Alright you got me here. 3 redbulls today, even sugar free, kinda fucked me up.

But importantly I met my arbitrary corporate deadlines! No I won't be recognized for my sacrifice! Why did I do this to myself?

Gingers are Lorax-kin

A Plato ass move

Context: Plato's conception of gods was that they couldn't lie because they were actually necessarily good.and things that were wholly good have no reason to decieve. They don't even shape shift!

In the Republic, Plato says we should rewrite myths so that this truth was pushed and not the slander of poets. Further we should restrict what poets can write in his ideal republic (though this is more of a metaphor for how to live a good life than a literal outline of his ideal republic, its still kinda shitty of him and I'm not really sure if there's a better interpenetration).

I once knew a guy who was overweight and had his face fucked up in an ATV accident who was constantly cheating on his various girlfriends.

Looks really don't matter.

To consider debasement of currency as bad I must first respect the concept of cash capital.

Therefore, Diogenes is based.

I love my cats, but I'd rather my neighborhood have birds.

I'm not living to eat.

I guess that's fair. That's probably our biggest difference since I enjoy the whole cooking process. Tweaking seasonings as the process continues to make something complex and delicious.

But if that was never interesting then I guess it wasn't a big loss.

Do you enjoy eating?

Damn I wish

That was Plato and Socrates's secret

If Plato is accurate then I don't know if he didn't talk out of his ass.

IF you got wide feet, Lems and Zero do pretty good. Lems I know goes to 15, but I'm just a 12

What’s the threshold?

Everyone's different. A Diabetic can have less soda than a non-diabetic. Your body will tell you if you've had too much because you'll feel sick, just like with the steaks. It also depends on caffeinated versus non-caffeinated and regular versus sugar free. It very much is a "listen to your body" situation.

You are inadvertently correct, although I understand that you are being facetious

Yes I'm being facetious. I'm using a logical fallacy called "Reductio ad absurdum" it's what the guy in the video did. The point isn't to be a logical disproof it's to push a logical premise to an extreme example to make the base premise seem absurd. He did a worse job at it since he stopped comparing apples to apples and started comparing apples to genocide, which was crazy. I was still listening at Heroin, but boy did that escalate.

I wanted to stay within the realm of things considered treatment of the self for which the saying applies. People don't eat genocide. We don't do genocide in a way it only affects our selves. That's a completely different philosophical discussion we can have. It would be weird if you want to, but, hell I'm weird too. That said, this was clearly a move done to shock and upset the viewer. a Reductio ad absurdum ad absurdum if you will. It was not an argument against moderation, it was emotional manipulation (I can't be too mad about this, all rhetoric is that his was just tactless).

Why don’t you give this a try? You’ll find that in fact your body knows exactly how many steaks you can eat a day, and you’ll find it impossible to over eat steaks.

It's impossible to over eat steaks? If you're not paying attention to your body or flat ignoring it then yes you can. I've eaten several thousand calories of steak in a single sitting and felt terrible afterwards. I don't do that regularly so it's fine, but that's in moderation.

“Everything in moderation” being a falsehood isn’t the same as “good things should not be done in moderation.”

What do you mean by this? I haven't seen anything that proves or is convincing that EIM is a falsehood and I don't why it wouldn't apply to the second premise there since it hasn't been disproven in the realm of human food.

Anything in excess is bad is almost a fundamental truth for me and this applies to more than just food. So, why shouldn't I be moderate in even good things since there is also no such thing as a completely good thing. There's nothing in this world that we can have in excess that doesn't come with a drawback. Getting an education is good, but you lose time to yourself and your family. Working out is good, but too much and you can permanently injure yourself. Eating steak is good, but eating too many too regularly will make you fat.

Damn that's a pretty good explanation actually

If I enjoy it, yes.

I drink wine and beer in moderation because it tastes good or interesting (I've tried to like hard liquor, but its just not as appealing to me). Its a ritual implement to unwind with. A human art that's been practiced for thousands of years. Its bad for me, we know that, but its enjoyable.

The point of "everything in moderation" is to show that foods we consume for pleasure don't generally cause problems unless consumed regularly or excessively. Obviously when you extend the phrase ad absurdum it will fall apart because its now being applied to absurd things. Hell, it could be applied to healthy things.

A soda a day is not good for you but that's such a low amount of sugar and acid that the body can generally handle it. In fact, ive known a great many hills folk well into their 80's -90's who drink zero sugar mountain dew daily who i can only hope I will be as active as them at that age.

Fifty sodas a day is obviously not good for you because that's more than what the body can adjust for and will probably damage livers and kidneys over time.

I could do the same about carnivore since the reasonable assumption from his attack on moderation is that I should never do things in moderation. So if carnivore is healthy, more carnivore is more healthy. Instead of one steak a day, I should eat two Tomahawk steaks and I can't forget my fat so I drink a gallon of bone broth mixed with 50% beef tallow every day. Surely that's healthy.

Exercise is good for me so why do it in moderation? I should work out as hard as I can every single day until I pass out from exhaustion.

Water is good for me? I should drink 3 gallons as quickly as I can, get water poisoning, and die.

"I'd rather my kids be autistic than dead"

I think this is a completely valid train of thought.

Misguided for sure, but valid.

This man will repair your car in such a way it will both never break and when you do go to a normal mechanic for something they will gaze upon it in awe and horror.

Tylenol and Autism joke

Took me a second

I want to believe we could have a woman president so long as she ran on something other than being a wet noodle that's trying to be #relatable more than just being a good candidate.

Or better yet, running on something more than

"Are you really gonna let Trump win?"

The Last Kingdom did such a good job showing how

1. Mundane medieval warfare was since it really wasn't often grand scaled. Post Roman Europe was mostly small skirmishes with occasionally large scale warfare, but it was few and far between until probably Charlemagne (citation needed. I am NOT a military history guy.)

2. Brutal. There was no even match up. It was either a one sided slaughter or the battle didn't happen.