘journalists’!
They can always rely on AI-written shitpost articles.
RIP EmKay videos lol
Honestly I've been addicted to reddit for several years, and it even had negative consequences for my life. When I was depressed I just used reddit all day and became obsessed with the subreddit moderated. I deleted that account and now I'm in a much better place but that constant urge to open reddit is still there.
Before July 1 my reddit usage was around 2 hours every day, now it's been 0 for 5 days.
So I'd like to Thank Reddit admins for this.
I used reddit for 11 years, founded multiple subreddits, and was a head mod on even more. I had over 150,000 karma. I spent hours a day for over decade in that shithole. I recently walked away. My account still lives but it is no longer a mod of any sub and I have deleted every single comment I ever made. I struggle every day to stay off reddit.
Happy for you friend! I also went from a few hours a day to nothing. Wasn't trying to improve myself, it was just out of sheer rage at how things were being done over there. Any time I would log in I would feel self hatred and just end up making lengthy comments about spez being an asshole.
Question, have you tried replacing the hobby? I've found hiking and writing - (writing lyrics/other things as I hike/walk) to provide even more enjoyment than I was getting online 24/7
I got banned for wrong-think (essentially talking back to a sub mod) and it greatly improved my mental health not being able to call out the absolutely driveling imbeciles that populate reddit. It just made me not care anymore.
And yes reddit admins will ban you if you respond to sub mods to complain
They ban permanently for all kinds of bs. Felt like walking on eggshells at that place.
Didn't help that I wasn't 100% "left" - ironically I did lean left but if you're not 100% emphatically regurgitating all of the talking points they're currently recycling they gang up on you, mass report, call for mods, twist words etc.
Last month a mod flipped out and called me a Nazi bc I commented that it's bogus that mods blanket ban everyone that stumbles on and comments any sub that they dissaprove of.
Their logic was that if I comment on a conservative sub (Nazi?) Then that absolutely makes me a Nazi and there's absolutely no grey area or context.
That seems to be what most of the communities in some subs is like as well. If you're not high fiving them, you're shooting at them.
I don't like it.. I miss the old days of the internet, sure we all argued and shit but everyone at least had their little factions. Now it feels like the left runs the entire internet because most sites don't want Republicans there.
I get why but it sucks feeling like I don't belong on either side. I'm apolitical, which in itself has sparked a dozen redshit arguments and accusations. Can't say "apolitical" you're just secretly a centrist if you do. Can't disagree with BOTH sides because neither can fathom that. Can't sympathize with a single "red" point of view bc you're a Nazi.
Ugh.
Cringetopia (the sub) branched off and made a website. Loved that place. Unfortunately the subs own userbase hates the chAnge and boycotted the site, also running smear campaigns and bs saying the site was only in it for the money via ad revenue even though the site owners had paid out of their own pockets for the servers and there wasn't a single ad..
Loved that site :(
It is interesting that this is your experience, but I can say that this is objectively not true. Especially if you're on social media and not logged in, the content has a far right bias, there's often at least one recommended video which goes in that direction. About twitter was one study that twitter systematically preferred right-wing content… before Elon bought it. And I mean, everyone knows about Facebook.
The fascist Bolsonaro (he literally said the dictatorship was Brazil's best time and that its only mistake was to not torture enough; you gotta agree he's a literal fascist) movement just won the presidential elections because of Facebook and social media. It is a massive system driving people especially to a far-right extreme.
What I can say about "Can’t disagree with BOTH sides because neither can fathom that." is well… I mean, yeah, if you disagree with both, both probably won't like that haha. But there is one problem to disagree with both sides if one side of them is e.g. literally trying to eradicate trans people, trying to deny them their existence, discriminate, etc., and also literally trying to undermine democracy and overthrow elections and is actively restricting who is able to vote, and the other one… isn't.
I can understand if someone financially benefits from Republicans, or is business-friendly or such, but criticising both as in that both are the same amount of bad is just wrong and harmful, because we just got to the point where only one side got completely off all norms and in an antidemocratic and borderline genocidal.
(And for the record: I'm not a US-American. I am certainly not a fan of the US Democratic party. And I do think that of course it's good to criticise everyone who does bad stuff, and to point that out.)
I don't support Republicans going against trans people or messing with abortion, to be honest I think they should keep their nose out of our personal choices and leave us be.
But I don't like the left either.
It's not "left vs. right" - that's just how it's framed to us. The U.S government is fucked up on all levels and both sides have done heinous things and kept us divided throughout history.
