By annual ridership, the New York City Subway is the busiest rapid transit system in both the Western Hemisphere and the Western world, as well as the eleventh-busiest rapid transit rail system in the world.[18] The subway carried 1,793,073,000 riders in 2022.[6]: 2 [note 5] On October 29, 2015, more than 6.2 million people rode the subway system, establishing the highest single-day ridership since ridership was regularly monitored in 1985.[20]
The system is also one of the world's longest. Overall, the system contains 248 miles (399 km) of routes,[10] translating into 665 miles (1,070 km) of revenue track[10] and a total of 850 miles (1,370 km) including non-revenue trackage.[11] Of the system's 28 routes or "services" (which usually share track or "lines" with other services), 25 pass through Manhattan, the exceptions being the G train, the Franklin Avenue Shuttle, and the Rockaway Park Shuttle.
The NYC system was built a century ago and operates at an astonishing level considering its for one city and is so relatively inexpensive.
And this appears to be a shot of a closed station that appears to be lit by flashlight - my guess is someone urbexing an abandoned station. There are quite a few stations in NYC that have been closed in the past century and aren't well maintained. Some are still passed by active trains even though there's no longer a stop there.
Agreed. We are lucky to have that. Also I'm pretty sure that the photos were chosen to show off the worse of the US subway system in NYC. I remember riding it once and thought it was pretty clean.
I guarantee that someone could do the same for the other subway systems if they should choose too.
make better agi prop, the US has the most gorgeous metro system in the world. Facts dont care about your feelings. (If you dont like brutalist architecture you probably wont like it and I'm sorry)
Funny you'd say that, because even though the first plans for it date back to the Russian Empire, it was the communists under Stalin who actually built it.
Having worked for the MTA on the subway system years back, I invite you all to remember that we built one of the very first subway systems in the world, definitely first in scale, knowing we'd make mistakes in implementation, along with a lot of successful ideas.
Everyone else learns from our mistakes, we gladly hosted the engineering team from Los Angeles and Bangkok when they wanted to share notes with us.
With almost 200miles/320km of public tracks, this is easily the most successful mass transit system internationally. "BuT gWaFiTi BaD :( "
Hi friend, please reread and note the caveat, "one of the very first", which position number 5 certainly includes.
Also, a bit childish to want to rank systems based on creation date.
If you feel like "losing", please read on:
NYC total system length is about 800 miles (1.1km)
yearly ridership: 1.8bn rides
If we count the el's (elevated rapid transit, which is still running), first ride was in iirc 1868.
But look, the important thing is that both our countries (presuming you live in the UK) have nice mass transit systems to keep cars off the roads. I look forward to visiting your country and riding its underground system at some point.
When somebody says one of the first it implies by time (and US was 30 years later. ) Thus why that link I posted rates them by creation date. If you had claimed by best subway by milage I would link to which one ranks them by order of mileage.
If I feel like losing. LOL It isn't a zero sum game we are playing, Just facts I linked. Sorry you feel so offended. Hope you have a good new year.
Yeah, by saying first it would mislead people into thinking USA were pioneers, but they were actually fifth because it took USA longer to institute. Not judging, just saying...and it makes sense because UK has been a country with cities for thousands of years, while USA is relatively new...with a slower need to get people moved
One could make a similar post of a clean American city and European cities with graffiti everywhere.
Most all major cities have graffiti. I will say that I’m pretty surprised at the number of EU cities that have massive graffiti everywhere. The US has issues, but a lot of larger graffiti is limited to poorer, less-traveled or more inaccessible areas. EU? Huge graffiti right across shop fronts roll-down shutters on the Main Street. Surprising.
France is a shit hole compared to most US cities, and I'm VERY well traveled. Spain? Absolutely the opposite. Cleanest cities I've ever seen and some of the nicest architecture too.
This crap isn't a monolith, and the US has plenty of good mass transportation systems.
I'm with OP on the being had in the first half. Though I'd add, with a little bit of added effort, you can fix both. The fact that the US can do neither is, in my book, a failure of policy.
I may be biased since I live in the city, but being able to get damn near anywhere (that's not Staten Island, but fuck Staten Island) for the price of a bag of chips is pretty cool.
Yes, but... London has great underground network qnd service as well without the dictatorship.
France too. Stockholm as well.
Sorry, your argument is based on one data point only.
I'm not even sure you know what my argument is. I haven't articulated a full point so I think there's some filling in the gaps going on. But what I wrote up above (without people reading into it) is factual.
