Billie Joe has been married to the same woman for more than 30 years.
That's a lot more family value than the MAGA idol ever managed in any of his several marriages.
Green Day also didn't encourage people to attack the Capitol, unlike the "patriot" MAGA idiots.
It's a low bar, but Green Day is a lot more respectful and respectable, even by their own definitions.
Unless in a polycule... In that case I think it's something like "do your best to make sure everyone is doing okay, feeling loved and supported and frequent check ins for consent are done."
It's too socially complicated for me but if you can make it work then what turns your crank ain't none my bizznizz..
I would be curious to see if people from the "counterculture" tend to have longer relationships/be more faithful than traditionalists... I know my ex colleague who spent February 2022 on Parliament Hill in Ottawa must have cheated on his wife with dozens of women...
People have said so much insane shit over the years that it is genuinely becoming harder and harder to tell what is being said sarcastically and what is not
This is a laundry list of things that are just very obviously the opposite of punk, though. It's like if you asked someone to define "anti-punk," they'd rattle of something very similar to this. It's also in "Microblog Memes," a meme community. The things posted here are jokes, and as such its nature as a joke is reinforced by the context in which the text is presented. This is Media Literacy 101, stuff.
I mean it’s a dead giveaway at the first bullet, but I totally get the knee jerk reaction because there were people who said Green day had “lost their way”.
That said, always thought Green Day was everything wrong with punk because of how pop they were when they first started. To me they’re still pretty pop. They’re like the hot topic of punk.
Brother, if you gotta ask that question you might want to take a good hard look at your own social media literacy. This is one of the most obvious pieces of satire I've ever seen. It has all the subtlety of a kick in the balls.
Who would say they want to uphold the patriarchy? That part would be covered by the "traditional family values" if they really supported the idea and they'd deny that there is a patriarchy (but only if asked about it, they wouldn't bring it up unless it was a troll, and in that case I don't think they'd start with a real complaint).
I wish I could be that naive. Come visit red city USA, some people say the most interesting things. And when you meet women who expect it... yeah. It is a thing.
Though in that case, wouldn't it be a troll? Like I assume that those who do talk about it in a positive way are doing it specifically to piss off feminists. Or women who want to "virtue signal" to men.
It just seems like such a weird way to approach that in a positive sense.
Reminds me of Tom Morello's response to Paul Ryan claiming his favorite band was RATM.
I wonder what Ryan’s favorite Rage song is? Is it the one where we condemn the genocide of Native Americans? The one lambasting American imperialism? Our cover of “Fuck the Police”? Or is it the one where we call on the people to seize the means of production? So many excellent choices to jam out to at Young Republican meetings!
Its funny, reading this post outloud to a friend and his reaction was "if Green Day doesn't support Trump's campaign then I don't anymore."
He was serious too.
Sometimes the dumbest things can change someones mind.
Yeah but like he could have guessed. Like I can guess right now that if I go turn on the sink and touch the water it will make my hand wet. Like I don't know for certain but I am pretty God damn sure.
As shown above he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and because he doesn't follow politics at all it's all word of mouth to him. His actual views aren't inline with Trump's
From "Low Quality Facts", it's probably a joke. If not, they need to explain what Anarchy in the UK meant to 1970s Britain. Or show what they mean in the following 2 decades of punk.
Raw. Anti-establishment. Rebel. But also punk doesn't give a fuck how I define it and punk would say fuck you for asking. But it would also share a half smoked cigarette and ask to crash on your couch.
You're right punk can't be defined - all I can say is that Greenday isn't anymore. Or maybe I'm a sellout.
Also "punk" is an excellent way to not swear! Because punk is also about punkin CHRISTIAN VALUES, you stupid motherpunkin' punks!
MxPx plays on a huge PA in the high school auditorium as he raises his arms over his head, fists clenched, salmon polo shirt collar rippling around his neck in the thick spring breeze somehow, even though it's indoors
Jesus was the first punk, you punks!
crowd noise surges to almost painful levels, he walks off stage holding a large burning cross above his head given to him by an assistant. The crowd pulsates closer to him as he walks away, and he sticks out his tongue and gives people the finger... the ring finger.