I truly believe that's all the two party system is, division. Ever listened to "Binaural beats"? Where they play for example a lower frequency in one ear, but a higher frequency in the other. I don't remember the exact method so pardon if I'm Rusty but basically the end result is we hear and are tuned to the frequency in between the two, low and high, sounds.
To me that's what the two party system reminds me of. One party outrages and destroys certain liberties or whatever. The other party fights back and the result is whatever they want it to be.
I just want to do away with all of it. Remove every part of the government that isn't directly benefitting our quality of life and start over.
If you view reddit in incognito or on a VPN, the front page absolutely, 100 percent has the most hard far left slant possible. Half the front page posts are from whitepeopletwitter which has the collective personality of a meth-ed up AOC crossed with Stalin
Well, I was generally talking about social media, and for Youtube, Facebook, Twitter it was all the other side. To be fair, I do not know about Reddit (haven't read any studies about it and are personally not enough in that sphere), so I could imagine it to be the outlier. Besides that, this comment does not respond to any of my arguments or talking points.
Not left? Banned. Not far left? Banned. Not authleft? Banned.
I was banned from subreddits more often for opposing the open advocation of totalitarianism than anything else.
I guess some of that has come over here based on your comment scores, but at least your comments aren't being removed 🤷♀️ I haven't been downvoting anything here based on disagreement cause a) I think discouraging people from sharing their opinions here will kill the site, even if you don't like their opinions and b) I think it's wrong anyway.
I hope the extreme polarization and just general toxicity doesn't last here. I get that Reddit is perfectly designed to split people into tribes, and I hope that's not true of this site as well.
I agree entirely. Just because I might not agree with someone on their politics doesn't mean we can't have a civil discussion, especially regarding apolitical topics
the only thing I miss about reddit is how much more diversity it had. cause let's face it, there just isn't as much content here. it's also how I stayed caught up on current events
that's a good point. I'll probably do my part and post a bunch just to fill stuff up a little more
I put a time management app on my phone for that. After 5 minutes, reddit was blocked for an hour. Max time on app, 30 minutes a day.
Holy shit your username brought back memories. I wonder what K.A.Applegate is up to these days.
Yeah, they also cured my addiction
It's a shame because there's so much good stuff on the site. (So much bad stuff, too, don't get me wrong.) All that stuff is looking more and more likely to go up in smoke.
I'm disappointed how few subreddits are daring to call their bluff, or put their full weight behind migrating. It's clear they actually aren't able to replace moderators that easily.
r/interestingasfuck still doesn't have moderators. It's been closed for 18 days now.
not so easily to find free labor when you bully them right u/spez
Seriously. I never want to hear how hard it is to mod a subreddit with existing mod tools again. They've rolled over for spez (which is their right) and they don't get to complain about it anymore.
It's for the reason you names that I'm extra disappointed in the mods that "stepped up".
“We are now stuck in a difficult position as we do not want the community to die”
Feels to me like they dug their own grave and now complain that the user's are problem.
What are they expecting after they remove moderators and remove the nsfw status? That the users keep posting? They aren't dumb and I could imagine that some or most people will probably stop posting there.
or else what? They'll bring in paid moderators to do an actual job?
It's amazing how fast Reddit went from my favorite place to be online to a trash heap
It's somehow worse than ifunny
Reddit admins writing warning letters like I title project files. lastlastLASTFINAL-v1.3forreal.doc warning
Fuck Reddit
"This is your final warning, please migrate to FOSS platforms"
TBH I Don't care about reddit now, I'm more into lemmy or squabble now. If its user base grows or declines I Don't care, I'm out of reddit and I'm not going back.
Reddit are past the point of no return for me. They could reverse all their API changes but I'm not going back. They've show their true colours.
For me it was the CEO's comments.
🤌 For me it was the advocating for death of delivery drivers (poor people)
Wait what?
What was that about?
Basically just "Why I got to tip poor people 🤬"
Weird stuff showing up on popular that ain't right. Albeit I thread comments by controversial when possible
Yep. Duck those ducking duckers. I'm out.
I'm thinking your name should be Dr. Peking. And I'm not sure why.
for me it was learning there was somewhere else to go. Reddit has been garbage for a long time that if you dont argee exactly with someone with a little bit of power you get kicked out of subreddits
Cowards.
I dont know what everyone was expecting. Enduring nonsensical rules, shitty working conditions and incompetent authority figures is about the most military thing there is.
Fr. Surprises me that military personnel of all people would be so fragile. Don't give in. Post "hey we're moving to Lemmy, see you there" and fucking go. It's 2023 going to a new site is the easiest thing in the world, it's not like 1999 where most of the forum would have difficulty doing that..