London (it's geographical location)has been a living space and communal hub since 43CE, maybe if we give America a thousand years or so they will also build public transportation.
No, sadly it was much later than that. It's like saying "shaq can dunk but this stupid fucking infant over there can't even dribble the ball". Yes, great point I am so enlightened.
The NYC system was built a century ago and operates at an astonishing level considering its for one city and is so relatively inexpensive.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway#:~:text=By%20annual%20ridership%2C%20the%20New,carried%201%2C793%2C073%2C000%20riders%20in%202022.
And this appears to be a shot of a closed station that appears to be lit by flashlight - my guess is someone urbexing an abandoned station. There are quite a few stations in NYC that have been closed in the past century and aren't well maintained. Some are still passed by active trains even though there's no longer a stop there.
Of all things America sucks at, the NYC subway is not the thing to attack. Fuck cars
Agreed. We are lucky to have that. Also I'm pretty sure that the photos were chosen to show off the worse of the US subway system in NYC. I remember riding it once and thought it was pretty clean.
I guarantee that someone could do the same for the other subway systems if they should choose too.
The smell takes some getting used to but that's kind of Manhattan in general
It was winter when I visited. That probably helped
The issue isn't the presence of a subway system, but rather the need for more funding, care and attention.
I love propaganda I love propaganda I love propaganda I love propaganda
I summon Nazi propaganda!
Auschwitz had a swimming pool, detainee run theater, and the detainees often played soccer matches. Curious features of a "death camp."
I am sorry, is that sarcasm? I can't quite read it out from your comment.
They summoned Nazi propaganda.
Ah, okay - that explains it :D
Yoy might want to make it clear that you're making fun of nazi apologists
Oh, now do Heart Mountain next!
Here it is!
Amazing that you discovered how to copy & paste! You are doing well!
In all of Vietnam there are currently two active metro lines, one of which is only partially complete.
I hope it improves. Many lines are under construction but all of the projects have been plagued by delays for years.
But why would you include this as an example here?
Tbf Vietnam has a hard time building lines given all the unexploded ordinance that the US left
Talk about cherry picking lmao
make better agi prop, the US has the most gorgeous metro system in the world. Facts dont care about your feelings. (If you dont like brutalist architecture you probably wont like it and I'm sorry)
Ahem, have you seen the Moscow subway?
In case anyone is wondering, that's Komsomolskaya station, built in 1952. Later stations tended to not be so opulent.
Feels a little bougie if you ask me, but to each their own.
Funny you'd say that, because even though the first plans for it date back to the Russian Empire, it was the communists under Stalin who actually built it.
Yeah. DC has some very pretty metro stations. NYC has SO MANY stops in Manhattan it was silly when visiting.
Do you mean "agitprop"?
I distinctly remember having to stop and admire the station the first time I went through there.
This metro system doesn't have enough parallel track to allow for night time operation or maintenance.
the Vienna metro (u bahn) is neat because it has a very wide range of architectural styles
You forgot London Subway.
They didn't. The UK isn't cummunist enough
... ? Cummunist? It is some kind of fetish?
Yes. It's when you seize the means of reproduction.
Cummunist on fascist
Mind the gap
Omg I even dreamed that after hearing this non stop on the class vacation. It follows you through the day and dream.
Some of the stations have a frighteningly large gap. I didn't take it seriously until I almost fell in one.
Oh thats actually something to keep in mind 🤡
Btw
Having worked for the MTA on the subway system years back, I invite you all to remember that we built one of the very first subway systems in the world, definitely first in scale, knowing we'd make mistakes in implementation, along with a lot of successful ideas.
Everyone else learns from our mistakes, we gladly hosted the engineering team from Los Angeles and Bangkok when they wanted to share notes with us.
With almost 200miles/320km of public tracks, this is easily the most successful mass transit system internationally. "BuT gWaFiTi BaD :( "
Give it a rest, posers.
Nope, first was UK with London Underground in 1863 (has 250 miles of track now) and 5th was USA is 1897.
https://www.oldest.org/geography/subway-systems/
Hi friend, please reread and note the caveat, "one of the very first", which position number 5 certainly includes.
Also, a bit childish to want to rank systems based on creation date. If you feel like "losing", please read on:
But look, the important thing is that both our countries (presuming you live in the UK) have nice mass transit systems to keep cars off the roads. I look forward to visiting your country and riding its underground system at some point.