Frick off, you punkers! WTF!! What True Followers! LOL! Loving Our Lord! Thank you, good night!
crowd noise recedes as they all begin clapping and praying in the distance. Cut to a car, him, driver's seat, driving and Hawk Nelson playing in the car
Punkin' nailed it! Like our father to the cross! I'm so gay for that hot-abbed Jesus! Toga! Toga! Toga! I bet he had a great ding-donger on him. What a beseeching and beautiful man our savior was...
"No no no, he clarified that those who die are justified by wearing the badge... and that they were the chosen white, obviously he supports Qualified Immunity. No I've never heard of Sarcasm, is that a peasant thing?" - Republicans Unironically
Yeah. Nazi punks have to exist for "nazi punks fuck off" to make any sense. Keeping that shit out isn't really a once and done kind of thing, unfortunately.
I am officially boycotting Green Day after they insulted the MAGA agenda on NYE. Punk rock should NOT be political. Punk rock is about and has ALWAYS been about the following:
-maintaining traditional family values.
-upholding the patriarchy.
-respecting authority figures.
-saluting the flag, standing for the national anthem, and unconditionally supporting the military.
I wholeheartedly support BJA and Green Day for the message of what they did, but holy shit I can't stand to listen to their music. I hate that I have to now make a whole "I swear I'm not MAGA" preface to my inability to tolerate them.
Nah, it's a tiny bit of extra effort. Fuck Green Day, but Fuck Fucking Trump. It's that extra bit that we've had to add on recently, like Fuck Hamas, but Fuck me, Fuck the fucking IDF.
This is shadowboxing someone who doesn't exist. I know this is parody, but the ironic twist of saying Green Day was never or shouldn't be political...nobody was saying that.
Obviously people who like the thing they were protesting against will say something to the effect of "F this band who disagrees with me politically" or even "they shouldn't have been political in a NYE performance" but that is disagreeing with the content or timing of the message. There's nothing to parody there.
There were quite recently a few outraged people on Musk's weird platform crying over Green Day and Tom Morello being too political. Not "I don't like them because they are political" but "stop being political and return to making music" comments.
Maybe he's right.
Billie Joe has been married to the same woman for more than 30 years. That's a lot more family value than the MAGA idol ever managed in any of his several marriages.
Green Day also didn't encourage people to attack the Capitol, unlike the "patriot" MAGA idiots.
It's a low bar, but Green Day is a lot more respectful and respectable, even by their own definitions.
Billie Joe Armstrong: Strong advocate for monogamy and heterosexual marriage.
Taylor Swift: Serial dater. Pegs exclusively.
Also Billie Joe: Openly bisexual since 1995. Love the one you're with. That's literally the only thing that matters.
Unless in a polycule... In that case I think it's something like "do your best to make sure everyone is doing okay, feeling loved and supported and frequent check ins for consent are done."
It's too socially complicated for me but if you can make it work then what turns your crank ain't none my bizznizz..
Or, more succinctly, love the ones you're with.
Me no understand peg?
I'm a visual learner BTW
Google that one with safe search off when nobody else is around.
But what's the link with Taylor swift?
Guess he don' wanna be an American idiot!
I would be curious to see if people from the "counterculture" tend to have longer relationships/be more faithful than traditionalists... I know my ex colleague who spent February 2022 on Parliament Hill in Ottawa must have cheated on his wife with dozens of women...
Is MAGA US version of United Russia? And MAGA idol US version of Putin?
In this thread: People who are incapable of understanding the most transparently obvious satire ever written.
People have said so much insane shit over the years that it is genuinely becoming harder and harder to tell what is being said sarcastically and what is not
Yeah but this one was still super obvious. At least if you read the whole thing.
I mean I've heard more idiotic shit said sincerely.
Reminds me of those trump rallyists dancing to rage against the machine.
You fools! You're raging WITH the machine! THAT'S the machine!!
I have met people who do believe everything the meme said unironically, though. They're rank authoritarians.
Yeah I guess that’s fair, there are a lot of those types in the world in recent years…
Also, posted in a meme community. So, like...doubly obvious to anyone who spent literally more than a second thinking about what they were reading.
This is a laundry list of things that are just very obviously the opposite of punk, though. It's like if you asked someone to define "anti-punk," they'd rattle of something very similar to this. It's also in "Microblog Memes," a meme community. The things posted here are jokes, and as such its nature as a joke is reinforced by the context in which the text is presented. This is Media Literacy 101, stuff.
If someone in full seriousness says something like in the screenshot, it unintentionally becomes satirical.