I don't think that's fair. People can come here if they want. They can hate Reddit if they want. Let's not demonize communities that decided to reopen is best for their community. It doesn't need to be some judgement "Fuck everyone who didn't come to here".
That's fair. It still makes them cowards though, word definitions don't change because we want harmony.
It's cowardly to make a stand against the admins and then just roll over when they tell you to sit down and shut up. Doesn't matter if it's Reddit or anywhere else.
Agreed. I’m actually really enjoying the filter right now. I mean, I want reddit to fall apart too, but I am more interested in lemmy succeeding, and they are different wants.
I mean, they've got their priorities right. It's reddit's fault that they're killing their own communities. We should try to reach out in subs like this and help them set up on lemmy.
Did you wear the uniform? What are you doing to help prevent the 22 suicides a day among our service members?
This is what the military subs have had to weigh when making these calls.
I have met people who was in the service enough to know the struggle is real.
It's just hard to believe that they depend on Reddit for their support system.
Unfortunately if they are US service personnel this would not be hard to believe at all.
Why only US?
Presumably other countries actually give a fuck about helping their soldiers.
That is a false presumption. Overall compared to most countries the VA is not bad
Most countries that don't have universal health care, you mean.
Yes, did you?
Nope, just a civilian, but married to a career Soldier.
They can pack it up and move here where they won’t be pushed around like pawns. It’s be pretty easy to leave instructions on how to migrate.
I did not, although my father did. It's pretty grandiose to claim that a subreddit is helping prevent military suicides.
What's the MILITARY doing to prevent the 22 suicides a day?
Not enough. Still too much stigma attached to behavioral health.
That's why there is so much need for additional support from elsewhere.
So it’s everyone else’s responsibility to protect people subjected to Israeli wars by the lapdog US government?
Another thing I never see anyone in US is talking about: If US veterans need so much help (and they really do), what is happening to people in counties they were fighting against? And those are not only soldiers, but whole families. Everyone ober there has witnessed same shit they did, kids, elders, moms...
"Developed" countries see "undeveloped" countries (or whatever euphemism you want to use) as Others. We may be the target of their charity or of their pity sometimes, but we remain a mysterious monolith. I'm reminded of that whenever someone says "The US is [generally something bad] among developed countries".
I'm not angry about it. I get it. I still wish it wasn't that way.
As trivia, at least one "undeveloped" country has universal healthcare.
Least ignorant Redditor.
How does that compare to Lemmywinkers?
Where did they go?
Join us at startrek.website
Lol nice, loving these new domains
They are not new domains. .ml is the domain for Mali. .ee is from estonia. .website is a generic one. There's a whole bunch of them, but you can't just make something up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains
GTLDs are still "new"ish...as in like 2012 lol.
Well uhh, new to me. Felt new in 2012 🤷
I've been hanging around on /r/StreetFighter since the SF6 beta dropped, and I honestly just wish they'd freaking move to Lemmy already or something. I dunno what other forums even exist for the fighting game community at this point outside of Reddit :(
But it isn't. It's growing and it will keep growing. Only a tiny percentage gives a shit about privacy and decentralization.
That said, I already much prefer Lemmy.
"It’s not OK to show people NSFW content when they don’t want to see it,”
You know what else isn't ok!!!!! Fucking over the entire population of reddit users to churn over some short term profits!
I hope spez buys a yacht or something!
People still use Reddit?
The grand majority of reddit users have more in common with tictok users than forum users. The lowest common denominator is the biggest user base.
They doom scroll and satisfy their addiction, many are kids, they really don't really care about information manipulation, quality content, discussion quality....etc
So they will stay, and the niche groups, those that care and contribute in quality ways, tend to be pushed out.
I think it sure is interesting that data vampires exist but that they also don't care about the quality of their food.
I bet there are hundreds or maybe thousands of these data vampires on here right now scrolling and searching for the text and image based content they use to sustain themselves.
They live amongst us.
edit: this is not sarcastic, but playful
They don't know what good food tastes like, so they are content.
Just bots trying to prove the dead internet theory is real.
The only thing reddit cant do it stop people just not using reddit. All these protests really arent that effective as people leaving reddit and going elsewhere (hopefully lemmy tho.)
I’ve been gone for 15 days. I opened old.reddit a few times to see if the protests were working.
I haven’t gone on there at all in days and I’m fine with it. A little sad about it, but I’m fine with it.
Things keep getting better here and there aren’t so many people that having a discussion is like playing the lottery. Whatever I say, someone responds here. Someone sees it.
That’s nice. I’d like to see it grow, but not so much that everything you say gets lost in the noise.
