Spyke

I think you'll come to realize that it isn't your attention span but rather the amount of mental energy you have left after working a 9 to 5 for 5 days a week

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lemm.ee

That's definitely a large aspect for me. But, another large part is that the games just seem to be less fun. Online play has gotten so competitive that half the time people just rage quit, and single player games have just become grind machines with pay to skip options.

No, I'm not going to spend my limited free time getting a virtual job gathering wolf pelts. No, I'm not going to give you real money to avoid being virtually employed by an NPC.

I feel like game mechanics that were originally designed to immerse you into the game are now just being used to pad the game time. I won't even buy a game anymore unless I can mod it. I refuse to spend extra hours of my time just because the only realistic aspect of the game is a limited inventory.

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Those kind of games exist, but so does every other kind. And you aren't forced to play only new games. Literally every game ever is available for you to play. Every person that says stuff like you seem like you think the only games available are the most known and most recent AAA games. It's like only going to the most recently opened restaurants in your area, especially chain brand ones, and complaining about you not liking the food and then deciding that all food is like that.

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Some are good. I recently got introduced to Hitman 3 (which also includes 1 and 2) and I found it very fun.

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This is why I started leaning into more productive hobbies. I design stuff in blender, 3D print it out, and prime and paint it for table top games, then I have friends over and we push the little dudes around a map and work together to kill monsters, or kill eachother. So much more satisfying than pouring hours into some screen game that just goes away when my digital subscription ends.

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I know I've been playing BG3 recently and I'm struggling a bit with the mental energy required to play it after work. It's something that really requires full attention for a long period of time and a lot of days I'd rather just do something simpler.

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midwest.social

Bruh, I'm 33 and I started playing Subnautica for the first time a few weeks ago only to realize that in the first day I accidentally played for 10 hours. You just need to find the right game for you to revitalize your interest in gaming. Whatever that game may be!

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Subnautica just does that to you. I completed an entire hardcore playthrough in a single session once (Mostly because I already knew what I was doing but it was still like 14-15 hours straight).

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lemm.ee

Is VR in subnautica an actual way to play or just a once in a while gimmick. I've had it in my library since back when it was beta and have never played more than a few minutes. Installed it since it does VR through steamlink but haven't played yet.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I love VR and Subnautica but Subnautica is not a good game to play in VR. You can make it kinda work with mods, but it does feel very janky.

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GluWureply
lemm.ee

Dang. I thought maybe since it gained so much support and got so big since from when I got it in a $15 indie humble bundle that it might actually be a good one. I'll finally try it tonight.

Have you tried the VR mod for Firewatch? I just got it on a random steam sale for $2, played a bit on my steamdeck, and was thinking the entire time I wish this was VR.

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Raireply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I haven’t! I beat it in flat mode and loved it though!

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GluWureply

I haven't gotten too far in, so I want to get the VR mod installed and restart. It's so good so far, though the intro really does suck, like emotionally. I think it's a perfect format for VR with the walking/ basic interaction format, nothing too complex, and great comfy visuals. I hope it works.

Sometimes, I feel like I should wait until things get better and fixed, but sometimes that leads to me missing things. I wish there were more open source, hacking, development, just community for VR. I've used it since Google cardboard and things really have never taken off. I think with steamlink now streaming to quest headsets, that really help.

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midwest.social

I honestly couldn't say as I startled playing the normal version. But as spooky as that game can get, I don't think I'd even want to try VR version lol.

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GluWureply

The real horrors in our reality are just depressing, so I'd prefer to distract myself with spooky scary subnautica monsters.

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The vanilla VR implementation in Subnautica is very old and kind of tacked onto the game as an afterthought. You have to play with a regular controller and I found the menus to be in the most eye-strain spot possible.

I know there is at least one VR mod to fix it and bring in motion controls but I've never tried it.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

For me, the attention span isn't the problem. I have been going on DOS2 and Factorio benders over the last couple years. For me, it's about making sure that I don't have some niggling anxiety in the back of my mind ruining my concentration. Got chores done? Dinner prepped? Laundry done? Animals fed? Game time baybee.

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lemm.ee

The trick is to push through the anxiety and truly become a worthless pile of shit destroying kids in online shooters, running solely on off-brand Cola, microwave pizza and self-loathing

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On one hand, playing stuff like Minecraft with my kid is super rewarding.

