I will make a request and then post it.

The European Ministry whants to exclude themselves and europeans intelligence agencies (europool) from the surveillance. The Ministry is the only instance that's have talked about excluding.

European Convention on Human Rights Article 8: Right to Respect for Private Life

Everyone has the right to respect for their private and family life, home and correspondence.

UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, Article 16 (English)

"No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honour and reputation."

So they havet changed their mind about chat control? You can't say yes and no at the same time.

Yes this will be brought up again and again but everytime it falls it is a win for us, i think it is important to remebemer that. We need to share information and stand up next time too. it can also become better in the future, Swedish FRA (like USA´s NSA) says e2ee is important and urges people to use it. Netherlands inteligent agency says that chatcontrol harms national security. FBI and CISA urges people to use e2ee after china hacked into lawfull intercept backdoors. All this have happend since last time chatcontrol was on the agenda and this time 2 more countrys has agreed to say no.

FBI and Cisa: Nederlands inteligent agency 1: Nederlands inteligent agency 2: Swedish FRA:

Socialist Democrates whant's to destroy e2ee in sweden to both parties is anti encryption and pro mass surveillance. They are fighting against eachother of "who can introduce most surveillance and police state laws first"

Now i am going to set up unbound. I am sick of DNS blocking...

As I understand it, it's exactly like the online safety bill in the uk. but I'm not that well-read on online safety bill.

Yes, this time... but we won again and i think it is important to remember that. i think this will be brought up again but we need to spread the word when it is happening and stand up again and again when it is happening. We need to win everytime but the politicians only needs one time "democracy" it is called.

Ja precis rätta mig ifall jag har fel men det ända partiet som har konsikvent satt sig emot riktigt pissdåliga tekniklagar är väl V? De var emot datalagringsdirektivet,HDA o ChatControl från start.

It looks like its a andriod port of noisy for linux. Noisy even have the same host list.

https://github.com/1tayH/noisy

I have made a request but i dont have time to read if it okey to share :/ it also takes 15 days to get the documents :/

the regulations of the document

This will result in more aggressive actions from more studios

När chatcontrol vaklar och riskerar att röstas ner så hindrar det inte Sverige för att göra sitt eget chatcontrol. Lustigt att justitiedepartementet kände ett behov av att säga att detta inskränker mänskliga rättigheter medans chatcontrol inte skulle göra det? Detta är så urbotat dumt o kommer inte göra någon skillnad. Signal går att hämta direkt fram github och det har en inbyggd brygga ifall att regeringen blockar. Jag kommer aldrig att sluta använda signal.

Ska skriva till NCSC o se vad de tycker om detta efter att ha uppmanat svenskar till end to end kryptering.

In Sweden basically only have far left and far right that is opposing chat control.

Somsagt är inte ett dugg förvånad, det är inte första gången polisen går ut o varnar om tex signal. För typ 1 år sedan gick det ut o sa att bara kriminella använder appar dom signal.

Skrev ett inlägg till polisen o tacka dom för att jag nu vet om att jag och hela min familj och vänner var kriminella och att det var skönt att veta vilket fack man va i. Svaret blev en ursäkt och att de visa sig att polisen som svara också använde signal.

Till skillnad mot polisen så uppmuntrar jag mina barn till säker kommunikation 😊

Håller fullkomligt med, har vart i tankarna om att gör något liknande 4chan raid som de gjorde mot tumblr. Där massor personer gick ihop och mass kommenterade/shitposta. tänker mig mer som ett komplement till dessa demonstrationerna för de som inte bor i sthlm. det är ju bara dendär lilla grejjen med att få ihop folk i sånna fall :/

Yes know that it is different instances. But encryption becomes more and more an hot topic. And the split between EU, government, Law enforcement authorities and the military is concerning.

We vote on the "big" parties of our country's and the same party that says no to backdoors I'm the government can say yes in EU and vice versa.

So what I really want to say is if we can't agree on what we want's it's going to result in bad and weird laws. We can't say yes and no at the same time.

I hope you get what I mean..

Best I can find is here https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#AdditionalInformation

Looks that way I don't understand how they are thinking. It is pretty obvious that they dont trust thorn or other lobbyists so they know the risks.

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