The (48 hour) protests just communicate that u/spez can fuck us over 363 days of the year. The only thing that will work is leaving.
He takes a break on Christmas and New Year's?
I'm past that hump as well. I was "protesting" and spreading the word through June on there, but when RiF stopped I stopped visiting the site except as a result of Google searches for specific things.
I don't even really care what happens now over there, I'll feel a bit of Schadenfreude the day I hear they're going under but I don't care to follow the day to day of what's happening.
It's also not going to be a quick process, it's been going down the drain for years already and it'll be many more years before it's "dead".
I'm just glad I found a new place to call home.
Get back to work or I'm going to give you more free time!
Gotta love the ones that are actually NSFW that they want changed to not. Naked selfies is pretty much the tip of the iceberg with Cyberpunk, with a lot of gore and violence and sex underneath. And there's some truly fucked up shit that I don't even want to describe that's there too, as a side quest continuation of main story events.
Isn’t this the admins like third final warning?
I only go to Reddit now because of one or two forums that don't exist on here yet, But the more I see stories like this, the more I'm inclined to just say screw it and nuke my account.
Honestly, at this point, my plan is to nuke my account. The only communities on their that I really check that aren't on here have devolved into mindless rage-bait. Probably a so-long and good riddance situation.
No one regrets getting banned from digg.
Do it. I did it when BaconReader stopped working, if they're not going to do the bare minimum of caring about their users I'm not doing the bare minimum of caring about my content on their platform. It also makes it easy to not use it again.
Indeed.
I think the entire world should be nuked at this point.
whether quickly, or slowly, by attrition
It's the only way to be sure.
I just got the data packet I requested from my 10+ year old account. I'm going to try downloading/opening it tomorrow, and if it works (I really want to see what I was talking about 10 years ago) I'm out.
I encourage others to do the same! I've heard that you should nuke all your high value posts and comments by editing them to just "." before deleting, to ensure there's no contribution even if reddit restores the data, which is apparently something they've started to do.
There's a schedule I rely on that gets posted on Reddit, but I just stay logged out and see it that way. I've asked on their Discord if they'd also post it on Lemmy or Mastodon, but they haven't replied. It's a very slow Discord though.
I haven't nuked my account yet simply because I think it could do some good. I was a power user and I went back in and pinned a note to the top of my profile telling people to come to Lemmy. So anyone who looks me up, and I frequently got responses in months-old threads, so that's not impossible, will see that. If it convinces even a couple of people, it's worth it.
I did something similar to that with my Twitter account, that and while I stopped using it in November of last year I didn't want to delete it right away in the off chance that things changed and it got better. But after a few months I figured anyone that wanted to find me on Mastodon would have found me and Twitter wasn't any better, so I hit the nuke button. I get ya'.
Id love to know what you wanna see here,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%27s_final_warning
I wonder if public freakouts was told to remove the NSFW tag. That sub definitely should have been NSFW all along.
lol i think reddit is fucked
You think?
Don’t really care what they do anymore tbh.
We should direct everyone on Reddit to Lemmy. Then, (this is copy pasted, I'm not a bot) add an option to the third party apps for Lemmy so you can opt in to ads that support your instance and the platform. Force me to use your bullshit app so you can make more money? Fuck you. I came here from Reddit. But I'd opt in to ads to support something that is clearly better.
No ads, ads are evil.
Feed me a donation link.
And invest the donations to permanently power Lemmy.
Just don't buy into any social media IPO's lol
Id prefer some ads. No objection to then in rif, and let's be honest- everything nsfw or news is an advert in some way.
Oh those evil sexy sexy ads.....what was I talking about? Oh yeah follow me on onlyfanz, I'm doing a special right now. Boob raitings for only $0.00, Act now while supplies last!
I think we should try with opt-in ads.
And it would be on me if I want to donate money, or via ads or nothing at all.
After that we can see if that is enough or more active approach is needed.
We can even have an opt-in for NSFW ads, which would probably make more money. Most of the time I don't mind, it is just important that I can switch it off.
my fear is that instances started competing just to gain more money, because the donations are enough to cover the costs(i think was the adin of lemmy.world that said so), maybe if someone pay to the admin their product i guess it's gonna work
If nsfw ads was a community id probably join it.
That would be a great way to generate revenue! All of the NSFW posts pretty much anywhere are just ads anyway, can't see the harm in letting more ads come in.
