It's 1990, after an explosion who killed you you're placed in half life. The problem with Jory in the Sanitarium has been solved.

Researchers have found a solution to people with psychic powers eating other people in the same structure.

By working with people from the new id psychic software studio they devised an alternate reality where other patients are transformed into imps and other hellish creatures. Patients are provided with an array of guns to defend themselves from attacks.

Level 2, pick up your shotgun.

You go to another country, you respect their rules.

See nothing wrong with this.

I'm sorry, that must be tough. I hope you can do better.

Linus Torvalds

Not exactly, but something along those lines.

We are talking about a guy still using mailing lists and patch files to conduct development on one of the largest codebases in the world, not exactly someone who jumps on any new shiny thing just to sound smart.

https://thenewstack.io/torvalds-ai-programming-productivity/

You could argue vegetable milk is also contributing to killing the planet. Doing that is clearly pointless.

Is the pollution produced by the production of milk significant, in such a way that reducing it would lead to measurable changes?

Nice chat.

And yes, that's more or less what I'd consider middle class; on the lower end of it.

My life is not so different, except I have a full time job and can not afford to rent a full apartment on my own.

One advice I can give for clothes: get a sewing machine or lend one from a friend. I used to buy large 1€ shirts and pants from road markets and just fit them to my size, don't know about Finland; around here you find quite nice clothes thrown besides trash bins.

I have friends I'd consider poor, even though to be fair around here it's pretty difficult to find someone who is actually poor.

One of them has a campment set up in the woods 20 minutes from the city center. Clothes are readily available in the trash, food is plentiful even without money. He only needs money for wine and tobacco pretty much.

i'm mostly talking about people in the west because we pollute way more than poor countries.

i don't see how it's hypocritical though, we are the ones that really should be making changes in our lives and, of course policy.

People in the west pollute a lot more, but not because they consume a lot more milk. The reason why they pollute much more is widespread consumerism. Reducing the amount of milk consumption is pretty much ininfluential. Of course, don't buy milk just to throw it away.

If you want to do that, fine by me: I appreciate the effort. But don't fool yourself not drinking milk is making any kind of difference; even if that was a practice which became widespread across your whole nation.

i'm very poor

I don't know if you're American. I had people in America telling me they were very poor because they had to rent a full house and couldn't buy one and were forced to cook at home a couple times a week because they did not earn enough to go to restaurant every day. I come from Europe and I'm in no way poor, but while they described me their lifestyle I was thinking they lived the same way as a doctor would in my country.

how long will it take to be at plant milk's level of emissions?

It possibly never have such low emissions as plant based milk production. Regardless, plant production needs nitrogen.

i think the milk production increase depends on the countr

Milk is mostly important in poor countries, since it is a nutritious cheap food.

i know here a huge chunk of people have switched to oat barista milk for coffee

No data here, but I have the impression that coffee production has a greater impact than milk production.

if cheese is the only dairy product you eat

I barely eat any cheese, but I fail to understand how that matters.

yes, reduced dairy consumption is good unless we get the emissions of dairy production in control.

No doubts it's good. I'm asking how good it is and whether it even matters.

even small changes in a variety of things really does add up

Policy changes matter way more than what individuals can do on their own, even if it was the case that people were to get organized and make such changes on mass.

if you combine this with taking the train sometimes where it makes sense

Agreed, but rather than criticizing people for not taking trains it would be better to find a way to make it easier for people to take a train. If you have free public transport which takes you from your house to wherever you need to go you're going to take the train. If the railway is one hour away and the train ride is two hours can you really tell someone not to use their car? I don't have a car because I don't need one, but plenty people do.

The changes you advise on doing are minor nuisances that rich people in rich countries can afford to make. The effect of such changes is minor. I see the good intentions, but this is hypocritical since those same people are the ones who most pollute.

Never really used Reddit, I came here from mastodon. Never used Twitter either.

is this realistic?

Yes, industrial processes are optimized all the time. Sometimes investment is needed: there are nitrogen production factories which were built later and are more efficient than older ones.

we can reduce dairy consumption right now

Yes and no, you can stop consuming dairy on your own; worldwide reduction is quite a different thing to achieve. Not impossible, but definitely not going to happen right now. Milk production has indeed been increasing steadily throughout the years regardless of the higher share of people who became vegan around the world.

I like to eat cheese.

Thus I ask, if I make the effort to not eat cheese and to have other people not eat dairy and this leads to no milk production in the next 15-20 years. Does that actually lead to any measurable difference?

Or maybe I'd better focus on doing other things?

Work on improving the efficiency of the Haber-Bosch process used in the production of nitrogen just 1%.

That will probably have a stronger impact than removing all milk production and private jets from the planet.

There are places in which it is more efficient to optimize since that optimization will lead to a greater benefit.

Is reducing the production of milk potentially one of these important optimizations?

Is milk killing the planet? That's news to me.

The fact that there are more sustainable alternatives to milk is not evidence that milk is unsustainable.

It actually is a great damage to the Italian economy. American parmesan is what in Europe is deemed a counterfeit product and thus banned.

https://cookedbytaste.com/are-parmesan-cheese-fake/

https://www.inc.com/amaya-nichole/the-2-3-billion-cheese-war-why-the-eu-is-trying-to-ban-american-parmesan-around-the-world/91328801

For every bug the AI does not find and I have to spend 1 hour to realize the AI is not able to find and then spend 2 hours to identify myself, there are 10 bugs the AI finds in a couple minutes.

I can gladly spend the extra time when it doesn't work.

This is indeed a valid theory, but not very powerful since it can only explain the color of green plants and not for example the color of non green plants or animals.

More powerful theories have been developed which can work on a much broader range of applications. For example the theory that plants are the color they are because God painted them that way.

I love these kinds of mushroom. I like to cut them in thick slabs and grill them.

I do not mean to insult and I do not want to say that is an ideal situation. By all means I hope you can improve it.

I would not consider that as being poor due to how I interpret what poverty is: you still have money left after you cover for your life expenses.

You live on benefits, thus I imagine you have free time; that is quite a luxury. You have an apartment where you live alone, where I live that's quite uncommon even for people who held a decent job for decades.

Sure: those people are not below the poverty line, yet they can afford less than you do.

But I mean, we're not here in a competition as to who is more wrecked, luckily this is a good life.

I'll stop paying until you provide me with the signed contract. No need to go to court.

It is Latin, it comes from a text by Cicero. However the text is not entirely correct, I guess it accumulated errors along the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum

Just don't switch on the cocktail before throwing it on them. Try not to hit the head. Then it should be mostly ok.

In order for the action to make a strong impression on them, make sure to be smoking a cigarette when you do it.