All karma lost since v. 0.19
Has anybody else experienced this? Ever since Lemmy was upgraded to 0.19, all of my sweet internet points are gone. I know you're not supposed to care about that, nevertheless am I the only one?!
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I'm not sure the original designers of LEMMY believe you are supposed to be able to see your karma "score". It's not available in the web interface, and I think that's on purpose. IDK for sure, but Karma may be detrimental to the quality of debate. Also making it into a popularity contest may also be detrimental to your enjoyment of being here. Personally I find the lack of a karma score relieving. Just relax and have a good time.
Karma was also a really handy tool for mods to keep away bots and trolls.
Is it really, though? Even if karma wasn't ridiculously easy to get in the first place, Reddit has karma sharing communities for the sole purpose of users and bots upvoting each other to get around karma restrictions.
Yes, it really was. It wasn't perfect for the reasons you describe, but it certainly was a useful extra tool.
When mod tools are available, I believe that problem will be solved as well.
First, I doubt that. Even with all the tooling available for mods on Reddit, being able to access a user's overall karma or subreddit karma was really useful for moderating. Including the tools accessing that karma count.
But secondly, and perhaps more importantly, even if that weren't true, and future mod tooling for Lemmy was going to magically solve the problem, removing that tool now is pretty poor. Better to leave it and remove it only once it is no longer necessary.
Yeah, you do have a point there.
I agree completely that this can have negative impact on discussions, stimulate karma farming etc. So I'm all for it to hide it. Would be nice though to completely skip it from the UI (of in this case Boost).
I'm sure it'll get removed. Voyager used to have it and I was shocked it disappeared a couple months ago in preparation for 0.19. Now it just shows post and comment counts.
Lemmy has karma? Nah, keep up votes and down votes but don't make it some accumulation number. That's what drives enshitification. Turning that data into something accumulative right on the user's profile causes click click phone dopamine seekers to then fuel that to behavior in social settings with apps because it gets th internet point dopamine.
Well put.
You're username's wrong. It should be
e=mc^2I have fond memories of "competing" for high post counts back on forums, which just came down to talking a lot and easy wins like "what are you listening to" threads.
Anyway yeah, the thing you don't want already exists here. It's not the end of the world if some people want to chase a number.
It's not tracked anymore as of 0.19 ("don't serialize karma"). Lemmy dev dessalines talks about how it's being removed (and should've been removed sooner) here.
Oh huh, didn't notice the value got zeroed out on Boost
I guess that's cool, the UI will need time to catch up
Lemmy points were never supposed to be cumulative, you're just using some app that did it themselves until whatever they used to gather the data changed.
They're moving to remove karma as it's toxic and unimportant. Most just show your post/comment count now.
But how will we know who is better than who...? I don't want to have to go back to judging people by their physical characteristics again.
You can discriminate them based on their instance, in a lemmy-esque twisted version of nationalism
Oh no. Won't someone think of the imaginary internet points?!
Lemmy has karma points?
No
I belive the total karma display was removed in 0.19. It now only shows the amount of posts and comments you created.
All that grind for nothing. What will your friends think of you now?
Sure.
Have no idea how to check this in Jerboa.
Jeroba never had the option to do so. In my experience only those apps that were used for reddit before had the ability to check karma.
I never found an option in sync either. Not claiming it never had, just I never saw it.
Oh, cool... I've never thought of checking that anyway.
There's Karma on Lemmy?
There was, for a short period.
you could jump to a different platform... kbin/mbin still expose 'reputation points'
maybe not every platform will be so.. conservative
Cool instance bro