Speaking of that, a community/ies made of authentic NSFW content would also be refreshing. I feel like "real" people that would share their NSFW are 1: Always drowned out by 10/10 OF models. They post and see they only had 4 upvotes compared to OF models getting thousands and become disheartened against posting again. Also, would be cool if they, the real, non 1%er NSFW posters could have their own space and an actual chance to be seen. Personally I don't find the supposed "10/10's" with fillers, fake boobs etc. Attractive at all. I really don't.
Let me see some ACTUAL amateurs. How are you an amateur with an OF raking in thousands+ while using a professional camera setup, someone to film, a team posting your comment etc?
Who in their right mind considers them as amateurs? Pamela Anderson?
Super difficult finding "real" people nowadays. Personally, the content I filmed myself of a few exes is 1000× more alluring to me than anything on the major sites bc it's.. real.
Something about a person doing it for $ instead of just being a perv like the rest of us takes all of the fun out of it for me.
Technically amateur generally just means independent in a lot of contexts or not trained. But yeah i get your point, a lot of OF content feels like the porn equivalent of mass produced cheap knives to me. Like i guess its fine for a 20 dollar knife, but my hundred dollar K bar is infinetly nicer and my 10 buck flea market knife made out of a burnt out car body at the flea market is more interesting.
Why not both? If you want to support with donating, cool. If you'd rather support by enabling ads, cool. I can see it might be a slippery slope.
Why can't we just pay them with money? I block every ad I can, because everything is better without ads.
If there is no option for paying outside of using me as a datapoint, I'm going to be a freeloader.
Also, respectfully to all those here gathered, fuck reddit. It's over. It doesn't love us and never did.
This is what fucks me off so bad. Tell me what I'm worth as a datapoint, and if I want to pay that directly to be left the fuck alone I should be able to.
So much this. I suspect there’s an issue around opt out making the platforms less appealing to advertisers. The people with disposable income to spend opting out of ads, might be exactly the ones advertisers want to reach.
That, actually, makes sense, it never crossed my mind.
More than that, it is trackers on which, probably, no one knows how much is worth.
That's what Reddit Premium was for, which I had. No adverts in return for a monthly fee.
I forgot about reddit premium, 14+ years of reddit use are leaving my brain so quickly.
How much did that cost?
Everything
I was paying US$3.95 a month if I remember rightly but I think it's now US$5.95.
I tried to use reddit and their official app for the last two days before today just to see how actually bad it was. It was nice seeing the communities that I had grown to frequent for the last 12 years. However:
I deleted that shit after the 5th "hegetsus" ad that I saw this morning. Fuck that shit and fuck that shit hard. Like, way to know your audience lmao. Never touching that app again.
It doesn't help our adoption that supposedly pro-fediverse people are purposefully not recommending Lemmy on Mastodon posts because they don't like a community or some developer that works on lemmy
ads gonna make people want to everyone in their instance, and btw the donations are enought to pay of the for the server(as lemmy.world admin said) and a few thousand more just to him
i guess the only acceptable is if the admin want to pin some promotion
No pinning please, pinned posts on Reddit got out of control and is an eyesore that still pisses a small part of me off, when I have to click or scroll that tiny bit more to get to the content I actually read.
I just got bored with reddit trying to make money through their users.
i'm still using Reddit for porn, but for other topics i already spend more time on Lemmy. the switch is tough, but they definitely can be replaced.
Even porn looks more boring, not sure if it's just me or content really suffered from all this.
Are you sure it's not a natural result of increasingly depraved fetishes? :D
Gay porn suffered long ago from people just promoting their onlyfans. Annoying af.
That happened to all porn, it got disgusting.
I want to see real people sharing their sexuality, not people faking it for money.
Sincerity, the last thing you still can't buy.
It's interesting, the fakeness in porn is so conspicuous. I wonder if this sense of faking-it-for-money is a component that is actually conditional to viewing pleasure for sadists and misogynists, and maybe it's an indication that there are more people out there with those predilections than we might like to think.
Straight porn too
I’ve heard and have no source for this, but most of the bigger porn subreddits were basically run by people who had a ton of money trying to push their own content to the top to generate revenue.
Makes sense considering how 99% of the porn accounts had titles such as "WHOEVER LIKES THIS WILL GET SOMETHING FREE IN THEIR INBOX, TRY ME!"
Like damn, thousands of porn accounts made posts like this. Obviously they all hired spam companies to do it for them but what kind of ad company can't take the time to even learn the basics about the website they're advertising on? Really amazed me how few of the accounts seemed to actually be human, and even if human absolutely not the content creators themselves
Dude porn was working fine on rif untill like yesterday, i have a moded reddit app but i still refuse to use it. As a side note lemmymsfw is starting to be a good replacement (atleast for me).