I mean it’s a dead giveaway at the first bullet, but I totally get the knee jerk reaction because there were people who said Green day had “lost their way”.
That said, always thought Green Day was everything wrong with punk because of how pop they were when they first started. To me they’re still pretty pop. They’re like the hot topic of punk.
Green Day is "mainstream punk." Which is as damning a description of a punk band as you can probably get without calling them cryptofascist.
Huh, I always thought they were alt rock.
They’re pop rock, basically.
Also the unconditional support for military (especially veterans) is a cultural point that many otherwise OK people have big trouble with...
this is a parody account right.....
right?
Yeah. It’s called low quality facts.
Poe's Law got me here...
I follow them on Mastodon. They're my favorite source of the lowest quality facts on the internet, behind fox news.
No, they're quite serious about providing statements of dubious factuality.
Brother, if you gotta ask that question you might want to take a good hard look at your own social media literacy. This is one of the most obvious pieces of satire I've ever seen. It has all the subtlety of a kick in the balls.
Who would say they want to uphold the patriarchy? That part would be covered by the "traditional family values" if they really supported the idea and they'd deny that there is a patriarchy (but only if asked about it, they wouldn't bring it up unless it was a troll, and in that case I don't think they'd start with a real complaint).
I wish I could be that naive. Come visit red city USA, some people say the most interesting things. And when you meet women who expect it... yeah. It is a thing.
Though in that case, wouldn't it be a troll? Like I assume that those who do talk about it in a positive way are doing it specifically to piss off feminists. Or women who want to "virtue signal" to men.
It just seems like such a weird way to approach that in a positive sense.
2 of my sisters in law dude... TWO OF THEM
I think the people here who cant see this is satire are aliens from another planet
Hey, some aliens from other planets can see this is satire... so I've heard.
He had me in the first half. I’m not gonna lie.
Reminds me of Tom Morello's response to Paul Ryan claiming his favorite band was RATM.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tom-morello-paul-ryan-is-the-embodiment-of-the-machine-our-music-rages-against-246033/
Are you fucking KIDDING ME?
Oh, yeah you're fucking kidding me.
Ok, carry on, then.
Don't wanna be an American Idiot
Don't want a woman on my news media
And can you hear the sound of hysteria
The libtards mind fuck America
Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alienation
Where it's man and woman married okay
In television Dreams of tomorrow
The F16 flyovers were meant to follow
The American Anthem
DUNUNUNUN DUNNUNNUNUN
All true but Green Day hasn't been punk since just before Dookie. If you want to hear Billy Joe Armstrong in a punk band check out Pinhead Gunpowder.
Being punk seems like such a high and a low bar all at the same time.
I think anyone who considers it a low bar at all thinks punk is about teen angst or some such.
No, it's not that it's about angst. More that any one can be punk in any walk of life.
Its funny, reading this post outloud to a friend and his reaction was "if Green Day doesn't support Trump's campaign then I don't anymore." He was serious too. Sometimes the dumbest things can change someones mind.
Yeah but like he could have guessed. Like I can guess right now that if I go turn on the sink and touch the water it will make my hand wet. Like I don't know for certain but I am pretty God damn sure.
As shown above he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and because he doesn't follow politics at all it's all word of mouth to him. His actual views aren't inline with Trump's
I'm a Patron of this low quality genius.
Sure, everybody knows that.
Boycotting punk? Now THAT'S punk!
This has to be a joke.
Low quality facts only posts the highest quality facts
It doesn't have to be but it is.
Well that's nice of it
Jokes? From user Low Quality Facts? Never!
What gave it away?
It's so blatantly satire that the humor is missing.
From "Low Quality Facts", it's probably a joke. If not, they need to explain what Anarchy in the UK meant to 1970s Britain. Or show what they mean in the following 2 decades of punk.
Green day is still considered punk? Or is that part of the joke? (Serious question)
I mean... what is punk really? It seems pretty undefined.
Nah it's pretty well defined - no, greenday is no longer straight up punk. Pop punk rock would probably fit them better now.
I'm game. I'm 57 years old and I've been listening to music since before the sex pistols. Let's hear the definition of Punk.
Raw. Anti-establishment. Rebel. But also punk doesn't give a fuck how I define it and punk would say fuck you for asking. But it would also share a half smoked cigarette and ask to crash on your couch.
You're right punk can't be defined - all I can say is that Greenday isn't anymore. Or maybe I'm a sellout.
