Jordan and France drop humanitarian aid into Gaza by air
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You should read the comments for the linked article. Though it seems to be an Isreali site.
Three cheers for Jordan and France!!! To the rest of the world: Wake tf up and get on the moral right side of history
Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité. What a slam dunk.
Good for Jordan and France.
And Israel is just going to let these overflights into their airspace?
I really do wish a professional journalist would have answered this very obvious and direct follow-up question any reasonable reader would have.....
“their” airspace?
Recognizing it as their airspace isn't legitimizing their claim to any territory, it's just an acknowledgement that they hold it fully in their control.
That's like your opinion dude. In actual law national airspace (the only airspace a nation can actually own) extents over territory (whether land or territorial waters).
So in reality recognizing airspace over Gaza as being Israel's recognizes Gaza as Israeli territory.
That makes sense, actually. Thanks for the correction.
Ever hear the saying possession is 9/10 of the law? It doesn't matter who's the legal owner of the airspace when your primary concern is preventing a major diplomatic incident.
Ah yes. The old finders keepers clause. Definitely something we should be applying to rules on national airspace.
I'm not talking about the rules you walnut. I'm talking about avoiding a crisis.
What incident? Israel is not going to pull any shenanigans on France.
We hope.
Well France is possessing the fuck out of Gaza's air space right now, and haven't been shot down by the IDF. So by your logic I think it's clear who owns Gaza's air space.
"By my logic"? You sound like someone who's putting a lot of effort into misunderstand everything I say because want to be right about something I'm not even talking about.
Probably the same thing they did last time Jordan airdropped supplies: be honest and coordinate.
Notably, Reuters got an official "no comment" from Israel for this round of aid. Which probably means yes, but we don't want to have it on record.
See, this is the kind of context I'm looking for.
I highly doubt that any country would fly into combat airspace without coordination. That sounds a recipe for a massive international incident if a plane gets shot down.
What are they going to do?
Employ military force to ensure the sovereignty of their airspace.
The playbook's pretty standard:
If people are using commercial overflight allowances to drop cargo into a war zone one of the combatants could simply deny commercial overflight.
Then fighter escorts to remove the aircraft from the contested airspace
Then warning shots
Then downing aircraft.
so I would love for the journalist to tell me what the current situation is, what Israel's response to this is, and what the ongoing future air situation is anticipated to be
And you think they would do this to an ally trying to help innocent people that Israel is bombing to hell?
Allies don't violate your airspace, creating bad media for you.
But yes to answer your first question I absolutely would expect them to deny commercial overflight of their military operations. I'm honestly surprised they haven't already
Gaza is not Israeli airspace.
I agree with you. But that's a political statement. Politically it is not part of the Israeli country.
The de facto military truth however, is the Israeli military enjoys full uncontested control of the airspace above Gaza
But to shoot down other counties aircraft over Gaza would be to make the political statement that it is their airspace, which Is unacceptable
De facto truth is that French air force conducted air drops of supplies in uncontestedly Israeli airspace above Gaza.
Israel is not going to attack French military aircraft, it will be political suicide.
I also do not understand your fixation on commercial overflight which is irrelevant here.
None of Israel's allies are true friends of the Israeli people. Because friends don't let friends commit genocide.
I will be absolutely shocked and terrified if Israel shoots down a French plane, fuck them for the genocide they are committing, but that moment would be Gavrilo Princip, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin(I know I know), and 9/11 combined in terms of ushering in a new age of conflict. It could easily rip NATO and the UN apart while also escalating the conflict in the Middle East to new heights. I don’t think, or maybe I just hope that, Israel is that stupid.