Make all posts require mod aproval to make sure you comply with not allowing anything NSFW.
Reddit decides to “crack down” on the protests instead of realizing that it’s all because they’re being jerks.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
I just read the article. I wonder how many bootlickers and corporate apolgists are going to say anything.
I find it sad for all the useful information on that website ( which, if you come across, do repost it on a lemmy community! ) and the subreddits dedicated to helping others out. It would be great if we could build that on the fediverse, but I can imagine wanting to reach as many people as possible when you're helping out veterans for example.
I was wondering about this, whether just taking some of my interresting or more sucesfull posts and discussions and reposting them to lemmy communities, maybe even summarizing the best comments from Reddit, would be a worthwhile endeavor. If so, it would be best to not do it at once, but gradually over the next weeks or months.
But you are right, I'll definitely do that for obscure questions I had that were answered in a helpful way, so I can finally start writing "lemmy" instead of "reddit" after every google search.
I did it when I was looking up information about lore books from a video game and someone posted all the books as PDF's in a comment 4 years ago. Thought that was a great example of something I could repost!
Indeed for years now I always searched for say "best TV Reddit" and got good answers instead of advertising
This is hubris is really good for the fediverse. I had a relatively piddly account at only 80,000 in karma but I I still closed my account. Good riddance to that last piece of corporate social media. The next thing I want to see is something similar to Pinterest in the fediverse space but it may end up being redunant.
It's funny that they think they can't be replaced. It will take a while but 5 years from now Reddit will be the MySpace of social news of they don't stop bullying their users.
Five years is too generous, I think. At the end of the day, Reddit is just a forum and forums aren't profitable. Unlike the time of the Digg migration, the technology and platform have been commoditized.
It could be profitable if they just stuck to the basics. Having 2000 employees is ridiculous, they're trying to do too much.
So let the admins have to figure out new mods for all these huge subs. It'll be a shit show. Either they'll have to pay internal people or they'll get people that can't mod for shit.
Also with BotDefense leaving Reddit, whoever takes up the modding duties will have a much harder time moderating overall. They'll be less experienced, less invested in the community, and have a much harder time moderating.
Plus, I view those mods as spineless for caving the protest and making it possible for spez to boot the original mods simply to "keep the content coming"
Mfer there's the literal entirety of the internet available, your precious TIFU can wait a few weeks, everything is okay.
That's the biggest shoe to drop so far, imo
I've been thinking this. I get that reddit is a huge platform, but that's exactly why we should let them figure out their own mess. It's not our problem.
I wonder if internally, they're panicking.
I sure hope they do, but most of all, I hope that specifically Spez is panicking.
I just got my data takeout request granted (110 MB) yesterday, so time to follow up with a GDPR request to then nuke everything. It's the only way to make sure.
I’m still waiting. How long did it take for you?
About 3 weeks I think.
How did you place the takeout request? Would like to do the same thing.
Here's a link to it.
And this is how I find out that my permanent suspension from Reddit- no reason given- from last week has magically reversed itself. Too late now. Fuck them.
Thank you! just placed my request.
https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043048352-How-do-I-request-a-copy-of-my-Reddit-data-and-information-
thank you!
How can I do the same thing?
https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043048352-How-do-I-request-a-copy-of-my-Reddit-data-and-information-
How did they send it out to you, via message or email.
I submitted my gdpr a couple weeks ago, but my accounts all used temp emails that I can't access anymore so I wouldn't get it if they sent it there.
My data takeout request was a download URL delivered by a message. I can't submit a GDPR request yet since Reddit allows you one request per 30 days.
The normal data export request gives you a pm with a link with an expiration date.
What is this? The Final Final Final Final Last Warning before the Last Final Final Final Final Last Final Warning?
China's final warning.
They should just migrate to other platforms or join us. I don’t understand why would they stay on a website hostile to its users like this. They want to protest on the same platform that is the source of the problem…
I think the next step is to announce privatization of subreddits. Take a week to get all active members approved and then go private until they take the protests seriously or the site just stops growing and dies off
Then the admins will just override them and force the subs public. They’ll also remove the mods and appoint new ones. The only thing anyone can do is stop posting and leave.
But at least we are doing everything we can to inform everyone about what’s going on, why it’s bad, and why we’re upset. We also let them know that there’s a place to go where we can rebuild what’s lost.
This assumes that A. There will be anyone willing to do the job at this point and further B. Anyone that actually does want the job won't use it for their own gain or otherwise put their thumb on the scale and make the sub less appealing anyways.
You can absolutely bet on there being some alt right assholes already waiting to take over in the right moment.