But on the other… is it possible to learn this power?

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Spot on. You have zero responsibilities at that age, except for maybe some homework and a few minimal chores. As an adult all you can think about is the endless todo list.

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Oh man, Factorio is the black hole that has absorbed the most hours of any game I've ever played. I wouldn't have enjoyed it much in my youth, but it's the perfect fit for me now!

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You just gotta find the right game. I discovered Satisfactory last year and had to uninstall it after a few eeks because I was staying up till 2am playing. I am 40.

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lemmy.nz

I think for me a lot of games just don’t challenge me in a meaningful way anymore.

I'm the opposite. If it's a story driven game, I don't wanna die. If I do die, you better make sure I don't have to repeat much. And you'd better make sure I don't die twice in the same place.

Old style save anytime is much preferred to checkpoints, but I feel barely exist in AAA games anymore. I'll put up with checkpoints if they are very frequent. If you make me repeat 30 mins I'll probably just stop playing.

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Fuck yes, I'm not repeating the same fight sixty time so that I can balance the vague satisfaction of having defeated a video game boss with the fact that I've wasted three hours of my time. Also it completely brings me out of the world/story.

I've abandoned a fair number of such games.

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I feel the same way about Baldurs Gate 3, I'm only pushing 30 but after playing for less than 20 minutes I had a mini pre-intervention with myself like, "okay listen up you geek, remember staying up until 4am every night and surviving on popcorn chicken and coffee isn't sustainable"

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The right game can cause depression, because I have no impulse control and will shurk my responsibilities to play it.

Sigh. I do love me some satisfactory though.

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sh.itjust.works

I installed Civ 6, played one game on easy and uninstalled it because I knew what was going to happen if I went down this road.

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lemmy.world

Try Civ Revolution. It's an older game but it holds up and you can do an entire campaign in less then 2 hours.

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Kecessareply
sh.itjust.works

You're like a pusher telling me "Don't take heroin, here's morphine instead" 😳

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Isn't it less fun and more preying on the addictive aspects of gaming?

It's kinda like life Sims, ala Harvest Moon. Give just enough time to finish out your day. Extend the need to progress by fluffing out interactions. Make there be lots of little progression increments.

It's less good game and more preying on dopamine routines. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yb5CINrC5E I get games have similar feel good spikes. Like loot/number simulators which are mostly idle games with more effort for how easy they are. But min/Max Effiency games like many games that have day/night stamina cycles are just keying in on that dopamine rush on a filled day, which doesn't feel different than loot box games in the end. My time at Sandrock was my last one that felt great for a bit then you realize so much is pointless fluff gated by time dumps for no reason than to increase their playtime metrics.

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lemmy.world

Fun fact. I was 2 years older than Bart when the Simpsons started on the Tracy Ulman show and now I'm over a decade older than Marge and Homer.

I need a nap.

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If you want your mind blown when Simpsons started Marge and Homer were boomers, then Gen X and now they're millennials. Bart, Lisa and Maggie started out as Gen X (underachiever and proud of it) then millennials, then gen z, and now they're Gen alpha.

But grampa is always a ww2 vet.

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The last time they mentioned his age it was 38/39. They keep changing it but keeping him and Marge in their 30s.

Honestly I wish they would age everyone up a year every decade. If they had done that we would be seeing the antics of a 13 year old Bart now and I think that could start with some really interesting character development instead of keeping him forever a 10 year old.

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I’m in my 30s and I do 2-3 hour seshes unless I munch an Adderall. Adderall takes it to 10+.

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lemmy.world

Tutorials are child's play. I tried playing "This is the Police II" when it came out. Literally 2 full hours of what was basically a visual novel before I got into any gameplay. After a while I kept thinking "surely the game starts now?" before another scene started.

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Death Stranding, as well. Sooooo many cut scenes followed by 30 seconds of game play, followed by more cut scenes. It was all world building and back story.... But good lord... Took forever to get through

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That was such a weird game. I don't know if I ever figured out the point but boy was it fun to throw people around with your giant god hand.

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lemm.ee

Can we make it illegal for FPS tutorials? I've been playing them longer than the kids making them now.