When somebody says one of the first it implies by time (and US was 30 years later. ) Thus why that link I posted rates them by creation date. If you had claimed by best subway by milage I would link to which one ranks them by order of mileage. If I feel like losing. LOL It isn't a zero sum game we are playing, Just facts I linked. Sorry you feel so offended. Hope you have a good new year.
Most people wouldn't respond to the question, "who was here first?" with "how much time has passed since you got here?". Right?
Yeah, by saying first it would mislead people into thinking USA were pioneers, but they were actually fifth because it took USA longer to institute. Not judging, just saying...and it makes sense because UK has been a country with cities for thousands of years, while USA is relatively new...with a slower need to get people moved
I understand what you're saying, and I don't agree. We'll just leave it there 😎
Parent said "one of," not "the very first." Wikipedia has US with 4 out of the first 10 metro stations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metro_systems
Interesting to note is that some (all?) of those early metro systems are arguably more successful than the subsequent US systems.
The dates on that list skip over the countries from other web links of same data. maybe somebody forgot to add the others to this data
One could make a similar post of a clean American city and European cities with graffiti everywhere.
Most all major cities have graffiti. I will say that I’m pretty surprised at the number of EU cities that have massive graffiti everywhere. The US has issues, but a lot of larger graffiti is limited to poorer, less-traveled or more inaccessible areas. EU? Huge graffiti right across shop fronts roll-down shutters on the Main Street. Surprising.
France is a shit hole compared to most US cities, and I'm VERY well traveled. Spain? Absolutely the opposite. Cleanest cities I've ever seen and some of the nicest architecture too.
This crap isn't a monolith, and the US has plenty of good mass transportation systems.
I’ve been to parts of Spain that have graffiti. Barcelona has plenty, Madrid is spotless - of course that depends on the part of town, too.
The point was that you can arrange pictures to look like whatever you want most of the time, not to actually criticize any one country.
Bad meme, id you want to dunk on the US find a better angle than obvious propaganda.
Not mine ;)
I'm with OP on the being had in the first half. Though I'd add, with a little bit of added effort, you can fix both. The fact that the US can do neither is, in my book, a failure of policy.
You had me in the first half
NYC subway isn't that bad, yeah it's not mind blowing but it works and when you need to commute that's all that matters
I would contest that it is mind-blowing.
I may be biased since I live in the city, but being able to get damn near anywhere (that's not Staten Island, but fuck Staten Island) for the price of a bag of chips is pretty cool.
That's what I meant, you won't find grand architecture or fancy stations but you can get anywhere (I also live in the city)
NYC subway rats will fuck you up, I joke. City subways are actually decent, maybe not the best, but they get by.
The underground stations in Prague are great as well!
Russia (St.Petersburg)
Spain (Madrid Atocha)
India
They also use the Imperial system, because of the British occupation in the past.
The USA are not America
Well, if you are going to feel better I can post a picture of the subway in the Cartel of Medellin 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Doesn't work with your title, mate
The only way to truly experience the Montreal's subway is through the smell.
Kinda feels like you could make a 4 picture graph from each country with varying levels of grime.
Except NK, they probably only have the one spotless one.
North Korea has a subway system?
Do you see a subway on that picture?
You can't have failing infrastructure if you don't have infrastructure 👨🏾⚕️
How would it be physically possible to see a whole subway from that one photo
Ngl this is lazy orientalism. You can easily look up whether Pyongyang has a subway system and find photos taken by Westerners of their subway system
Yes, and other forms of transportation available.
That's the point of the image. Even NK figured out train stations. I'm not even sure if that's true, just pointing out what OP meant with the image.
Where are the sandwiches?
Couldn't care less about those countries
nice, but have you ever been in Baden Württemberg?
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I don’t even remember what this comment was but it must’ve been good
Hold tight! That trickle down money is on the next train!
Yes, but... London has great underground network qnd service as well without the dictatorship. France too. Stockholm as well. Sorry, your argument is based on one data point only.
France doesn’t. Paris does.
I'm not even sure you know what my argument is. I haven't articulated a full point so I think there's some filling in the gaps going on. But what I wrote up above (without people reading into it) is factual.
Here's another point for ya; age.
London (it's geographical location)has been a living space and communal hub since 43CE, maybe if we give America a thousand years or so they will also build public transportation.
"The great London underground, established 1043 CE."
No, sadly it was much later than that. It's like saying "shaq can dunk but this stupid fucking infant over there can't even dribble the ball". Yes, great point I am so enlightened.