Yes, there will be people willing to lick Spez's boots.
Moderating large subreddits is a ton of work, chances are the people willing to do that work are already doing it and will thus either be part of the ones being removed or to busy with their current workload elsewhere. I mean it’s basicly a unpaid volunteer job that doesn’t benefit your resume, doesn’t exactly sound like something people stand in line for.
Oh man I wish you were right but the line to mod subreddits is so long. Go check out r/redditrequest, there are so many people asking to take mod spots.
We have our own space dont worry. Shitpost.club
Moderators there are volunteers, responsible for curating the content that users post... The mods just need to limit their responsibility and only enforce the site-wide rules.
Allow their subs to devolve to shitposts and memes.
Reddit is already dead. It just might be a few years before Spez and co figure it out.
They already threatened to stop this.
After the blackout, it seems the Admin sent out a generic message to mods of every private sub giving them a deadline to reopen, regardless of whether that sub had already been private prior to any talk of a blackout. Examples give in this post.
Admins think NSFW means sexually explicit? Wrong it means Not Safe For Work, so gaming subs qualify. Entertainment subs, especially swimsuits or violent topics qualify.
It is hard to give up on Reddit because of they have the size/traffic advantage. If enough activity occurs on platforms like this over time, more will be tempted to jump ship.
I would add that the explosion of third party apps is going to be huge as well. The whole decentralized/multiple instance can be a bit challenging for some. Giving use an app that behaves like the old Reddit apps will ease the transition.
They should add an option to the third party apps for Lemmy to enable ads that support your instance and the platform. Force me to use your bullshit app so you can make more money? Fuck you. But I'd opt in to ads to support something that is clearly better.
People downvote cause seeing ads is annoying, but IMO, if it is done tastefully it is the only viable way to pay for the infrastructure, and it would prevent a collapse of the system.
Or simply allow people to donate to their instances. Why does everything have to be done through ads?
My home instance put up a donation request because they had to upgrade the servers. They got enough money to cover costs for the rest of the year in less than a week.
Reddit used to do the same thing, have donations to cover costs. Ads are evil, and as a society we should be pushing back against them, not encouraging them at every opportunity.
Sure... If donating wasn't a pain in the ass to do due to payment methods being different across countries.
I have a few projects I wouldn't mind donating to, but as Patreon uses PayPal it is just more trouble than it is worth
PayPal is a no-no from me too. I've given them so many chances. When I was younger I once sold everything of value I had on eBay in order to purchase a microphone & headphones to record music. Upon payment, PayPal immediately froze my account for 6 months and wouldn't give me access to the funds. I was flat broke and had actually gone into the hole even deeper by paying to send off all of the packages, expecting to get the $ from the items asap. Those were my last dollars. Didn't even have gas $ to get to work. So PayPal froze the $300 ish I was supposed to get and I lost my job. Then for 6 months couldn't sell anything else, why would I? They'd taken everything OR be paid and it really fucked me up. Called them constantly and did everything they asked to verify but it still took 6 months of waiting after I'd done everything I needed to. After that I didn't use them for many years. Finally tried again and had similar issues fuck PayPal.
I don't use PayPal cause it doesn't accept the most convenient method of payment of my country
We need to be boycotting ads. If it's not for a vital service don't push it in my face. Ads are a damn plague and the internet was better before they permeated it.
Everyone that was on the internet pre-2010 knows this. What amazes me is some have been brainwashed to support them.
Commented about how YouTube should revert and become ad free once. People dogpiled me with "then how would it run?!"
Idk, how did it ever run before implementing ads?
How did.. almost any site get by before ads? Donations or just not being "big" enough to require so much. If you have a good site that people value they will pay for it.
If you're trying to sell something that no one really wants? Well that's why we have ads now isn't it? Companies trying to sell some bs no one asked for.
I literally only use Reddit for porn, and whilst Relay was working and still is, I get a warning that this isn't possible unless I use the official app, or the website... All my mobile usage from Reddit has pretty much disappeared.
They should have back tracked, but doubling down is a death sentence for me. They can keep having posts, but 99% of them are already reposts from other sites - Reddit as a whole may as well be a combined Facebook style echo chamber and Tik Tok archive, because these days it doesn't feel like it's much else.
does everyone only use reddit for porn?
like shit i only use reddit for porn now i thought i was weird.
unless we're both weird
I use Pornhub like a regular person. I’m not gonna get off to some 15 second gif or go browsing through someone’s profile to see the same video reposted in 30 different subs
I used it for other stuff but when porn popped up on my feed I'd often forget about that other stuff and go down a rabbit hole of "damn, she's bad af! Anymore of her?" And whatnot
I ONLY did that bc Boost had a handy download button and made it super simple to collect the videos I liked. Before that I never used redshit for porn as when I jack it I just go to the hub or w/e as redshit's format regarding porn is too inconsistent for my liking. I'm picky, and will only find about 1 out every 50 women to be my type regardless of sub.