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For me it's less the attention span thing and more the lack of time

There's a million things I gave to worry about all pulling me in every direction at the same time

Plus now that my ADHD is actually being addressed it's way easier to find time for things

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This is how I felt until I played Valheim and BG3. I think my preferred genres have just shifted. I need something I can relax and play at my own pace. I use to only play competitive shooters, where I needed to be "on" the whole game. Now I can only play a shooter for about an hour before my mind starts to drift and I lose interest.

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Unfortunately the limitations of my pathetic meat suit mean I can only play factorio effectively for about 32hrs straight before needing to power down.

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I think the type of game really makes a difference. Games with fetch quests, a laundry list of waypoints on a map, and tons of bland cutscenes in between simple gameplay put me to sleep now.

Challenging games keep me better occupied, because it's fun to be solving a puzzle of some sort (even if that puzzle is "how to approach this boss"). Strategy and tactics are consistently fun for me too.

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lemmy.world

This is why I have such a soft spot for From Software games. I don't care if I have to die 30 times trying to cross a bridge it'll still keep me engaged trying to figure out a way or just mastering the technique rather than play another Assassin's Creed tailing mission for 30 minutes following some braindead ai.

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lemmy.world

I have a habit of playing those for a few days and then becoming so enraged I put it down for a year. I actually just picked PS3 Demon's Souls to finally get platinum.

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The frustration is understandable and I don't blame anyone for rage quitting, on that note I admire your courage to actually pick up Demon's Souls. May your controller have the fortitude to accept your wrath and remain whole.

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I was feeling that way last year for a good 2 months or so, was seriously considering turning in some of my high end gear for cash and getting my streambox upgraded

Then Battlebit Remastered dropped and I realized I was just really wanting a good Battlefield-style shooter and there wasn't one to scratch my itch

It's started up again recently, and upon further reflection I'm in a driving game mood but all the ones out there RN are fucking oof

So maybe it's the type/quality of the games you're trying out that's the issue

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midwest.social

Swap the shitty snacks out for something healthier and maybe you’ll have more stamina to play

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true! i quit candy and chips and now i'm able to game for 3x longer. i was also able to maintain my body mass due to lower energy consumption when i can't afk so much. win win!

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lemm.ee

I’m 41 years old, and I can’t pay attention to video games for more than about half an hour.

Unless I’m smoking pot, in which case I can play video games all day.

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I find I focus even worse when I’m high, I just want to get up and do stuff, like stretch or exercise. I definitely didn’t do that when I was younger and smoked, so idk what’s changed.

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thorbotreply
lemmy.world

"smoking pot" is not a term I have heard in a looong time. Takes me back

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I've put over 400 hours into vanilla terraria and recently started the calamity mod, first day I put like 6 hours into it.

I don't play every day, I just don't have the time/energy. But when I do I try to make it count.

That being said, we used to play Edward forty hands and try to beat ocarina of time in a single evening, usually staying up until dawn despite the copious alcohol.

I'm not the stallion I used to be, but even an old horse has something to prove.

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I think that's the fault of games rather than me.

A lot of games are the same generic open world bollocks and it's honestly just exhausting.

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If your only issue is that modern games suck, rather than A) Being too exhausted after work, B) Having social media-induced attention deficit, C) Being overwhelmed with other responsibilities or anxiety, or D) Simply just not having enough time, you just have to find games that are actually good. Not AAA grindfests that aim at keeping you glued to the screen getting collectibles for 80 hours, but games that are actually trying to provide you with a worthwhile experience.

Some suggestions: Subnautica, Outer Wilds (not The Outer Worlds), Disco Elysium, Pathologic 2 (mind you, this one is extremely stressful, it's a masterpiece but most people will not enjoy it), The Forgotten City, Hades and Omori.

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Outer Wilds (not The Outer Worlds)

Thank you for this distinction! I've heard people rave about Outer Wilds and all this time thought they were talking about Outer Worlds, which surprised me because I thought Outer Worlds was boring. Taking a look at gameplay now!

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Aw, I'm really enjoying Outer Worlds right now.

That being said, I fully agree with Subnautica being a fantastic game. Probably my favourite game ever.

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lemmy.world

Trying to learn how to play a Final Fantasy game in your late thirties is like trying to learn brain surgery on a worm. I don't know how I had the patience for any of that shit back in the day.

