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discussion question: what's your favourite use of a leitmotif in undertale/deltarune?

it's not an easy question for me!

i'll highlight two from undertale: first, it's pretty cool how waterfall is kind of a "leitmotif bridge" between ruins and another medium / core. too bad snowy isn't connected in the same way

more notably: the way don't give up uses the variation of the ruins leitmotif from an ending / undyne's neutral death theme is pretty amazing. with pretty much the exact same melody and rhythm, it manages to go from depressing and emotional to inspiring... and emotional.

for deltarune, i'll highlight two from chapter 1 and one from chapter 2. i like how field of hopes and dreams, as the very first "proper" area theme, heavily emphasizes the don't forget leitmotif, using it in a cheerful, upbeat way.

as for one of the very last songs in chapter one, the way chaos king just blasts you with the legend section C in a refreshing burst of determination and hope that contrasts nicely with the rest of the theme... yeah even in chapter 1, despite lacking the various improvements of chapter 2, toby fox absolutely nailed it with everything music-wise.

and as for chapter 2, the way berdly's theme is incorporated into attack of the killer queen is both surprisingly subtle (especially since it actually takes up more of the song than queen's own leitmotif(!)) and, just, pleasant to listen to. in particular, i love the way they changed around the rhythm for section B of berdly's theme.

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what are your favourite songs from the new chapters?

raise up your bat is naturally the highlight of the chapter 3 soundtrack for me. the melody is great, both sets of lyrics are great, the lost girl leitmotif is incorporated beautifully as the chorus of the entire thing, oh and for some reason there's quite a few parts that sound like megalovania and justice from undertale yellow. one of the rare lyrical pieces in deltarune so far, and toby knocked it out of the park (though was anyone expecting otherwise?)

chapter 4 has an even stronger soundtrack in my opinion, with several top-tier songs, but i'd like to highlight the third sanctuary and its ridiculous yet fluid time signatures. the song as a whole has a really driving energy to it, and that 23/8 part. truly the peak of the song. there's like at least three different ways to feel the rhythm in that section and i can switch between all three of them on the fly. the part at 1:47 is also quite fun to follow along with. i like to count it as 12/8, 11/8, 10/8, 12/8, 11/8, 11/8, 11/8, 12/8. has a really nice push and pull feel to it.

to highlight some less popular songs: paradise, paradise has a nice melody, especially at 1:22. as does old wooden rafters, which is seriously low on views considering how good it is. and ever higher is just cheerful and fun, especially the section starting at 1:05.

can we also talk about how masterfully guardian uses leitmotifs from from now on? the main dark sanctuary leitmotif appears in a bunch of different forms. first the narrower, darker-sounding version associated with the titans, extended in a 3-3-3-3-2-2 rhythm. then the original, wider version in its original 3-3-2 rhythm, bringing in a big burst of hope for the "chorus" of the song. (also the guitar that introduces that section is so cool!) then at the end of the song, we pair up the wider intervals with the extended rhythm for a determined feel that's not fully hope, but also not fully despair. absolutely insane how the same leitmotif can be manipulated into taking on three very different tones in one cohesive song.

but that's not even the leitmotif that i find the coolest here. a motif more unique to from now on is transformed into something much different-sounding in guardian. these are the only two tracks i could identify this motif in, and it's kind of hard to even realize they're the same motif at first because the rhythm is quite different, and the two just don't sound anything alike in the context of their respective songs. truly an amazing final boss theme to end off the gameplay of the new chapters.

...man that's a lot of stuff i wrote. can you tell i like the new songs a lot? say what you will about toby TAKING TOO LONG, the final result is worth it!

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happy 10th anniversary, undertale! toby's new newsletter

i've never actually played undertale! but i've been in the fandom for a very long time -- watching let's plays, seeing cool fan content, lurking in various discussion spaces. and of course, playing through deltarune (and undertale yellow). it's probably the most impactful game of my life, and i bet that's even more true for many others in this community.

the newsletter itself has some interesting stuff. in particular toby wearing an asgore shirt in a picture related to chapter 5, and a mike scene with some implications for theory crafting, maybe.

there's probably a lot of cool stuff that people have made for the 10th anniversary. unfortunately i didn't have the skills and time to make anything myself (other than this lemmy post). i've already read through three 10th anniversary fanfics on ao3, all of which were pretty nice. two other fics that i've been following have also been updated, so i'm excited to read those as well.

hoping to see others share their undertale stories as well! or post some cool fan creations, whether from yourself or from someone else! i'll start with 10 years of Frisk by Kittany_the_Fox.

Despite everything, it's still you.
happy birthday!!!

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Join /c/Kirby

don't forget:

wanya apple juice sharp stick boy

purest little chimchila

not-so-purest big scary chimchila

minigame pain feat. ball and motion controls

microtransactions lore (actually, lore in general)

various other things other people could probably elaborate on

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thanks!

you have my permission if you want to use it as the c/kirby icon! though in that case, i would like to create a more polished version (as in, making sure everything is actually symmetrical and stuff). should take no longer than 3 days. feel free to use the current version and/or a more polished version for any c/kirby thing you want!

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got it! :) i'm excited to work on it! hoping i'll be able to put in some other enhancements beyond just small technical adjustments

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if you see this, say hi! what's your favorite undertale / deltarune theory?

hello! not planning to visit here particularly often (i'm much more active on ![email protected]), but i figure i'll check back here from time to time. here and also ![email protected].

i would like to participate in discussion questions whenever i can, though, so: narrator chara is a classic! has some interesting evidence, but more importantly i think it a. makes chara's character more interesting and b. makes the narration another "meta-infused" element of the game, in line with other stuff such as the save system.

i'm sure there are various other theories that i'm a big fan of, but this is the only one that comes to mind right now so yeah

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discussion question: what's your favourite kirby song title? [#kirby](https://kbin.social/tag/kirby)

in my opinion:

titles that are just awesome: Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit, The Star Conquering Traveler, The Raging Lion Roars, The World to Win, Faded Dream of a Psychomeddler, Settling a Score ~ Atone for One's Misdeeds!, Supreme Ruler's Coronation - OVERLORD, A Full-Speed Farewell from the New World, probably a whole bunch more but i'm gonna end there

titles that inherit their awesomeness from something else: The Wastes Where Life Began, "Mistilteinn, Tree Crown without a Ruler"

titles that are nice in some other way: From Those Who Departed for Space, I'm a Hungry Pink Puffball!, Soaring Determination: No Night is Eternal

titles that i pay more attention to than the song they come from: Please Don't Inhale the Cinema Patrons

a nice title for a not-so-pleasant song: Eternal Echo of the Thrilling Tour-our-our

unofficial titles that i prefer over the official ones: Moonstruck Blossom [official: Fatal Blooms in Moonlight], Looming Darkness [Another Dimension], Fly! Kirby of the Stars [Fly, Kirby!], Swole Dedede Scuffle [Macho of Dedede]

unofficial title where although the official one is cooler, i'm way more used to the unofficial one: Under My Control [Welcome Your New Overlord]