Just wasn't worth wasting my time on. However, with the download ability? If a baddie popped up I'd go through the profile and put the best videos in the spank bank to jack it to later.
Now Boost is dead. I hate the official app with a passion. Wouldn't use it if it were excellent bc of the huge "F YOU!" The site gave me and really doubt they've even implemented the download feature to the official app yet.
Hilarious how it took them so long to add a download feature. For many years i'd constantly see people tagging the video downloader bot or whatever or asking "where can I download?" And thought it was crazy that redshit and so many apps STILL hadn't implemented an easy download function when Boost has had it since day 1 of my use and always been so damn simple
I learned that if you create your own subreddit, it bypasses the restriction.
This is the problem with people that think in terms of being "management". Management will always have an adversarial relationship with everyone else in an organization simply because they think they have to. The longer they stay in those positions the worse it gets.
I hope they like their strict editorial control they're enforcing.... I'm sure that doesn't do anything to affect their Section 230 protections.
Best idea I’ve seen so far is to comply - and let the nsfw posts just keep on coming. Show the advertisers how their ads are being shown next to nsfw, and see how that goes.
I can understand that mods of communities like r/Military feel that they have a duty to serve their community and are worried about no longer being able to do so, unless they comply to the Reddit diktat. But there is an alternative they should embrace - come and join us on lemmy! You can build your community again, in a much safer haven.
"Post more porn!"
"The internet is for porn"
Intrinsic truths out there.
Wasn't there once the CEO of a hard drive manufacturer companies who said in an interview "our hard drives are for porn"?
Just grab your dick and double-click...
I didn't get any! I got it for the Private sub before. I demand my blackmail from modcodeofconduct. I should send some "FuckYouSpezs" around and see what happens. If anyone from Reddit monitors this, the sub in question is /r/mushing
They’ll be put on double SECRET probation!
Honestly, this whole reddit thing is not even that interesting watching from the sidelines. It's good for the occasional chuckle though.
I don't get why more people don't just use ad blockers. The Reddit staff wouldn't even know what's happening until it's too late.
Maybe they already know, that’s why they are purging the third party app and try squeeze money until ship is sank
I'm always between 2 perspectives, one side says to just make their wish come true and allows them to bring paid workers to do the mod work. But then comes the other one that says, there is always someone to want that 15 minutes of glory/power or whatever and will do all the stuff for free.
In either case I think it's not an easy job, and any side will affect Reddit, at least in the short time, people tends to go with the flow, and unless big "old" players (As Sync, Boost, Apollo) or "new" players ( Jerboa, Connect, Memmy) makes other alternatives as easy as it was Reddit, they will stay there.
For instance for me, not been in a centralized server raise questions like where to check in in a community like Aww, Pics, Comics, why there is world, ml or XYZ instances, what's going on ... So, for non tech people all of this will be as intimidating as it was for me, I think.
Tell the Huff that he can take that final warning and shove it up his ass!
They do love dishing out warnings don't they
Should we start a reddit final warning count like the CCP one ?
yes.
All I use Reddit for is updates on the russo-uknrainian war. Fuck spez. Wish the live thread comments had some kind of mirror here.
Personally, I've just switched to using https://www.understandingwar.org/ for my daily update and https://warontherocks.com/ for the deep dives.
The amount of useful information is similar, and the signal to noise ratio is far better.
How do we tell them to get on threads.net
Fuck threads
There is a lot of information about the war on Mastodon. It might be enough for you if you want to take a look. #Ukraine and #UkraineWar are both worth looking into.
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Serious question. Can't the mods delete the subs entirely? Wouldn't that be the biggest blow? To have to start all of these subs over from scratch?
They can, but Reddit can just as easily restore it, with a blank mod list. But based on their actions I wouldn't be surprised if they outright ban any mods that try this.
Would all of the people that subscribed to the mod still be there or would it be a blank slate?
I think this should be a last ditch, unannounced effort. Just do it and bounce.
I really hope Reddit not to die, it would be a shame, I'd miss this type of funny articles about how it's fucking up itself
Speaks to the general fragile ego of the mods of these protesting subs that they are mostly caving to Reddit’s threats rather than just walking away. Two of the three mentioned subs in that article reverted back “for the community.”