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Back when I was a kid I could play games for hours and hours. Now that I'm 38 I can play video games for hours and hours.

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kbin.social

He learned but marge fucking ruined it and then bart never played him again.

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lemmy.world

Yeah, Marge really did Homer dirty there. There was no reason why she couldn't wait until after the game was over to tell him about Lisa's jazz performance.

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I feel this way pretty often, but then I open Factorio again and the night turns to day quickly.

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There's a bit of a hump you get over, though. I've been recently doing some long franchise-wide marathons and once I got into the groove it was surprisingly nostalgic. It recaptured that feeling of coming back from school and just playing games until I got called for dinner.

I do understand that when I lose that flow I REALLY lose that flow. Not sure if it's age or distractions or what. All I'm saying is you can get it back and it does feel good when you manage it.

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If retirement homes don't have videogames when I'm old, I'll lobby for voluntary euthanasia. Aging is a straight negative. Arguments about it making life meaningful are copium. I can have a meaningful life of gratitude without my body falling apart.

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Perhaps you select the wrong games. I kinda stopped gaming for some years. More than an hour was exhausting and most of the games are really boring. Then i rememberd how i loved transport Tycoon and got ottd again. Tanked LOTS of hours into that game. Half a year later i stumbled over factorio again. I bought it in beta and disliked it. Lots or ottd players followup with factorio, so i gave it another try and DAMN iam hooked. Played 60h in the last few weeks, mostly 1-2h hours per day. Its crazy.

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Also the fact that you feel like you should be more responsible and doing something else. That’s what eats away at me in the adulthood/fatherhood

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infosec.pub

I just got a Steam Deck, and I bought Baldur's Gate 3. Pretty sure I'll finish it on my deathbed. It feels like the hour here or there that I manage to play is not getting me anywhere fast.

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I find the Steam Deck is fantastic for people who have a lot of tiny moments with not much else going on, and for those who travel.

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lemmy.ca

Yup. Haven't really gamed much since my 20s which was half a lifetime ago now.

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I still play games frequently, but in MUCH shorter sessions. I'm also gravitating more toward slower strategic/tactical games that can be paused at any time.

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noridereply
lemm.ee

Agreed, it's easier to jump back into those games, too. One thing I hate is picking a game back up after a week and spending the first 20mins figuring out what I was doing last time.

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I've started taking notes. "Next time, I want to start out by doing this or that."

Then my only problem is starting the next time and going "Oooh, what about this other thing?" :D

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I did install a Sega Genesis emulator on a old laptop during the Xmas break to play some NHL94 and 95 with modern rosters.

That was a lot of fun. I also installed Pirates! Gold after a day and it was fun to revisit these games from my youth.

I loved the ability to save stats.

However after a couple of days I've not really played them again since. It only cost $14 for the Sega controller so it was worth the price. I don't think I could buy 2 beers at a bar locally for that.

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(disclaimer: I didn't make this meme, but I do share the sentiment of rapidly losing focus/mental energy when gaming now.)

Favorite of all time? The SNES. It felt like the peak of 2d graphics before the slate got wiped clean for 3d, so we saw a ton of great games from devs that had been playing/creating 2d games for decades.

Favorite currently? PC. I have a switch, steam deck, and PS5 as well, but 99% of my playtime is on PC.

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📛Mavenreply
lemmy.sdf.org

I was just saying this about the SNES to my SO last night, funny enough. GBA almost matches it, and for largely the same reason: experienced 2d devs, putting out their last hurrahs before the transition to ugly young 3d

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Exactly! And don't get me wrong, there are a ton of great indie 2d games out there now, but back in the SNES days, these were THE devs. You can tell the difference in polish from having been made by the biggest and best studios.

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lemmy.world

For...decades?

I had to go back and read up on the early history of video games. SNES came out in 1991, and yeah - looking at arcade games, Computer Space came out in 1971.

Video games are older than I realized.

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Oh yeah, it all started with the arcades. There was a whole culture attached to it, and they were very popular.

I think it's fascinating to learn about how the developers figured out how to do things back then, the limitations, scaling/distribution, and then the rapid arms race between customers and devs to make games harder and harder to beat. There was an excellent documentary about this on Netflix a few years ago, but I can't remember the name off the top of my head.

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