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Earlier last month, Belgian authorities arrested Biwei Zhang, a Canadian intern of Chinese origin working at NATO’s military headquarters in Mons, Belgium, on suspicion of espionage. Prosecutors say she is suspected of spying on behalf of a third country—identified by Reuters as China—and of belonging to a criminal organization. Before her posting to NATO, Zhang had worked across the Canadian federal government, including stints at the National Research Council, Statistics Canada, Employment and Social Development Canada, and the Canadian Space Agency. She even cleared a CSIS and RCMP background check, despite a 2023 finding that she had committed fraud.
The Hub’s managing editor Harrison Lowman spoke to Richard Fadden, former CSIS director and one-time national security advisor to the prime minister, to discuss how Zhang slipped through Canada’s vetting system, the brazenness of China’s espionage efforts, and whether Ottawa’s national security posture (including its new foreign influence registry) is keeping pace.
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Richard Fadden: ... In the West, unless we want to turn into something like what was pictured in Orwell’s 1984, we’re going to get caught every now and then.
…So my main reaction, to be honest, is I was not surprised.
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I think one of the messages we have to take from this young woman’s arrest is that yes, it’s unfortunate. We have to figure out when wrong. It’s going to happen again, and what we have to do is close as many doors and windows as we can, and chug along with our allies and hope that we don’t let any really significant espionage take place.
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I think what they [Chinese spies] are telling us is that they are very practised in the skill of schizophrenia.
If you look at Chinese political pronouncements, they are as pure as the driven snow. They advocate for the UN Charter for peace. On the other side of their personality, they have the one of the most advanced, if not the most advanced, security and intelligence offensive apparatus on the planet.
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On things like their [China's] national interest and security, they have an entirely different mindset. They have almost unlimited resources, unlimited access to technology and people, and no legal and constitutional restraint. They trawl for people, for technology, that might help them and just keep at it. In a way that will drive wedges in the West, that will periodically bring them intellectual property or intelligence that they find useful.
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Prime Minister Carney said he wanted a “strategic relationship” with China. I think they were ill-chosen words. A strategic relationship means more than trade. I understand we have to diversify trade. It’s important. By all accounts, he’s doing a pretty good job at that. But to think that we can have a strategic relationship with China, given what I call their schizophrenia, I think is rather optimistic.
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I think we need to be schizophrenic too ... we need to acknowledge even more than we have that they [China] are not our friends geopolitically, and we have to build defences against them.
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Every now and then the government should come out and say, “Look, guys, enough.” I think occasionally we should try and do this a little bit more than we have. I think Mr. Trudeau’s government was mostly on social policy. Mr. Carney seems to be mostly on economic policy. But I think we elect governments to cover the waterfront: social, economic, national security, and operational policy. I don’t think they have found the right balance.
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Why can’t Canada, like virtually every other country in the West, have a foreign, a defence, and a national security policy? I think it’s sending a message both to the Canadian public and possibly to the planet, that we’re not quite as serious about these things as we could be.
And I don’t mean a 600-page royal commission-like report. I just mean an articulation of our broad objectives—acknowledging that yes, there’s some real positive things in the world, but there’s some really negative things in the world. And we don’t do that. If we could do the equivalent of the prime minister’s Davos speech around national security policy I think it would be a good thing.
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I think [Canada's newly introduced foreign influence registry] is a useful tool. Is it going to solve the problems? Absolutely not.
I think it’s very useful for example, if a former minister or official is being paid to work for another country. I think that’s a good thing for us to know. Because there are a lot of them around, and people don’t really acknowledge it. And if people try and get around it, we should fine them significantly.
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