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"Third-party" in the context of US politics (I think that's where it comes from and is most widely used, owing to its major structural problems that almost inherently create only two major parties federally) is an abstract term referring to any minor political party, not specifically the third-most-popular. There's no such thing as "voting fourth-party", so an nth level of abstraction beyond that becomes absurdist.

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Proton hosts Flock map revealing over 300,000 cameras, defying cease-and-desist threats against creator — privacy-focused company hosts site on Swiss servers

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No.

  • MapQuest pulls its data from OpenStreetMap. If you check out the project DeFlock, you'll see how you can get involved if you want. (Or feel free to ask here.) That data isn't MapQuest's to "not share"; it's contributed by volunteers on OpenStreetMap who are boots on the ground working to document them.
  • Proton is hosting a map using data taken from Flock in a data leak.

These are two separate datasets, where one (OSM) is unofficial, incomplete, and volunteer-made while another is the official data as of November 2025.

There are pros and cons to each, but what Proton is trying to fight is that Flock has sent a cease-and-desist to the person who published the leaked data.

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Sorry, I got the impression that this is what you might've been referring to (or what someone else would've read it as) when you called for merging the two datasets.


Edit: To clarify, I've seen my fair share of people on Wikipedia in my day whose first instinct is that this Wikipedia article would be so much better if they just plagiarized it from somewhere else. I've been traumatized too many times; nothing against you specifically.

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no reason these cant be merged (conceptually)

To be absolutely, 100% clear, do not go to the leaked Flock map and start plopping down cameras in OpenStreetMap where the leak says they are.

OpenStreetMap uses the Open Database License (ODL), which is a very permissive copyright license. Because the people who maintain it want it to be widely usable. The leaked map, on the other hand, is illegally obtained proprietary data. You might think you're helping, but you're in fact polluting the dataset and showing immense disrespect for the people who actually go out and work to survey/use datasets with compatible licenses. If you're wanting to help with ALPRs specifically, I again highly recommend checking out DeFlock which heavily streamlines this.

If you want to look at the leaked data to decide on places to survey (either in-person or via compatible street-level imagery like on Mapillary) and use that survey as your source, that's your prerogative. It's also easy to simply note down ALPRs you see in your day-to-day-life and see if they're already present on the map.

Otherwise, though, please don't bother. It's about as respectful (maybe even less so) as making a documentation PR to an open-source project where all you did is run it through an AI for a rewrite. If we wanted that, we would simply have done it ourselves already.

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"We copied a summary of the article instead of the full text" - hostile UI design blocking quoting of an article I am trying to share with others

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Dragging and copying is also working for me on Firefox for Android. E.g.:

Three Boeing employees familiar with the situation told Reuters that 777F production had not resumed by October 23 despite Boeing and Florida-based supplier Vaero reaching a settlement in late September.

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Some additional 777Fs could still be handed over before the end of 2026 because their wings were assembled before the supplier dispute, according to employees cited by Reuters.


Edit: And a courtesy link to the original Reuters article.

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MapQuest now showing surveillance camera locations across Canada, U.S.

Sorry if this becomes spammy, but as a reasonably long-time user of and contributor to OpenStreetMap (whose data MapQuest uses), when I see threads like these, I try to offer support to anyone who's interested in/already using/contributing to OpenStreetMap.

If you have any questions whatsoever about things like getting started, how to survey efficiently, what kinds of details you can map, problems you've been having, etc., even if you think they're really dumb, please feel free to ask. At worst, I can try pointing you to a relevant article on the official wiki, and at best, maybe we'll both learn something.

I wouldn't be asking if I didn't believe every single well-meaning contribution is valuable and that yours would be no different.