Sounds legit to me in my 50s now. I would add probably not having a large music label backing you and not giving a fsck about that either.
Also punk: dripping wet sarcasm about current events. Carry on.
Why are republicans such fragile snowflake little bitches
Why are lemmings so socially inept that they can’t pick up on something so obviously satire
Yeahhh... Pretty obviously satire even without the user name.
This satire doesn't exist in a vacuum.
Because we let them.
Also "punk" is an excellent way to not swear! Because punk is also about punkin CHRISTIAN VALUES, you stupid motherpunkin' punks!
MxPx plays on a huge PA in the high school auditorium as he raises his arms over his head, fists clenched, salmon polo shirt collar rippling around his neck in the thick spring breeze somehow, even though it's indoors
Jesus was the first punk, you punks!
crowd noise surges to almost painful levels, he walks off stage holding a large burning cross above his head given to him by an assistant. The crowd pulsates closer to him as he walks away, and he sticks out his tongue and gives people the finger... the ring finger.
Frick off, you punkers! WTF!! What True Followers! LOL! Loving Our Lord! Thank you, good night!
crowd noise recedes as they all begin clapping and praying in the distance. Cut to a car, him, driver's seat, driving and Hawk Nelson playing in the car
Punkin' nailed it! Like our father to the cross! I'm so gay for that hot-abbed Jesus! Toga! Toga! Toga! I bet he had a great ding-donger on him. What a beseeching and beautiful man our savior was...
pulls into his fraternity parking lot
This... is. I can't tell you how happy I am right now, this is incredible. Thank you my punk in christ.
If you get offended by music then may I suggest a white noise machine
WHITE noise? Clutches pearls
If a MAGAtard gets pissed off that means they must be doing something right.
"No no no, he clarified that those who die are justified by wearing the badge... and that they were the chosen white, obviously he supports Qualified Immunity. No I've never heard of Sarcasm, is that a peasant thing?" - Republicans Unironically
is the changed lyric really all that different from the original lyric of "redneck agenda"?
Even with sarcasm my blood is boiling.
MAGA trying to COOP punk pisses me off.
It’s satire. Look at the account name.
Satire is based in reality. They genuinely are pissed at green day, and politicians have walked out to RATM unironically.
Yeah. Nazi punks have to exist for "nazi punks fuck off" to make any sense. Keeping that shit out isn't really a once and done kind of thing, unfortunately.
Just going to randomly slide into this 2 week old thread to mention that I appreciate your username.
Image Transcription: Mastodon Post
Low Quality Facts, @[email protected]
I am officially boycotting Green Day after they insulted the MAGA agenda on NYE. Punk rock should NOT be political. Punk rock is about and has ALWAYS been about the following:
-maintaining traditional family values.
-upholding the patriarchy.
-respecting authority figures.
-saluting the flag, standing for the national anthem, and unconditionally supporting the military.
Yes. When did punk rock become unsafe?
I wholeheartedly support BJA and Green Day for the message of what they did, but holy shit I can't stand to listen to their music. I hate that I have to now make a whole "I swear I'm not MAGA" preface to my inability to tolerate them.
The American Idiot album is good and the anti-Bush aspect feels less political these days because everyone hates Bush now.
Maybe I'm a suckered for a rock opera though. I never got into their actual punk early stuff.
Hunh. Their early stuff was "punk"? Interesting.
Nah, it's a tiny bit of extra effort. Fuck Green Day, but Fuck Fucking Trump. It's that extra bit that we've had to add on recently, like Fuck Hamas, but Fuck me, Fuck the fucking IDF.
Meanwhile, country went from 1.5/4 to 4/4
kekw
This person clearly listened to a different brand of punk than what I listened to. He should run this by Jello Biafra.
Just don't run it by Johnny Rotten
This is shadowboxing someone who doesn't exist. I know this is parody, but the ironic twist of saying Green Day was never or shouldn't be political...nobody was saying that.
Obviously people who like the thing they were protesting against will say something to the effect of "F this band who disagrees with me politically" or even "they shouldn't have been political in a NYE performance" but that is disagreeing with the content or timing of the message. There's nothing to parody there.
There were quite recently a few outraged people on Musk's weird platform crying over Green Day and Tom Morello being too political. Not "I don't like them because they are political" but "stop being political and return to making music" comments.
Edit, here's the first I found:
Haha. Tim Pool is such a tool (rhyme unintended).